Investing $50K in you or a dream RW?

[steveboy]

 8)As I said before the Brits are known to be penny pinchers/misers  "greedy" as some Russian women would say

[Ade]

8)As I said before the Brits are known to be penny pinchers/misers  "greedy" as some Russian women would say

I'm a Brit. I didn't stay in 5 star hotels. A few 4* for a few weeks I'll admit to. I didn't use any MOB sites. And my wife spent most of the months we had getting to know each other here in Norway. I can say I spent a hell of a lot more than a couple of thousand.


Anyone that's going to take enough time to develop an international relationship with someone residing in a country other than their own will manage to clock up more than a grand in expenses no matter what. Add to that the immigration and relocation costs and even at the cheapest, I just don't see that someone could do it for less than $5K (and I'd be amazed at 5K if done properly). Even a one week wonder will end up spending that kind of money eventually. Sure, it's not $50K and I think that amount is probably unnecessary for most (unless you factor in a new car and house and/or remodeling), but it's a far cry from your silly figure of $1K


I think, at best, you don't know what you are talking about, although it's starting to look like you're just lying to drum up business.

[Noch1]

If hes trying to drum up business, he is doing it wrong.
Anyone that cheap won't want to pay anyone for nothing.
Would also help take it over a 1000

Sikky is being polite.

[steveboy]

Drum up business?? I have said about 1 million times my site is TOTALLY FREE for any guys from this forum FREE FREE FREE
I have plenty of business already and no need to spend time here just for a few extra sign ups!

Im here because I find it interesting reading.
I think I need to ask my friend to register here as well to back me up on this, maybe along with him we will send our total costs to the admin of the site to verify Im not talking bullshit:)
I just recently travelled from St petersburg , through Russia, Belarus, a grande tour of Ukraine , into Moldova and then into Transnistria. Myself, my other half and two kids  $120.00. Ok by bus and 32 hours:)
Eastern Europe is a pretty cheap place to hang about in:)
$1000 is for a flying trip to Moscow. $5000 is more than enough for any Europeans to do the whole thing.

Maybe I should start a site   Brides-on-a-budget.com

[steveboy]

I've not helped anyone with registration for awhile but didn't know that there were places along the street to register other than the post office.

Okay, did a little checking and here is a state approved list of police "approved" locations for registration in the city of Moscow: http://www.visahouse.com/moscow-militia-departments.asp

And post office locations: http://www.visahouse.com/moscow-post.asp

Actually the requirements for registration of foreigners change like the wind in Russia, sometimes you need to register within three business days of arriving in Russia, so if your in town for a long weekend there is no need for any registration. I think  last year sometime it was seven business days giving you a week in Russia without the need to register. It is always best to check just before you arrive.
You could save yourself $15.00

[steveboy]

Steve, I'll agree that there are reasonable hotels for less than $100 nightly, some very decent and I've put folks up at that complex. I like the Hotel Vega (a Best Western flag) best. In past years I've done my visa registrations there by paying $35-50 for one night in a "Russian standard" room in order to get the registration filed. At that price you reserve the one night to get the registration, it takes about 10 minutes, and then go stay in an apartment you've rented.

However, it isn't just 3 Metro stops from Red Square: it is 5 or 6 depending on which station you use to exit the Metro. Starting at Metro station Partizanskaya where the hotels are located, one would be on the blue ARBATSKO-POKROVSKAYA line.

Now if you'll go this interactive Metro map link and click on on Partizanskaya and then click on Revolution Square station which is the easiest: total time is 13 minutes, 5 stops after boarding Partizanskaya.

Metro station Revolution Square is one of the most unique stations and a "must see" when in Moscow.

Many years ago I used to use this site on a regular basis for hotels in Russia, probably one of the best on the net for deals in Eastern Europe, pretty easy to find a good hotel for under $100 a night. Even better is to call the hotel your thinking of using direct, you can usually get a better price.

www.select-a-room.com/hotels/russia/moscow

[Shadow]

8)As I said before the Brits are known to be penny pinchers/misers  "greedy" as some Russian women would say

Only the Scots come close to the Dutch in being 'greedy' 

[Faux Pas]

Drum up business?? I have said about 1 million times my site is TOTALLY FREE for any guys from this forum FREE FREE FREE
I have plenty of business already and no need to spend time here just for a few extra sign ups!

Im here because I find it interesting reading.
I think I need to ask my friend to register here as well to back me up on this, maybe along with him we will send our total costs to the admin of the site to verify Im not talking bullshit:)
I just recently travelled from St petersburg , through Russia, Belarus, a grande tour of Ukraine , into Moldova and then into Transnistria. Myself, my other half and two kids  $120.00. Ok by bus and 32 hours:)
Eastern Europe is a pretty cheap place to hang about in:)
$1000 is for a flying trip to Moscow. $5000 is more than enough for any Europeans to do the whole thing.

Maybe I should start a site   Brides-on-a-budget.com

Yeah maybe you should. Brides-for-the-cheap bastard.com. Despite numerous tries from well meaning people you are still missing the point. It's not about making a trip to Russia as cheaply as you can and "sticking it to the man". It's about traveling to meet women, optimizing on that travel and remaining as much as possible in one's comfort zone.

That said, I "can" get a flight right now to Moscow for a little over $1000. Counting my $240 expense for the visa, I am all in at $1250 and have not set foot on the ground yet. That's a good deal actually because I bought a flight 2 months ago for a little over $1200. I "can" take my back pack and 2 extra pairs of underwear, some canned fish and crackers and my goatskin water pouch and take off for the long walk to Moscow when leaving the airport. I'll meet all kinds of lovely ladies along the way. At night I'll simply sleep in the metro or under one of the many bridges. I'm not going to waste any money on food because I bought plenty of sardines and crackers from Walmart before I left America. Besides, I can't afford any food. I'm already over the mythical budget of $1000. When I find one of these wimmins I can take them to my stoop down in the metro and share some sardines and crackers. If that don't get her hot and juicy, nothing will, huh? Should I propose right there or should I wait until my next trip?

Hey, this gives me another idea for you a website. How about HotRussianBabes-thats-hot-for-sardinedbreath_stinky-assed-cheapbrideHunters.com?

No wait, I know, I know. I'll do what you did. I'll get a myself a sign in Cyrillic "Cheap greedy Wife hunter, will provide sex for room and board" Man, why didn't I think of this 8 years ago. Think of the money I could have saved

[lordtiberius]

If you want to be comfortable in Ukraine, you will spend well over $ 5K per trip.  Stay at the Hotel Kreshchatik (dump) $ 140 a night, employ a terp for $ 80 a day, eat at the expat restaurants $ 40 a meal, and go to the clubs at the Pinchuk art centre $ 200 a night.  Whatevs.

Steve's point is that you can make it work but you have to be willing to pay for it in ways not using money - your comfort and time.  He has an alternative POV from the RWD herd and he backs it up with facts and all the sudden he's cupid's Bernie Maddoff.  Get real

[Faux Pas]

If you want to be comfortable in Ukraine, you will spend well over $ 5K per trip.  Stay at the Hotel Kreshchatik (dump) $ 140 a night, employ a terp for $ 80 a day, eat at the expat restaurants $ 40 a meal, and go to the clubs at the Pinchuk art centre $ 200 a night.  Whatevs.

Steve's point is that you can make it work but you have to be willing to pay for it in ways not using money - your comfort and time.  He has an alternative POV from the RWD herd and he backs it up with facts and all the sudden he's cupid's Bernie Maddoff.  Get real

Follow that "sage" advice if you want. It's not necessary to spend 5K either. You can be very stupid spending either. Penny wise and pound foolish, isn't recommended. Value, comfort and enjoyment also has a price. Remember, perception is often reality. If you're going to be a complete cheap bastard as you attempt to woo a FSUW, she'll recognize the likely life she'd live with you.

[steveboy]

Yeah maybe you should. Brides-for-the-cheap bastard.com. Despite numerous tries from well meaning people you are still missing the point. It's not about making a trip to Russia as cheaply as you can and "sticking it to the man". It's about traveling to meet women, optimizing on that travel and remaining as much as possible in one's comfort zone.

That said, I "can" get a flight right now to Moscow for a little over $1000. Counting my $240 expense for the visa, I am all in at $1250 and have not set foot on the ground yet. That's a good deal actually because I bought a flight 2 months ago for a little over $1200. I "can" take my back pack and 2 extra pairs of underwear, some canned fish and crackers and my goatskin water pouch and take off for the long walk to Moscow when leaving the airport. I'll meet all kinds of lovely ladies along the way. At night I'll simply sleep in the metro or under one of the many bridges. I'm not going to waste any money on food because I bought plenty of sardines and crackers from Walmart before I left America. Besides, I can't afford any food. I'm already over the mythical budget of $1000. When I find one of these wimmins I can take them to my stoop down in the metro and share some sardines and crackers. If that don't get her hot and juicy, nothing will, huh? Should I propose right there or should I wait until my next trip?

Hey, this gives me another idea for you a website. How about HotRussianBabes-thats-hot-for-sardinedbreath_stinky-assed-cheapbrideHunters.com?

No wait, I know, I know. I'll do what you did. I'll get a myself a sign in Cyrillic "Cheap greedy Wife hunter, will provide sex for room and board" Man, why didn't I think of this 8 years ago. Think of the money I could have saved

Nice!!!! I didn't think anyone here had a sense of humour:) Well don't forget to take the doggy bag to the restaurant its common in the  US .
Im just pointing out you don't have to spend a fortune and surely its better to do more trips on an economy than one or two expensive trips in a year:) I have done it myself) now I will spend the $50k I saved enjoying myself with the women who deserves it

[lordtiberius]

Follow that "sage" advice if you want. It's not necessary to spend 5K either. You can be very stupid spending either. Penny wise and pound foolish, isn't recommended. Value, comfort and enjoyment also has a price. Remember, perception is often reality. If you're going to be a complete cheap bastard as you attempt to woo a FSUW, she'll recognize the likely life she'd live with you.

That is not the point.  The point is that having no money is no excuse - oh and btw, you don't have to go to the FSU to marry a nice girl or a nice girl who happens to be a foreigner.  Men have all sorts of excuses to go for it or chicken out.  Do or do not  . . . really

[steveboy]

Follow that "sage" advice if you want. It's not necessary to spend 5K either. You can be very stupid spending either. Penny wise and pound foolish, isn't recommended. Value, comfort and enjoyment also has a price. Remember, perception is often reality. If you're going to be a complete cheap bastard as you attempt to woo a FSUW, she'll recognize the likely life she'd live with you.

Its not always about money for FSUW a good man is worth a million dollars. A good man with whom a women really clicks with is worth more than a comfortable life style and more than living with a man JUST for a comfortable life style.
And its better to be with a women who is with you for your heart , than your wallet.
If your staying at a 3 star hotel and she shoves her nose up in the air, you have your answer.
When I was having fun a few years back one of my Russian friends who lives in a slightly rough area of ST Petersburg always invited me to some low down bar with who ever I was with at the time. As he said about Russian women if they are not willing to come along with you for a drink they are not worth sh***.

[Faux Pas]

That is not the point.  The point is that having no money is no excuse - oh and btw, you don't have to go to the FSU to marry a nice girl or a nice girl who happens to be a foreigner.  Men have all sorts of excuses to go for it or chicken out.  Do or do not  . . . really

That is "a" point. It does take some expendable cash for a WM to date an FSUW. Whether he be flashy or frugal, it can't be done without it, in some form. How much he spends is directly related to him. To encourage newbies that it can be done on the cheap below $1k is not only wrong, it's stupid. IMHO, one week wonders shouldn't be encouraged either thus making multiple trips a necessity. It doesn't matter if he chooses a roach motel, The Grand in Moscow or a flea bitten dump for an apartment. Whatever he chooses is directly related to the type of individual he his. She'll know that

[Faux Pas]

Its not always about money for FSUW a good man is worth a million dollars. A good man with whom a women really clicks with is worth more than a comfortable life style and more than living with a man JUST for a comfortable life style.
And its better to be with a women who is with you for your heart , than your wallet.
If your staying at a 3 star hotel and she shoves her nose up in the air, you have your answer.
When I was having fun a few years back one of my Russian friends who lives in a slightly rough area of ST Petersburg always invited me to some low down bar with who ever I was with at the time. As he said about Russian women if they are not willing to come along with you for a drink they are not worth sh***.

I don't necessarily disagree with most of this. The lifestyle is important. Don't think it isn't. A RW can be poor all by herself 

[steveboy]

That is "a" point. It does take some expendable cash for a WM to date an FSUW. Whether he be flashy or frugal, it can't be done without it, in some form. How much he spends is directly related to him. To encourage newbies that it can be done on the cheap below $1k is not only wrong, it's stupid. IMHO, one week wonders shouldn't be encouraged either thus making multiple trips a necessity. It doesn't matter if he chooses a roach motel, The Grand in Moscow or a flea bitten dump for an apartment. Whatever he chooses is directly related to the type of individual he his. She'll know that

That is wrong! I was very frugal when I met my other half! That does not mean what type of individual I am. I live very very comfortable in Russia, and going to treat her to a nice cadillac next year

The bottom line is "You can pick up a Russian beauty " on the cheap anything is possible! Its Russia.

[lordtiberius]

That is "a" point. It does take some expendable cash for a WM to date an FSUW. Whether he be flashy or frugal, it can't be done without it, in some form. How much he spends is directly related to him. To encourage newbies that it can be done on the cheap below $1k is not only wrong, it's stupid. IMHO, one week wonders shouldn't be encouraged either thus making multiple trips a necessity. It doesn't matter if he chooses a roach motel, The Grand in Moscow or a flea bitten dump for an apartment. Whatever he chooses is directly related to the type of individual he his. She'll know that

I see your point but on the first read, I didn't get that and if that is what Steveboy is saying he should clarify.

Nobody likes a cheap skate, but a frugal strategy for at least the first meet is a good decision.  First dates, here or abroad, don't really mean much and it is best to play down expectations.  If the lady is only interested in material possessions and not the suitor, then a frugal posture is a good weed out.  Agree? 

[steveboy]

I see your point but on the first read, I didn't get that and if that is what Steveboy is saying he should clarify.

Nobody likes a cheap skate, but a frugal strategy for at least the first meet is a good decision.  First dates, here or abroad, don't really mean much and it is best to play down expectations.  If the lady is only interested in material possessions and not the suitor, then a frugal posture is a good weed out.  Agree?

The perfect way to weed out a money grabbing S**** 

[Ade]

The perfect way to weed out a money grabbing S**** 

Or, from the other side, a good time to weed out the cheap, greedy man.

Moderation is fine, but you are preaching that playing the bean counting cheap bastard is best. Well, my opinion is that it will get you hooked up, generally, with Ms Desperate more often than not.

[Faux Pas]

I see your point but on the first read, I didn't get that and if that is what Steveboy is saying he should clarify.

Nobody likes a cheap skate, but a frugal strategy for at least the first meet is a good decision.  First dates, here or abroad, don't really mean much and it is best to play down expectations.  If the lady is only interested in material possessions and not the suitor, then a frugal posture is a good weed out.  Agree?

No, I don't agree really. If she is a money grubbing materialistic snob, you'll find out soon enough. Be who you are and don't project to be something or someone you are not. Doing so is a deception, is it not?

[steveboy]

I guess a mix of everything really, but one thing for 100% I have learnt, is never ever flash the cash about on a first date in fact do not mention anything to do with salary, cash , finances just keep well away from the subject. Sorry but I have to mention it! Especially in Ukraine
I have met countless women in Moscow have have paid for the dinner!! Well they have offered and didn't accept a refusal!! So who am I the cheap skate to complain.

[steveboy]

For me I never had no intentions ever of marring a Russian women or spending time and money searching for one, and it was just by pure chance I found myself on my Russian trip. I always thought searching for a wife online was for sad gits who couldn't find a women at home!
One of my UK friends was married , his wife seemed to be disappearing to stay will friends fairly often and  discovered she was on some site like Match.com. We made a fake profile on the site and started chatting with her from my office, he was going dam crazy about it! There was two Russian birds on this site who we started to chat to, just for fun in between things . To cut a long story short three weeks later I was in Russia and my friend was at the divorce courts

[Ade]

For me I never had no intentions ever of marring a Russian women or spending time and money searching for one, and it was just by pure chance I found myself on my Russian trip. I always thought searching for a wife online was for sad gits who couldn't find a women at home!

Addendum to the site name then; HotRussianBabes-thats-hot-for-sardinedbreath_stinky-assed-SAD-GIT-cheapbrideHunters.com

[steveboy]

  calm down calm down!!

[lordtiberius]

Addendum to the site name then; HotRussianBabes-thats-hot-for-sardinedbreath_stinky-assed-SAD-GIT-cheapbrideHunters.com

This joke is as funny as the holocaust.  Did you have help with it?