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I would
« on: September 23, 2013, 05:36:29 PM »
is there a subjunctive case in Russian?  How would you say I would go fishing with you or I would want or she would go or they would leave, etc.  Thank you in advance.

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Re: I would
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 06:51:31 PM »
is there a subjunctive case in Russian?
There isn't and cannot be, because the subjunctive is a verbal mood while case pertains to the declension of nouns, pronouns, adjectives, etc. ;)   
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How would you say I would go fishing with you or I would want or she would go or they would leave, etc.
Your examples are in the conditional, not subjunctive, mood.

See http://web.cn.edu/kwheeler/grammar_subjunctive.html.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2013, 11:09:11 AM by SANDRO43 »
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Re: I would
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 10:09:30 AM »
is there a subjunctive case in Russian?  How would you say I would go fishing with you or I would want or she would go or they would leave, etc.  Thank you in advance.
You should use the particle "бы" and put the verb in past tense form:
I would go fishing with you - Я бы пошел с тобой на рыбалку
I would want - Я бы хотел
she would go - Она бы пошла
they would leave - Они бы уехали
- А если я скажу какую-нибудь глупость?
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Re: I would
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 12:05:49 PM »
You should use the particle "бы" and put the verb in past tense form:
I would go fishing with you - Я бы пошел с тобой на рыбалку
I would want - Я бы хотел
she would go - Она бы пошла
they would leave - Они бы уехали

Thank you so much.  When would I use яб?

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Re: I would
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 02:11:07 PM »
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I would want - Я бы хотел

Thanks for posting die-cast. I would suggest that this one be closer to "I would like..."

Kindly correct me if wrong.
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Re: I would
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 02:37:51 PM »
LT, impressive. I congratulate your advances in learning!

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When would I use яб?

Separate the ya and beh as: я б = "I'd or I would"

я б никогда or Я б не.

I have found this link to be useful: http://masterrussian.com/vocabulary/bi_would.htm

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Re: I would
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 06:28:58 AM »
Thank you.  I am trying to learn the declensions and move away from leaning so much on Russian-English cognates and integrating more Slavic words into my conversation.  Some prominent posters on this board have told me publicly and privately that Russian is a worthless language.  If one can use Pig Latin to make a point, on the value of the Russian language and in so many other areas of varying importance I must disagree

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Re: I would
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2013, 09:20:21 AM »
It is a beautiful language. When in town I sing in a choir and we often use the old Church Slavonic which is a real challenge but so beautiful.

The lack of definite or indefinite articles in the Russian language can to the new learn make the language seem basic or underdeveloped. In reality once learned it is a very beautiful language, complex enough to frighten off the lazy, and worth learning.
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Re: I would
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2013, 09:44:45 AM »
Thank you.  I am trying to learn the declensions and move away from leaning so much on Russian-English cognates and integrating more Slavic words into my conversation.  Some prominent posters on this board have told me publicly and privately that Russian is a worthless language.  If one can use Pig Latin to make a point, on the value of the Russian language and in so many other areas of varying importance I must disagree


Of course the primary importance is that one's fiancee learn the language of the country to which she'll immigrate. 


Learning her language is a very worthwhile endeavor for a variety of reasons.  Necessary? No.  Enriching? Absolutely, but, as I'm sure you've already realized, it is somewhat time consuming. 
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Re: I would
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2013, 10:48:43 AM »
One told me privately and one posted on this forum that it is a worthless language.  And they used that word to describe the utility of the language.

It is a beautiful language.

Pig Latin?  Are you serious?  I disagree.

When in town I sing in a choir and we often use the old Church Slavonic which is a real challenge but so beautiful.

You got pipes?   :clapping:


The lack of definite or indefinite articles in the Russian language can to the new learn make the language seem basic or underdeveloped.

400 million Slavic people - Russian gives me an understanding of how their language works.  It is cool.  The lack of definite and indefinite article is a learning curve or non-Slavs but the declension makes up for that (if you can learn it).

In reality once learned it is a very beautiful language, complex enough to frighten off the lazy, and worth learning. 

If you want to intimidate people of any race, speak Russian into your cellphone.  It doesn't have to be on.
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Re: I would
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 10:49:49 AM »
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Re: I would
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2013, 10:54:25 AM »
When in town I sing in a choir and we often use the old Church Slavonic which is a real challenge but so beautiful.
Ah, a fellow chorister :D. Can you post some examples of your choir's repertoire?
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Re: I would
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2013, 11:19:40 AM »
Both Russian and English are pretty much useless for the French and German.
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Re: I would
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2013, 11:23:42 AM »
English are pretty much useless for the French and German.

Both the French and the Germans teach English at their primary schools and is a de facto second language in many businesses.  Same is true for most of Western Europe

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Re: I would
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2013, 12:50:51 PM »
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Can you post some examples of your choir's repertoire?

Have you no respect for dogs and other animals with high frequency screeching sensitivity?!  ;D

I sing a specialized part but stand with the base/baritone section. My specialty is monotone.

We get many requests...but we usually go ahead and sing anyway.


Link: http://archive.org/details/Veruyucredo-SlavonicOrthodoxLiturgy
(This is not our choir but a sampling of what we perform, and most unfortunately not how we perform.)
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Re: I would
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2013, 05:31:28 PM »
I sing a specialized part but stand with the base/baritone section. My specialty is monotone.
So you sing just 1 note during the whole performance :o? A very demanding part ;D.

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(This is not our choir but a sampling of what we perform, and most unfortunately not how we perform.)
Beautiful chant, although I think the polyphonic part may have been a later addition to the almost monotone contralto recitativo - the officiating pope's liturgical recitation of Credo?
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Re: I would
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2013, 06:55:36 PM »
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So you sing just 1 note during the whole performance :o? A very demanding part ;D.

But it is a very important note! Once about every 16 measures it is the right one!  8)

Naturally the other times one can think of it as what anti-harmonization is to anti-pasta.
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Re: I would
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2013, 02:05:08 AM »
Both the French and the Germans teach English at their primary schools and is a de facto second language in many businesses.  Same is true for most of Western Europe
But not the ugly American dialect...
apart from that, how many things you learned in school that were actually useless ?
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Re: I would
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2013, 04:57:02 AM »




  It is cool.  The lack of definite and indefinite article is a learning curve for non-Slavs but the declension makes up for that (if you can learn it).



Trust me the presence of definite/indefinite article is much worse learning curve for Slavs ....I am still getting caught in which one to use...
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