How many chinchilla coats does a RW need?

[Wayne]

Why trim a chinchilla coat with mink?

Is Russian sable better than lynx?

What about marten, seal or others?

Would you wear fun in American?

What about animal rights?

[Shadow]

Why trim a chinchilla coat with mink?

Is Russian sable better than lynx?

What about marten, seal or others?

Would you wear fun in American?

What about animal rights?

1. Because it gives a nice look.
2. It is Russian. Of course it is better.
3. Depends on how much you want to spend, all flavours are possible.
4. To wear only fun one might get arrested.... as for fur depending on the area.
5. They have the right to remain silent. Also they have the right to be feeded and kept in a stress-free environment so they develop a beautiful fur. Then they have the right to extend their short lifetime by being processed in to a beautiful and useful garment.

[Wayne]

I agree with your answer, but I also think, from touching it, that chinchilla is very soft, with extreme number of very fine hairs. It is not very durable, so the mink is used for the collar and sleeve ends that receive the most wear.
 
Red sable from Russia is used to make the very best water color paint brushes. You can pay $50 or more for a good quality brush.
 
We have way too many beavers around here because no one traps them anymore.

[Shadow]

We have way too many beavers around here because no one traps them anymore.

And still they want to bring them over from Russia....

[ML]

We have way too many beavers around here because no one traps them anymore.

The correct terminology is not 'trap a beaver' but rather 'bag a beaver.'

[ML]

[Boethius]

I don't object to fur coats, but I am not interested in wearing dead rodents. 


Sable is the best fur because it doesn't have a "grain".  It lasts a long time, and is soft to touch no matter the direction the fur is rubbed.  It is also light.

[Wayne]

What about skunk fur?

[tfcrew]

The correct terminology is not 'trap a beaver' but rather 'bag a beaver.'

I thought that was the idea...imported beaver from Russia.

[GQBlues]

...We have way too many beavers around here because no one traps them anymore.

The correct terminology is not 'trap a beaver' but rather 'bag a beaver.'

Were you guys still talking about fur coats?

[lonedrake]

What about skunk fur?

 Skunk fur is actually high quality fur. It is just the name that makes it less valuable.

[Anotherkiwi]

Skunk fur is actually high quality fur. It is just the name that makes it less valuable.

Then you need to rename the animal to make the end product more palatable, as has been done in so many ways before.

[Shadow]

Then you need to rename the animal to make the end product more palatable, as has been done in so many ways before.

A rose by any other name....

[Wayne]

Nobody answered the question: "How many chinchilla coats does a RW need?"
 
My XRW came to America with three!  I can understand one, or maybe two, but three?
 
After some investigation, Chinchilla does not wear long, so perhaps she wanted to stock up? But women's styles go out of fashion, so I don't see the reason!  Of course, chinchilla might be less costly in Russia?
 
Back in the days when you needed a fur coat to stay warm, beaver was favored. Now, I don't know if Russian beaver is higher prized than American?
 
Now a little side story about skunk: A couple of years ago, raccoons were getting into my garbage can. I tried tying the cover down to the handles with rope, but I looked out one night when I heard a lot of noise and turned the porch light on. There was a very large raccoon who had tipped over the garbage can and was ripping the cover off.
 
So back to the drawing board! I ordered a live trap and baited it with a can of tuna, because raccoons love fish! So the next morning I checked the trap, and WTF a skunk was inside! I had planned to release the raccoon many miles away--but I certainly wasn't going to put this skunk in my car! I read that if you cover the skunk with a tarp, it won't spray; so I did.
 
So the skunk needed to be dead, but how? I considered putting the cage into the lake and drowning it. But how to move the cage down to the lake? Finally, I got the idea to gas it with a long piece of pipe connected to the car exhaust pipe. That accomplished, I buried it in the woods.
 
So I gave up on the live trap idea and built a strong, heavy wooden box with hinged cover and put the garbage can inside. I installed a heavy duty hasp and bought a heavy duty, keyed padlock. I was smart enough not to get a combination lock--because I did not want the coons to discover the combination!

[Faux Pas]

Nobody answered the question: "How many chinchilla coats does a RW need?"
 
My XRW came to America with three!  I can understand one, or maybe two, but three?
 
After some investigation, Chinchilla does not wear long, so perhaps she wanted to stock up? But women's styles go out of fashion, so I don't see the reason!  Of course, chinchilla might be less costly in Russia?
 
Back in the days when you needed a fur coat to stay warm, beaver was favored. Now, I don't know if Russian beaver is higher prized than American?

Did they all look alike? If so, she has a problem. If they didn't then you probably have one
 

[Wayne]

Fur prices on the rise in ’13
By Victor Skinner Contributing Writer
Posted on March 14, 2013
Kalamazoo, Mich. — Michigan trappers are seeing a jump in fur prices this year for most species, continuing a trend seen in recent years that’s been fueled by overseas buyers.
Matt Johnson, fur sales director for the Michigan Trappers and Predator Callers Association, said fur prices have steadily increased in recent years, but top pelts from certain species jumped significantly this season
“Some of the raccoons … have done really, really well, but what I think gets people’s attention is the muskrats,” Johnson told Michigan Outdoor News.
Muskrat pelts sold for an average of about $13 per animal at the association’s fur sales around the state this year, a sizeable increase over last year’s average of roughly $10 apiece, he said. Michigan set high prices at its first fur sale in Clare in December – one of the first in the nation – where muskrats sold for over $15 each and some fetched far more, Johnson said.
“That’s crazy good,” he said, adding that muskrat prices have been creeping up in recent years from a more typical average of $5 to $7 per fur.
“Our top muskrat went for over $27,” Johnson said. “I’ve sold a lot of mink for less than that.”
Prices for other species are up, as well, he said, although less dramatically than muskrats.
“We’re seeing across-the-board averages going up,” he said.
The high-dollar sales are generating interest from out-of-state sellers and trappers. The prices also have increased sales volume at the MTPCA events and others – both by encouraging more trappers to get into the woods and by convincing many to sell locally, rather than to ship their pelts to large fur auctions in Canada.
“We’ve had quite a few people from neighboring states join our association so they could sell at our fur sales because prices were just so good,” Johnson said. “We’re probably averaging around 70 or 80 lot numbers, so 70 or 80 trappers in one place on one day.”
The stellar sales are the by-product of increased interest from overseas buyers in China and Russia who send representatives to Michigan auctions because of the state’s high-quality furs, Johnson said.
“We don’t produce the most, but we have a wide variety of everything,” he said. “The Muskegon rivershed raccoon produces some of the best of the best as far as color selection. We also have really good muskrat color and quality.”
Willard Prey, owner of Prey’s Raw Furs in Attica, said, “In the last month there has been a big demand … from Russia” for furs, something he believes is linked in part to the region’s winter weather.
“The cold weather over there seems to really help,” said Prey, who buys furs for brokers overseas. “The colder the weather is in Russia and China, the faster the fur moves.”
Prey believes high prices for Michigan muskrat and other species are following the value of ranch-raised mink, which he said tends to set the bar for fur prices.
“That’s keeping the prices up on the wild mink and muskrat,” he said.
Muskrat prices have steadily increased over the past few seasons, Prey said, but this year’s increases have been far more dramatic than most.
“Five years ago, the muskrats were probably $5 for the very best,” he said. “Ten years ago, a top muskrat was worth $2.50 or even $2.”
Prey said that while prices have been excellent for all species, he’s been particularly impressed by what some raccoons pelts are fetching
The raccoons in the last month or so have just skyrocketed,” he said. “They were going for $8 to $10 for the best … but in the last month they’ve jumped to as much as $30.”
Despite the encouraging market value for Michigan muskrats, Prey said he’s concerned the population may be showing signs that the annual harvest is taking a toll. It’s been obvious in recent years that muskrats are not reproducing as well as they have in the past, he said.
“We’re getting bigger and bigger rats all the time,” Prey said, adding that the muskrats harvested are older on average than they used to be.
“It just seems like the muskrats are not reproducing,” he said.
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[Wayne]

Following a two-year investigation, The Humane Society of the United States is revealing that a New York City business, Unique Product Enterprises, advertised and sold numerous products containing “dog fur” [PDF] in apparent violation of federal law.
The HSUS referred the matter to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which opened its own investigation that resulted in the removal of advertisements for the products from the company’s website. 
The Dog and Cat Protection Act of 2000 bans the import and interstate advertisement and sale of items made from dog or cat fur. Congress passed the law after a previous investigation by The HSUS in the late 1990s documented the sale of dog fur in the United States. Given the shocking nature of the current revelations that dog fur is apparently still being sold in the U.S., The HSUS is requesting that the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York take action to enforce the Dog and Cat Protection Act and ensure that the company does not continue to advertise or sell dog fur.
The HSUS purchased four items—a blanket, a vest, a pair of gloves, and a belt—after receiving a tip from a member of the public about dog fur being advertised for sale. Independent laboratory analysis determined the fur contained in the products was “...consistent with having originated from a domestic dog....”
Much of the domestic dog fur in the world market comes from China, where conditions are brutal—animals beaten, crammed into tiny cages, and even skinned alive,” said Pierre Grzybowski, policy and enforcement manager for The HSUS’s Fur-Free Campaign. “Today’s announcement should serve as a warning to designers, retailers and the public that dog fur is still entering the U.S. market.”
See video footage from our investigation »
The four tested items—and nine others—were advertised on the company’s website in both Russian and English, and several items were also advertised in Russian in a Russian-language magazine based and distributed in the New York City area, and in Russian on YouTube. One product contained a manufacturing label with Chinese characters indicating that the product was made by a company in Western China.
The HSUS expressed its thanks to U.S. Customs and Border Protection for conducting an investigation of the matter and taking action to enforce the federal law prohibiting the sale of dog and cat fur.
The HSUS urges designers, retailers and consumers to avoid all animal fur products.  Faux fur, when honestly labeled, is an acceptable and cruelty-free alternative and the only sure way to enjoy the fashion while still guaranteeing that dogs and cats are not being killed for their fur.
For a copy of the complete investigative report, including photos of the purchased items and online advertisements, please visit www.humanesociety.org/dogfur. Additional photos and b-roll are available upon request.
The Dog and Cat Fur Prohibition Act of 2000
Under federal law (19 USC Sec. 1308):  “It shall be unlawful for any person to – (A) import into, or export from, the United States any dog or cat fur product; or (B) introduce into interstate commerce, manufacture for introduction into interstate commerce, sell, trade, or advertise in interstate commerce, offer to sell, or transport or distribute in interstate commerce in the United States, any dog or cat fur product.” The law provides for penalties that include fines up to $10,000 per violation, and the law establishes a reward of no less than $500 for persons providing information that results in a penalty assessment or other enforcement action.

[tfcrew]

Skunk fur is actually high quality fur. It is just the name that makes it less valuable.

Skunk fur is of medium length, erect, and possesses a sheen. However, protracted use causes it to fade from a glistening black to a dull reddish brown.^[13] Before the mid-20th century, skunk fur was also described and marketed as "Alaska sable".^[15]

wikipedia

[lonedrake]

skunk fur was also described and marketed as "Alaska sable".[15]

 Thank you. I could not remember the name. When they passed a law to properly label fur....the skunk market went to hell.


As a teenager I ran a trapline mostly for muskrats and mink,but also caught red and great fox,raccoon, beavers and one time even a timber wolf.

[Doll]

What's the topic starter's question again?
Where is the "how many" in the OP?
 
What "animal's rights"? Have you ever seen meats at the American stores?

[Faux Pas]

What's the topic starter's question again?
Where is the "how many" in the OP?
 
What "animal's rights"? Have you ever seen meats at the American stores?

How about an honest answer from a RW sweetface? I thought the question was pretty ludicrous to start with.

Wayne, please answer my question to you. Were they all alike or different chinchilla coats?

[Wayne]

They were all different styles, but the same size. As a contrast, her 17 year old daughter had zero.

[Wayne]

As everyone knows, dog is popular food in China. Therefore, dog pelts are a byproduct of the food dog industry in China. So they are just using up something that would be wasted.