Pasternak

[lordtiberius]

I am told that Patsernak is not very well regarded in Russia and that Russian academic should discourage foreigners from considering his ideas when compared to Bulgakov and other writers.  Any truth to this?  Thank you in advance.

[mendeleyev]

"If, in a bad dream, we had seen all of the horrors in store for us after the war,
we should have been sorry not to see Stalin go down together with Hitler;
an end to the war in favour of our allies, civilized countries with democratic traditions,
would have meant a hundred times less suffering for our people than that which
Stalin again inflicted on it after his victory."

As Stalin continues to regain his popularity in Russia, the reputations of men like Pasternak will suffer. You can have heroes on both sides.

History is being rewritten in Russia and you can't have the likes of Pasternak, Oleg Mandelstam, Marina Tsvetaeva, and Bulgakov left with their reputations intact to refute the revisionists. Like Pasternak, Bulgakov never directly attacked Stalin in their writings but both were considered dangerous by Stalin for their ideas.

Pasternak and Bulgakov were both slated to be arrested and executed and Stalin personally intervened on behalf of both but refused to allow their writings to be published. Stalin himself was a poet and he identified with their writing styles more than other contemporary Russian writers of that time.

[lordtiberius]

So who do Stalinists say are the great poets of the period - Gorky?  Stalin betrayed Gorky too did he not?

Those who put down Pasternak do so because he accepted the favors of Stalin, but he did pay a dear price for those favors did he not?

[Muzh]

So who do Stalinists say are the great poets of the period - Gorky?  Stalin betrayed Gorky too did he not?

Those who put down Pasternak do so because he accepted the favors of Stalin, but he did pay a dear price for those favors did he not?

Here, let me help you.
 
bit.ly/1dGWaB3
 
Now, that wasn't that hard, was it?

[lordtiberius]

[Boethius]

Stalin was a bad poet.  IMHO, so were Mandelstam and Pasternak.  Unlike Bulgakov's works, theirs are empty.


Stalin didn't care that much about Bulgakov, who was hooked on drugs, and the state indulged his addiction.

[Ranetka]

Stalin was a bad poet.  IMHO, so were Mandelstam and Pasternak.  Unlike Bulgakov's works, theirs are empty.


Stalin didn't care that much about Bulgakov, who was hooked on drugs, and the state indulged his addiction.

Pasternak had at least one genious........sorry do not have russian here   

na protyazenie mnogih zim ya pomnyu dni solntsevorota....

Found English translation on you tube but can not post

[lordtiberius]

Doctor Zhivago is one of my favorite movies.  David Lean's direction, Omar Shariff's acting, Freddy Young's camera work, Rod Steiger, Julie Christie, Alec Guinness, shot in Spain and Norway, who ever came up with this story is a genius in my humble opinion.

The movie doesn't talk about the creepy party man that was always there helping out.  Yet the man who made this opus magnus was one of those Bulgakov parodied in MASSOLIT in Master and Magarita.

[Boethius]

Pasternak had at least one genious........sorry do not have russian here   

na protyazenie mnogih zim ya pomnyu dni solntsevorota....

Found English translation on you tube but can not post

I know which poem you are referring to.  It is based on Goethe's Unexpected Spring.  I find the original better, but recognize that the appreciation of poetry is subjective, and it is good if it touches you.  Nothing Pasternak wrote ever touched me.  For others, that is not the case.

[Ranetka]

I know which poem you are referring to.  It is based on Goethe's Unexpected Spring.  I find the original better, but recognize that the appreciation of poetry is subjective, and it is good if it touches you.  Nothing Pasternak wrote ever touched me.  For others, that is not the case.

i could never understand why he wrote about soaking wet roads in mid-winter. If it based on a German poemthen it ssuddenly makes sense. The rest of his poetry never touched me eithrer and i  find doctor zhivago. unrunreadable.

[Faux Pas]

i could never understand why he wrote about soaking wet roads in mid-winter. If it based on a German poemthen it ssuddenly makes sense. The rest of his poetry never touched me eithrer and i  find doctor zhivago. unrunreadable.

I never tried to read it but I did try to watch the movie twice with no success 

[lordtiberius]

I saw this movie as a young man.  The musical score itself embodies 'epic!'



This is what a woman should look like.



She is 72 now.

Boris Leonidovich, Bravo!