How about superstitions?

[justme100]

Hello to everyone)
Didn't know in what part exactly I have to start the thread so I thought I try it here, in odds and ends.
Well, I would like to ask all present men what they think on the following.
The notion of man, dying from this or that desease right before the meeting with lady is increasing. All sorts of pretexts are used by keyboard Romeos to hook the girl longer and involve into emotional play without any plans for real meeting. The man my friend was corresponding to died 3 times First, right before he had to come to see her, she was called by him from hospital saying he had cancer and his days were limited and he just wanted to say goodbye. She was shocked. Even more she was shocke in several months when he called her again and told he manged to survive due to miracles of modern medicine. To cut the long story short he died two more times right before the mewting before she sent him to hell)
Men say about heart attacks, broken bones, relatives and pet deaths. My own example was just horrible for me. The man we were communicating called me on the day of his departure from his country to visit me and told me that his sister got into hospital that night and they found cancer.So he can't come to me. I was very sorry for him and tried to calm him down. This all lasted for about half a year, we were in contact, he was devastated, I was consoling.Finally I got a short note from him that she passed away. I took the story so close to heart, I cried all day long when I got to know, I felt sos sorry for him and his family. I can't describe my surprise when in a month I found freshly made comments of his sister on facebook. I followed her profile and there were fresh photos from new year with her perfectly looking and smiling and being full of life.
Well, what makes me curious in all these case, are people in your part of the world are not superstitius about things like this,about deaths and deseases?.In my place people strongly belive if you say something like this can attract death and desease to you and your family in reality.Do you feel free to say somebody of your relatives died just to have a comfortable pretext for this or that?
Just curious and will be glad to have some journey into other mentality.
Thanks in advance.

[The Natural]

Hello. It's awful what happened to you and only a very mentally disturbed individual would do such a thing. Hopefully there aren't too many of those out in the wild.
 

Well, what makes me curious in all these case, are people in your part of the world are not superstitius about things like this,about deaths and deseases?.In my place people strongly belive if you say something like this can attract death and desease to you and your family in reality.Do you feel free to say somebody of your relatives died just to have a comfortable pretext for this or that?
Just curious and will be glad to have some journey into other mentality.
Thanks in advance.

Personally I'm not superstitious about this, but claiming disease and death like you described is first of all lies and secondly it's morally indefensible.

[Muzh]

Hello to everyone)
Didn't know in what part exactly I have to start the thread so I thought I try it here, in odds and ends.
Well, I would like to ask all present men what they think on the following.
The notion of man, dying from this or that desease right before the meeting with lady is increasing. All sorts of pretexts are used by keyboard Romeos to hook the girl longer and involve into emotional play without any plans for real meeting. The man my friend was corresponding to died 3 times First, right before he had to come to see her, she was called by him from hospital saying he had cancer and his days were limited and he just wanted to say goodbye. She was shocked. Even more she was shocke in several months when he called her again and told he manged to survive due to miracles of modern medicine. To cut the long story short he died two more times right before the mewting before she sent him to hell)
Men say about heart attacks, broken bones, relatives and pet deaths. My own example was just horrible for me. The man we were communicating called me on the day of his departure from his country to visit me and told me that his sister got into hospital that night and they found cancer.So he can't come to me. I was very sorry for him and tried to calm him down. This all lasted for about half a year, we were in contact, he was devastated, I was consoling.Finally I got a short note from him that she passed away. I took the story so close to heart, I cried all day long when I got to know, I felt sos sorry for him and his family. I can't describe my surprise when in a month I found freshly made comments of his sister on facebook. I followed her profile and there were fresh photos from new year with her perfectly looking and smiling and being full of life.
Well, what makes me curious in all these case, are people in your part of the world are not superstitius about things like this,about deaths and deseases?.In my place people strongly belive if you say something like this can attract death and desease to you and your family in reality.Do you feel free to say somebody of your relatives died just to have a comfortable pretext for this or that?
Just curious and will be glad to have some journey into other mentality.
Thanks in advance.

Count your blessings dear.
 
At least you have not met them in person only to find out later that they accused you of being a pro-dating scammer of the worse kind.

[flitabout62]

Well, what makes me curious in all these case, are people in your part of the world are not superstitius about things like this,about deaths and deseases?.In my place people strongly belive if you say something like this can attract death and desease to you and your family in reality.Do you feel free to say somebody of your relatives died just to have a comfortable pretext for this or that?

I  just don't have a deep belief in superstition causing bad things to our lives.  Maybe it's my education... or belief that individual actions determine results, not fate.  In fact, I tend to deliberately say things about bad things happening to me that I believe are humorous without fear that they will actually happen.    Of course, to believers in superstition, if I have anything bad happen to me, it was because I caused it through my "reckless" comments. 

By the way... the experiences you have with these men are bad.  They are not trying to be funny, but are being mean.  They are terrible men.   

[ML]

I can't describe my surprise when in a month I found freshly made comments of his sister on facebook. I followed her profile and there were fresh photos from new year with her perfectly looking and smiling and being full of life.

He has two or more sisters . . . not uncommon.

[ML]

This death or serious illness thing is too simplistic.

How about he/she was captured by guerillas (or maybe even gorillas) in country X.

Or maybe due to global warming, is stranded on a bit of ice that broke off from antarctica (but still has sms or email from mobile phone for a bit longer).

Perhaps called back from retirement for emergency service with CIA (anyone watching the series "Assets" on ABC?).

[die_cast]

Well, I would like to ask all present men what they think on the following.

With the same result men can ask decent women what we think about scammers and how we can explaine their behaviour. 

Well, what makes me curious in all these case, are people in your part of the world are not superstitius about things like this,about deaths and deseases?

There is a cultural gap, another mentality. Western people are not that superstitious. We are extremely superstitious in comparison with them. 

[ML]

With the same result men can ask decent women what we think about scammers and how we can explain their behaviour. 

WOW, an objective woman; a member of a rather exclusive club.

I was going to write something similar as an answer to her question . . . but I knew I would be branded a (something) if I did so.     

[mendeleyev]

Justme, I accept your views on scams by men. Unfortunately many Western men are blinded to their own faults and see the scams as directed only at themselves. In general our populations view you as poor and part of the third world, and therefore not worthy of our respect.

I will tell you however that there are exceptions and most, if not all, the men on forums like this are the exception. Most of us view your countries with respect, are intrigued by your life and culture, and we show that interest by marrying persons just like you.

As to superstitions, I haven't really thought about how it impacts scams. My wife is convinced that the end of the world is upon us because our new refrigerator has an ice making machine--in Moscow! Aunt Lyuba chuckles (she is a favourite and I love being around her!) that only an American would want an ice machine in the land of long winters. She has a point but I'll never admit to it.

In regards to the superstition about not sitting on a cold snow or ice covered bench, I'm mid 50s and Mrs M is mid 40s and we have 3 grown daughters so I don't think that sitting on a cold bench is going to change our ability to have children. But you know the babushka brigade, they're going to defend their superstitions to the very end.   

[justme100]

Thanks for the answers) Well, I see you are really not so much superstitious as we are.
In fact I don't regard these cases as scam...it's just dishonesty and unseriousness, nothing more.


ML, he has got only one sister and for sure I knew her name)

By the way... the experiences you have with these men are bad.  They are not trying to be funny, but are being mean.  They are terrible men.   

Those were not my experiences, my was the only one with a man with dead sister)Others were the examples of my friends and people I know.I can count about two dozens of such cases now, so it's not quite rare in fact.

With the same result men can ask decent women what we think about scammers and how we can explaine their behaviour. 

Well,I don't see any correlation as I don't ask why they do this, I know the reasons myself.

[Gator]

Justme100,

I apologize for my fellow Americans who wasted your time and the time of your friends.  I have heard that many men are keyboard Romeos - they enjoy romantic talk on the Internet yet never intended to get on an airplane and meet you.  They may be married or have no money or ....... 

Regarding superstition about getting a disease if faking it - we don't have such.  My RW wife has some superstitions.  Her knowledge of English medical terms is very limited, and she sometimes asks me question about a particular disease she heard of.  If in my explanation  I  touch the same spot on my body, she is shocked.       She cautions me never to do that.

[justme100]

Justme100,
I apologize for my fellow Americans who wasted your time

It was Canadian man in my case)

  They may be married or have no money or ....... 

Yes, I guess these are one of the major reasons.

  If in my explanation  I  touch the same spot on my body, she is shocked.       She cautions me never to do that.

Yes, this is what I meant.That is why I;m really shocked that deseases and deaths of chldren and relatives are  used by men(

[Daveman]

Some here in the southeast, more in rural areas, do have the death/illness superstition - don't speak aloud anything like that, and especially so about family or friends.  However, people they don't like seem to be fair game.

It's difficult to fathom that someone would waste another's time and emotions in such a way.  But they do.  Sorry that happened to you, justme100. 

Words on a screen until you meet and build something off-line.