How Important is Height to Eastern European Women?

[Maverick47]

I'm a short guy (barely 5'6). Despite this, I've done relatively well with women in the US. I have noticed that height is the most important physical trait here, however.

To be honest, this is the reason why I've never considered Eastern European women before. I assume that they are similar heights to white women everywhere and, thus, around my height or taller. Though, I don't know if they view height similar to American women.

I do realize that this is a general question, but, in the observations (or experience) of the posters here, should I even bother going after these girls? Or should I just stick to areas of the world where the women are short on average?

[BillyB]

I'm a short guy (barely 5'6). Despite this, I've done relatively well with women in the US. I have noticed that height is the most important physical trait here,

Western women can take care of themselves financially better than Eastern women. They don't need a man as much for financial support so they can place more value in other areas such as a man's height, his piercings and tattoos.


I've seen a greater number of mismatched heights between men and women in the FSU compared to home. It's safe to say the value of a man's character and personality is greater than the value of his height over there.

should I even bother going after these girls?

Why ask us? It's just as easy to ask the ladies.

Write a bunch of FSU women. In your intro letter, tell them how many centimeters tall you are along with your age. Each woman will decide for herself if your height is an issue. If a woman is accepting of your height, then all you have left to do is win her over with your other traits.

[Shadow]

The best way is to make sure you mention it in your profile, and not be obsessive about it.
During initial mails and chat make some light references to yourself, and include photos that show clearly what to expect.

[tfcrew]

 Might consider looking at eastern Asia..

Country/Region    Average Female Height
China    5ft 0.8''
Japan    5ft 1.6''
Germany    5ft 4.9''
France    5ft 3.7''
Iran    5ft 3''
Iraq    5ft 1.3''
Italy    5ft 4.2''
Australia    5ft 4.5''
Belgium    5ft 4.3''
South Africa    5ft 2.5''
Sweden    5ft 5.7''
Netherlands    5ft 6.4''
New Zealand    5ft 5''
England    5ft 4.4''

Read more at Buzzle: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/average-height-of-a-woman.html

[Lily]

I'd say that in this aspect, which is basically governed by our instincts and not by our rationale part, all women are identical.
 
The OP might want to look up this thread:
 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=10852.0

[Maverick47]

Western women can take care of themselves financially better than Eastern women. They don't need a man as much for financial support so they can place more value in other areas such as a man's height, his piercings and tattoos.


I've seen a greater number of mismatched heights between men and women in the FSU compared to home. It's safe to say the value of a man's character and personality is greater than the value of his height over there.



Why ask us? It's just as easy to ask the ladies.

Write a bunch of FSU women. In your intro letter, tell them how many centimeters tall you are along with your age. Each woman will decide for herself if your height is an issue. If a woman is accepting of your height, then all you have left to do is win her over with your other traits.

It takes time and effort do write a bunch of ladies. I was just asking ahead of time if, like the US, women reject for something as stupid as height.

[Maverick47]

Might consider looking at eastern Asia..

Read more at Buzzle: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/average-height-of-a-woman.html

Trust me, I'm VERY aware of the average heights across the world. And yes, I've been looking into Asia.

[Maverick47]

I'd say that in this aspect, which is basically governed by our instincts and not by our rationale part, all women are identical.
 
The OP might want to look up this thread:
 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=10852.0

I'm inclined to disagree with this based on my experiences.

But that thread actually seems worse than ones I've read from American women. So it appears that Eastern Europeans are even more shallow than them (which is something I actually expected). Okay, I will bow out now and stick to Asians. Thanks.

[Misha]

The rule of thumb: most women would want a man who is taller than them when they are wearing their highest high heels. However, you don't have to marry most women, not even some women, just one woman. Is it possible to find a woman willing to marry a man who is only her height or perhaps even shorter? The answer to that is yes.

[JohnDearGreen]

Okay, I will bow out now and stick to Asians. Thanks.

Part of FSU is Asian.  Here is a view from a nightclub in Almaty to give you a glimpse of their ladies,
and also the type of men you would be competing against.

[Gator]

As everyone else has said, ask the RW.

One of the more prominent members of RWD has an Asian heritage and he married a 6' Siberian princess who towers above him.  They have been happily married for years.

If you have a limitation, you should focus on your strengths, making them even stronger.  Personality, charm, confidence and attentiveness are powerful assets when romancing women.

[BillyB]

It takes time and effort do write a bunch of ladies.

It takes time and effort to write or date a bunch of ladies whether you're focusing on the FSU, Asia, or at home. You understand you have a disadvantage being shorter than the average man. One way to increase your advantage is to work harder. If a tall guy writes 10 women and you write a 1000 women, with everything else being even,  who's more likely to end up married? If a wife is one of the most important things in your life, the effort you put into could be well worth the returns. If you go into this thinking you probably won't succeed, you're probably right.


Write a letter introducing yourself. Cut and paste it to every lady you write to. You don't have to type and spend a lot of time. Just add her name and if you don't mind typing some more, mention some things you read in her profile that you liked. Don't forget to attach photos if you're using a site that doesn't require you to have a profile.


Top of the Starting Out section has a sticky thread that has a lot of good sites to use.

[jone]

Johnny Hyde (Ivan Haidabura)  born in Russia and came to the US to become a talent agent for the William Morris Agency, was best known for discovering Norma Jean Baker, aka Marilyn Monroe.  Johnny stood about 5'1".   When asked about height disparity in the women he was with, Johnny would always remark, "Never mind how much taller they are, look where my head is at."

[chooter]

My wife is 3 inches taller than me and she has never once said anything about our height difference. When she puts on heels she's out of my viewing area then.

When we started talking marriage she never once mentioned the heights. She said these are my requirements for a husband.

Always be honest with me, treat me like a lady, never lie to me and if you ever cheat one me you're dead.

There are many gorgeous FSU women your height and shorter, who says you have to marry tall and taller..you? or someone else?

I wasn't even looking for a wife at the time I met my now wife on a plane flying back to Atlanta from Moscow. When I was engaged to two other RW I never once thought about the heights. Both the other RW were taller than me and the subject never came up between us about the height difference. I'm 5'8", used to be 5'9' and lost an inch with age....so my retired medical artist wife told me.

[jone]

Your wife told you that you lost an inch?

[Muzh]

I'm inclined to disagree with this based on my experiences.

But that thread actually seems worse than ones I've read from American women. So it appears that Eastern Europeans are even more shallow than them (which is something I actually expected). Okay, I will bow out now and stick to Asians. Thanks.

Man, so sad to hear that. And you let other people tell you what to do with your life?
 
Think for a second if ANY woman would like that in you. It doesn't matter how tall are you.
 
BTW, I've seen a shitload of women under 5'6" all over in Kyiv and Kharkiv.
 
 

[Daveman]

Man, so sad to hear that. And you let other people tell you what to do with your life?
 
Think for a second if ANY woman would like that in you. It doesn't matter how tall are you.
 
BTW, I've seen a shitload of women under 5'6" all over in Kyiv and Kharkiv.
 
 

Yeah, that's seems strange - to witness someone throwing in the 'Slavic ladies' towel over such an inconsequential point in the grand scheme of things.  Absolutely nothing wrong with Asian ladies either, but it seems the problem lies closer to home.

 

[Slumba]

I'm a short guy (barely 5'6). Despite this, I've done relatively well with women in the US. I have noticed that height is the most important physical trait here, however.

To be honest, this is the reason why I've never considered Eastern European women before. I assume that they are similar heights to white women everywhere and, thus, around my height or taller. Though, I don't know if they view height similar to American women.

I do realize that this is a general question, but, in the observations (or experience) of the posters here, should I even bother going after these girls? Or should I just stick to areas of the world where the women are short on average?

1. There are plenty of 5'5 and under women; just avoid the ones whose profile specify a height (usually 5'11 or taller) and you will be fine.  Personally I consider a woman who specifies a height requirement as looking to compensate for her perceived deficiency, so, it is a character flaw, so no loss.

2. I am about your height, 5'7 .  You simply shouldn't worry about it; if they don't like you they will make it clear enough to you, usually quite quickly.

3. Asians won't fix your mental problems or any bad habits you have, like lack of exercise or diet.  I recommend eating well and working out, and learning to dress better once you have trimmed down.

4. EE women still expect a "provider" and are not as fixated on "hunky tingle-generator who looks like Rob Lowe"; so, you can compensate by improving your personality, outlook, exercise, diet, etc.  If you read this site, learn a bit more about the part of the world she is from, etc. then you will be much better situated than some of the tall morons who went over and failed.

[cojack]

which is basically governed by our instincts and not by our rationale part

Why did you say not rationale?  I had to know.

The OP might want to look up this thread:
 
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=10852.0

I looked up your reply and laughed a little.

You said:

Age changes, height does not.

Followed by:

a shorter man would be as attractive for a woman, as a fatter woman would be attractive for a man.

Weight changes, height does not!  Definitely no rationality like you mentioned!

[ML]

Hey, what's the big deal with 'shorter' guys worrying about what women want regarding height.

There are tons of women in every country that are less than 5 feet 5 inches;  I know because I had to screen them out when I was looking.  5 feet 6 was my minimum height.

So what if a gal wants someone taller than her?

Unless the guy is shorter than 5 feet tall . . . there are plenty of women who will be shorter than him, and thus desirable to the gal.

Shorter guys really have nothing to bitch about.

Who really gets the short end of the stick are the gals who are 6 foot tall and taller.

[2tallbill]

I'm inclined to disagree with this based on my experiences.

But that thread actually seems worse than ones I've read from American women. So it appears that Eastern Europeans are even more shallow than them (which is something I actually expected). Okay, I will bow out now and stick to Asians. Thanks.

"You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try" Homer Simpson
If you are still around you should listen to the advice from the guys who tell you that you can find a good girl if you go about it the right way.

1. The numbers game theory is exactly right: Write more girls

2. Some girls won't care that you aren't tall especially 5' 6" you're not 4' 11"  for crying out loud.

3. Girls care more about confidence

4. Or you can go the Homer Simpson route (I think Marge is
taller than him especially when you count the hair)

[santo]

I'm 5'5" never had trouble dating women here or abroad.  My Russian girl is 5'2. She just happened to be shorter but I have dated girls taller than me.

Don't let height or any other physical features get to your head.  In the end it's your character that counts, not some shallow person's opinion of how attractive you are. If you were taller you would worry that your pp is too small or something else ridiculous.  I lost my hair a few years ago and just shave my head and work out.  I'm bald and short. The girls I get now are better than when I was younger because I have more confidence now. That counts a million times more than height to a woman.

[Lily]

Why did you say not rationale?  I had to know.

I looked up your reply and laughed a little.

You said:

Followed by:

Weight changes, height does not!  Definitely no rationality like you mentioned!

Why not the rationale? Probably because we are not able to make any orders to our instincts. We cannot tell them something like, 'you must be attracted to this big beautiful woman because she has a fantastic inner world'. You are either attracted, or not. Instincts can hardly be obedient.

[Larry1]

I'm a short guy (barely 5'6). Despite this, I've done relatively well with women in the US. I have noticed that height is the most important physical trait here, however.

To be honest, this is the reason why I've never considered Eastern European women before. I assume that they are similar heights to white women everywhere and, thus, around my height or taller. Though, I don't know if they view height similar to American women.

I do realize that this is a general question, but, in the observations (or experience) of the posters here, should I even bother going after these girls? Or should I just stick to areas of the world where the women are short on average?

You are correct that in the US dating world a guy's height is a hugely important factor in his success.  I suspect this has been exacerbated by the advent of online dating.  A girl can search for guys using various parameters, one of which is height. A thorough analysis of online dating in the US found that an extremely high percentage of girls wanted a guy who was at least six feet tall.  But only around 11% of guys in the US are that height (as best I recall; I could be wrong about this).

My sense is that FSUW are not as focused on height as are AW. I suspect they have a more realistic attitude toward a guy's height and conclude that if a short guy treats them well and can support them, they will give him a chance.  So you might continue to search in FSU.  If you do so, heed 2tallbill's advice above: this is a numbers game.  You will almost certainly have to contact a great many girls in order to find one you want to visit (and who wants you to visit her).

[Muzh]

You are correct that in the US dating world a guy's height is a hugely important factor in his success.  I suspect this has been exacerbated by the advent of online dating.  A girl can search for guys using various parameters, one of which is height. A thorough analysis of online dating in the US found that an extremely high percentage of girls wanted a guy who was at least six feet tall.  But only around 11% of guys in the US are that height (as best I recall; I could be wrong about this).

My sense is that FSUW are not as focused on height as are AW. I suspect they have a more realistic attitude toward a guy's height and conclude that if a short guy treats them well and can support them, they will give him a chance.  So you might continue to search in FSU.  If you do so, heed 2tallbill's advice above: this is a numbers game.  You will almost certainly have to contact a great many girls in order to find one you want to visit (and who wants you to visit her).

Someone here mentioned that (maybe in a study or a poll, can't remember which) most of the FSU girls would love to marry a man closer to their age, but that doesn't stop the older generation of Western men flooding the FSU for these honeys.