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« on: February 20, 2005, 12:40:21 PM »
Posting an ad and using marriage agencies in Kharkov didn't work!

I went to Kharkov from December 27, 2004-January 9, 2005. Contrary to what I thought, posting an ad in a Kharkov newspaper through a friend screening the women didn't work because the women who I dated promised what they had no intention of delivering. They promised to take me to night clubs, to meet me in person once I arrived, and to show me around the city. Only 3 out of several girls showed up. I corresponded with one girl for several months and everything was fine. I arrived there and she said that she was going to go out with me every night. She was the main reason that I went. We went out every day and I thought she was the one, but she didn't spend any evenings with me except twice. She was real nice on the phone, through letters and e-mails, and still promised to go out with my on evenings. She had every excuse in the world for not going out in the evenings, which included being in her period to having stomach aches to having to study for finals. So, I showed up at her house to surprise her on one of the days when she said she was sick because of her stomache and period. She wasn't home and her mom said that she was at her friends. I realized that this girl like all of the ones who I dated weren't serious.

Also, another one of the girls who responded, said she just wanted to practice her English with an American after my newspaper ad clearly stated that I was looking for a serious relationship leading to marriage. Also, I was stood up by another girl. Other girls told me to call them on the phone once I arrived. All they wanted to do was practice their English on the phone with me. Then, the other girls couldn't be reached because they didn't answer their phones, had their phone disconnected, or turned their phone off. I hit it off with one girl (who is another girl I corresponded with for 6 months) from the ad and we agreed for her to come to the U.S. and she agreed to send me all of the documents I needed. We went to a lot of places, kissed, and decided for her to come to the U.S. to see if we are meant to be after living together.

Also, we agreed to get a computer for her on her birthday which is April 19 so that she can communicate with me. When I got back to the U.S., she refused to send me the documents I needed if I didn't send her money. She said that she wouldn't send the documents or the passport picture which I needed until I did so. She said that since I am her boyfriend that I need to send her $200 for her school, $70 for a dress suit, and $200 for a used computer by Valentine's Day. So, I dumped her. Her name is Tetyana Prischenko or Tanya Prischenko and she turned out to be the biggest liar, scammer, and blackmail artist. It turns out she never had an intention of leaving Ukraine, but was just looking to have someone buy her gifts.

Then, you have the dating agencies such as www.datingprettygirls.com, www.merrydating.com (international and not just in Kharkov), and www.myukrainianlady.com. All of these agencies had women who said they were going to meet me and they never showed up. The site of www.datingprettygirls.com closed down a while ago, but became www.myurkainianlady.com. I corresponded with a lot of ladies from www.myurkainianlady.com and the address of this web site was fake. The taxi drivers never heard of the address. Also, the web site closed down and is nowhere to be found. It closed down because police investigated that the owner NATALYA KRASNEVYCH and her helper Fadi scammed so many people that the police are still looking for them and the web site was closed down.

www.merrydating.com had several women who respond to your ad then when you go their phone numbers they give you don't work and they don't respond to e-mails after promising to meet you. This is the women's fault and not the site's. But, the women still didn't respond once I was there as they promised.

FINALY ANALYSIS: Going to Kharkov wasn't worth it. I wouldn't go back if my whole trip was paid for and I was guaranteed to meet someone decent. The women who I met were 100% style and no substance. They had no intention of leaving Kharkov or Ukraine, promised what they had no intention of delivering, stood me up, lied to me previously, blackmailed me, and seemed to have very bad attitudes. They favored Russia and said Western Europe and the U.S.A. were the same and said that people outside of Kharkov are cold, close minded, reserved; they said especially in Kiev. I WILL BE FAIR AND SAY THESE COMMENTS ARE FOR THE WOMEN WHO I DATED IN KHARKOV. I DON'T LIKE TO STEREOTYPE. BUT, I WOULD NEVER GO BACK AT ALL TO KHARKOV. Regardless of what the locals said, which is to post an ad because this is better than marriage agencies, have my Kharkov friend screen them and meet them, and then meet them myself, the whole process was a failure because of the women's intentions and the improper screening. So, this means that I don't recommend using any freelance interpreter/translator, especially not VYACHESLAV SHCHYROV aka Slava. He doesn't know how to screen women, promised more women that I would meet, and won't respond to me by e-mail because I don't send him money any more.

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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2005, 01:40:07 PM »
Welcome back Whiskey.

Whiskey you had a bad experience in Kharkov. I think (and hope) you have come away from this experience a little more educated. But Whiskey, you can't say that Kharkov is bad for everyone, many men have done quite well in Kharkov. I think you are responsible for what happened to you in Kharkov as much as everything. This is not to be dis-respectful to you Whiskey, I just think you rushed into this and you met a scammer and a friend who turned out not to be a friend and now Kharkov is bad to you.

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2005, 01:51:08 PM »
Jack, i agree with you, maybe Todd have make some mistake... by his story is a nightware, a 0% of luck... i don't think that "rush" is the probleme... he have write 6 month to some ladies... what i wish know, it is how he have select the woman... it seem to me that his selection method is the more bad it is possible to imagine... he keep only the "bad girl"...

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2005, 06:47:38 PM »
I am not stereotyping that all women in Kharkov are bad. It's just that I don't recommend women from Kharkov based on the ones who I met because they don't seem to want to move out of Ukraine no matter what.

Also, I agree that I had bad luck. I had 100% bad luck. It was a wasted trip. But, I will never go to Kharkov again.

The woman who I chose was very nice at first and then she turned into a scammer when she realzied what it would be like to leave her country. Also, she was screened properly. At the end, she just asked for more and more money. And she blackmailed me. Don't use the services of Slava if you go to Kharkov.

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2005, 08:43:03 PM »
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The woman who I chose was very nice at first and then she turned into a scammer when she realzied what it would be like to leave her country.
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leaving the country !!! i think that each woman involved in the process of marry a foreign man know that she will need to leave her country early of late... i think that the problem is other... you have write to several woman for a long time and all was good... but when you meet the woman, they go away... why ?

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2005, 03:47:29 AM »
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i think that each woman involved in the process of marry a foreign man know that she will need to leave her country early of late...
I disagree.  Many women who get involved with an agency (even if just listing a profile) haven't thought all of this out completely.  Some accompany friends to the office for 'moral support', and fill out a profile while they are there (as my wife initially did).  Others answer ads in newspapers or flyers for 'modeling opportunities' or for the free food and champagne offered at socials or office open houses.

Although not scammers, they may then be labeled as such if their intentions are not as strong as the men who then write to them.  I believe a good number believe they WOULD relocate to a new country, if the right man comes along.  They just are unsure what constitutes the right man.  A woman may get caught up in the process in the beginning.  After all, what woman wouldn't be excited to correspond and meet with an interesting and (contrastingly) rich foreign man?  But then reality sets in, and they discover that what they feel is not enough to leave their family and country behind for something unknown.

The most difficult part of the courtship with my wife was to show her life would be happier and better for her to marry me and live in the US.  It takes both a special woman and a good relationship.  Personally, a am a bit wary of someone who would quickly leave their life behind for a new one.  To me, it's a sign of a personality flaw, the desire to escape problems in one's life by moving.  Usually, those problems follow a person no matter where they go...

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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2005, 06:27:32 AM »
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Many women who get involved with an agency (even if just listing a profile) haven't thought all of this out completely.  Some accompany friends to the office for 'moral support', and fill out a profile while they are there (as my wife initially did).  Others answer ads in newspapers or flyers for 'modeling opportunities' or for the free food and champagne offered at socials or office open houses.

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ConnerVT, do you find this normal :shock: ... one fill a document without know about what it is... and the other have only interest in food and champagne... and i can call these woman scammer... usualy, people use the term of scam when money is involved...

Ok, let see the first case... several man go pay for the contact address of these woman who have fill a form without thinking about this, some man go make a trip for nothing... it is a scam...

Second case, only champagne and food... Who pay this... the man who go to social, who hope meet marriage minded woman... again loose of money, scam !

When you start these procedure, you need to be sure you wish marry and not game with feeling of other... relationship is something serious...

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After all, what woman wouldn't be excited to correspond and meet with an interesting and (contrastingly) rich foreign man?  But then reality sets in, and they discover that what they feel is not enough to leave their family and country behind for something unknown.

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For this, you have other place, site with pen-pals relation... of site for only friendship... When you wish search a foreign man for marriage, you need to know the consequence before begin... And when a woman go almost to the K1, after 6 month exchange letter and one meeting... and at last moment change her mind because she have not receive the money wished... it is a scam too...


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Personally, a am a bit wary of someone who would quickly leave their life behind for a new one.  To me, it's a sign of a personality flaw, the desire to escape problems in one's life by moving.  Usually, those problems follow a person no matter where they go...

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For me, it show a strong character, someone who know what he wish... When you are surronded by too much problem, where you can make nothing about, the best move is ... to move ! And about the problem in FSU, the woman can make nothing about this... it is too much woman in regard of man... what make... kill each woman bady ? Several war, security in factory are so low that each day, you have accident and dead... what make ... send the woman in the coal mine in place of man? Woman wish quit Russia because they have no other choice... they take a way who can lead to a better future with a loving husband...

Why have you read the profile of you russian wife... have you so much problem with the woman of your country ? Have you try to escape these problem ? ... don't forget your own words, escape a problem is a flaw in personality !


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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2005, 06:50:41 AM »
And I agree with [user=140]ConnerVT[/user] One thing to think you can leave all you had behind  (and most probably there will be no way back) But really to DO that - is absolutely another thing.

You must offer a lot to your RW wife to compensate all her losses (I mean parents, friends, social status and so far)

Are you sure you can do that?


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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2005, 06:55:57 AM »
Todd, this freelance interpreter/translator, Slava, that you had problems with, how did you get introduced to him?

Does he have a site or e-mail address you can offer so others will know.

And maybe it would be possiable for us to hear his side of the story? You know their are two sides to every story. I don't doubt you but in all fairness should he not be allowed to defend himself since you have mentioned his name?

 

 

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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2005, 10:22:57 AM »
 Many women who get involved with an agency (even if just listing a profile) haven't thought all of this out completely.  Some accompany friends to the office for 'moral support', and fill out a profile while they are there (as my wife initially did).  Others answer ads in newspapers or flyers for 'modeling opportunities' or for the free food and champagne offered at socials or office open houses.
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ConnerVT, do you find this normal :shock: ... one fill a document without know about what it is... and the other have only interest in food and champagne... and i can call these woman scammer... usualy, people use the term of scam when money is involved...

To me, to scam someone, there has to be intent to defraud.  I think that there is a significant number of women who have not thought this all the way to the conclusion.  Agencies are filled with profiles of young women.  Are all of them capable of making mature adult decisions?  Are the much older men who court them all able to?  People who wouldn't think of signing a contract on a house or other purchase sometimes do not think twice about it, when issues of the heart and life are involved.  I also maintain that a good number of them would relocate, if the right man comes along.  But they may not be mature enough to recognize it.

After all, what woman wouldn't be excited to correspond and meet with an interesting and (contrastingly) rich foreign man?  But then reality sets in, and they discover that what they feel is not enough to leave their family and country behind for something unknown.
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For this, you have other place, site with pen-pals relation... of site for only friendship... When you wish search a foreign man for marriage, you need to know the consequence before begin... And when a woman go almost to the K1, after 6 month exchange letter and one meeting... and at last moment change her mind because she have not receive the money wished... it is a scam too...


I don't know the details in this particular instance, but my comment was one in general terms.  In your example, I would think that anyone following through on a K-1 with one meeting is making a terrible mistake.  Count your blessings to have it implode now, rather than months or years of hell for both people, and the damage to people's lives.

Personally, a am a bit wary of someone who would quickly leave their life behind for a new one.  To me, it's a sign of a personality flaw, the desire to escape problems in one's life by moving.  Usually, those problems follow a person no matter where they go...
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For me, it show a strong character, someone who know what he wish... When you are surrounded by too much problem, where you can make nothing about, the best move is ... to move ! And about the problem in FSU, the woman can make nothing about this... it is too much woman in regard of man... what make... kill each woman bady ? Several war, security in factory are so low that each day, you have accident and dead... what make ... send the woman in the coal mine in place of man? Woman wish quit Russia because they have no other choice... they take a way who can lead to a better future with a loving husband...

Maybe you should post this thought in the thread about desperation?  I chose to meet women who were a bit less desperate than this.  My wife is from a close family, left a good job she worked for 14 years, and we still own her flat in Russia.  It was a long task on my part to truly convince her that moving to the US was the best decision for us.  I believe that (at the time) she would of been happier if I moved to Russia.  Five trips to Russia in one year's time, amounting to almost 3 months was the time it took.  We lived as we live here, shopping together at the market, walking our son to and from school, living as man and wife do.  I know what my wife sacrificed to start her life her with me, and it is greatly appreciated.  In turn, she appreciates the help and support I give her.  To me, a much better proposition than being married to someone who is grateful for you helping them escape from something.

Why have you read the profile of you russian wife... have you so much problem with the woman of your country ? Have you try to escape these problem ? ... don't forget your own words, escape a problem is a flaw in personality !


Not knowing me or my story, don't presume to understand me.  And unless you have experienced much of the American dating situation, you would be well advised to not offer much comment.  I have no problem with AW, and in fact, was dating several before I traveled to Russia.  At the time, I was 42 and never married.  But I was tiring of meeting the limited number of women in Vermont that were looking for a marriage based relationship.  I was ready for one.  I expanded my search, first a few hundred miles, then over the entire east coast of the US.  And I dated a few women in FL, SC, TN, NY and MA.  I was not looking at RW as a salvation or "escape".  As many men who Internet date do, I was contacted by a scammer.  I was skeptical, and quickly determined it was a scam.  But I was intrigued.  That's how I ended up in Russia.

I did not look for a Russian woman to marry.  I found a wife who happens to be Russian.


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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2005, 11:23:42 AM »

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I did not look for a Russian woman to marry.  I found a wife who happens to be Russian.
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Perfect reply... you have search your soulmate and don't take care from where she was... very good method to find the happiness...

And yes, i don't have know you story... and it is not the usual story...

About my example with the K1, it was the story from wiskey... the first post of these topic...

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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2005, 04:02:50 PM »
Jack, I erased and threw away his contact information due to anger of him not screening the women properly. Also, there were several instances were he could have helped me in Kharkov and he refused. He told me he would show me were the laundromat, grocery stores, and downtown areas were. Also, when I asked him to ask a girl who worked in a mall for her phone number and if she is single he refused. He said I should ask her. He knew I didn't speak English.

I was recommended to him by some sources. However, Dmitry from www.kharkovgirls.com recently told me that Slava has nothing but complaints. He is a scammer and so are the women who I was introduced to. He only recommended women who didn't speak English and recommended 18-20 year olds. Also, he made me late for an appointment with a girl who we were going to meet and she left. I didn't know where to meet her because he didn't tell me. So, we walked a couple of miles and I was freezing. He didn't help at all and took on more than he could chew. Also, he promised that I would meet more women than I was going to and I didn't.

H made Kahrkov unbearable just liek the women. I WILL NEVER GO TO KHARKOV AGAIN.

It was a waste of a trip. And the women who I met were a waste of life and a waste of sperm.

Todd

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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2005, 04:07:37 PM »
Bruno, the girl wasn't bad until I got back. She was a great actress. I asked my interpretor if everything was normal and he said everything was perfect. Now, this Slava guy used her to look for victims. SHe is 18 and has no intention of leaving Ukraine. She just wants money. She asked me for money several times when I came back. So, I dumped her. Slava said several times that if he were single he would marry her because she is perfect for me. Also, I am having her blacklisted.

Todd

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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2005, 09:34:35 AM »
I think if you would've stuck with Dmitry then you would've been ok. Dmitry from Kharkovgirls is a great guy. I've used his service many times for apartments. He actually helped me get married there and was at my wedding. Anyone going to Ukraine doesnt need to label everyone in Kharkov as a scammer. Dmitry is gold.

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2005, 05:25:31 PM »
One thing to bear in mind is how young some of these women really are.  Just think about how flaky most women in their early 20's are in the US and Western Europe.  The younger that you date, the greater the probability that they will not have thought seriously about actually moving to a foreign country.  Also, it is entirely one thing to dream of moving with a prince to his realm, it is entirely another to be confronted with the actual reality. 

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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2005, 05:41:51 PM »
...."The younger that you date, the greater the probability that they will not have thought seriously about actually moving to a foreign country......"    That's true Todd. 
 
....."Also, it is entirely one thing to dream of moving with a prince to his realm, it is entirely another to be confronted with the actual reality.".......  wooww, now that's cool Todd.
 
It sounds like, dare I say, the voice of experience.

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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2005, 08:38:05 AM »
I used Slavas service in ocktober and november this year, and he is NOT a scammer at all Todd. His service was just 100% sincere and great!! He also helped 2 of my friends in Kharkov. He helped us with finding a appartemendt, running a newspapers ad, internet service, translate, helped one of my friends to buy a flat in Kharkov!!!! You claims that Slava could not pick out wich girls who where sincere and not. But this is very hard Todd. You cant exspeckt that every girl you meet is sincere, and to now who is and who is not is very hard. I meet a lot of sincere girls during my stay in Kharkov, and Slava helped me with everything. He was there for me almost all the time, and at a very fair price. I dont know how old you are Todd, but you cant complain that a 18, 18!!! year old girl is a scammer. You say that Slava promised you more girl than you acktualy meet. For me there was so many girls who wanted to meet me that I had to say stop!! I meet so many girls, at most 8 girls one day.  Of course some of the girls dont know if they are ready to leave Kharkov, and Ukraina. But you must convince the girls that you are the man that can make them happy in a forreign country. It is very importandt that you ackt like a gentelman to Ukrainian girls. They are not used to gentelmen in their own country. Of course some girls will let you down, I had the same exsperience, but this had nothing to do with Slavas service. he cant guarante that some girls let you down, he cant force a girl to lowe you. Slava arrange for meeting with girls and then it is up to you, then you must give the girl a sutch a good impresion that she will acktualy give a relashionship with you a chance. For 5-6-7 years ago it was easyar to find a girl in Ukraina and bring her to a forreign country. Today it is mutch harder. The economical situation is improving and now it is not enough to be just a forreigner. No look, style, and money is importandt too, to go 14 days to Kharkov and belive that you then will find a wife is just a fairytail. Now you must work realy hard and come back several times to spend time with your girl and build a strong relashionship with her. By the way, Slava helped one of my friends to get engaged with a girl, this friend of mine stayed 3 months in Ukraina this fall, mand this was his 8 visite to Ukraina. It is not easy to find a bride, but it is possible if you work hard enough. VYACHESLAV SHCHYROV "Slava" is no scammer at all!!! You can trust him 100%, but if you think that finding a bride in Ukraina is easy you are wrong. This is hard work, and Slava can give a helping hand in the begining of this process. My friend Slava is the best!! By the way, for the qagencys he is a enemy because he takes their customers, so of course www.kharkovgirls.com wil bad mounth hi.

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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2005, 04:06:40 PM »
You didn't even post your name or your speficic experiences. So, you have no credibility. Also, Slava is a scammer. His friends told me that he chraged me way too much for the apartment that he found. So, he charged me a huge finder's fee and did so without regret. 

Also, www.kharkovgirls.com isn't the scammer. Dmitry even told me that Slava is a known scammer in  Kharkov and that people constantly complain about him. Dmitry helped me to find a girl who I was looking for. Slava didn't. Dmitry never promised anything he couldn't deliver. Slava always did promise what he had no intentions of delivering. Dmitry always provided me with women who spoke English or Spanish. Slava refused to introduce me to women who spoke English while there in Kharkov last December. Also, Slava and me went into an electronic store and I asked him to ask the girl who only spoke Russian if she was interested in me. I was paying him at the time and he refused. He is a major scammer. Ask Dmitry from www.kharkovgirls.com. Slava scammed me and will scam anyone who uses him. Luckily, I have been very successful in Russia, so there is no need for me to go to Ukraine.

Also, my fiancee told Slava that she wasn't interested in me, but just wanted to come to the United STates. He never told me this and told me after I cam back that he saw red flags in the girl. She told him this from the beginning and he admitted it.

So, you are a scammer too. I think you are Slava. You don't provide a name, an e-mail, or any specific descriptions.

You are a liar.

Todd

 

 

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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2005, 04:23:24 PM »
Hi again Todd. My name is Thor and I am from Norway. I have been several times in Ukraina. I have visited Kyiv, Odessa, Kherson, Poltava, Nikolaev and Kharkov. I am 36 years old. I sendt Dmitry a mail regarding Slava, you told me that her said that Slava was a well known scammer in Kharkov, but Dmitry told me that this was bull shit Todd. Slava told me that you ackted badly to the girls you meet in Kharkov, you where no gentelman at all. It is strange that you are the only person who complains about Slavas service Todd. My friends stays 4-6 months every year in Ukraina (Luhansk and Kharkov), and they told me that Slava is one of the most honest men they have meet in Ukraina. He was whet we call a "white man". You told me that you paid way to mutch for your appartemendt. Was this in Danilevskaya street near The Japanse restaurang? If so, I paid 35 dollars pr nigth and this is a fair price. I meet so many girls I liked in Kharkov. I runned a newspapers ad, and the phone rang all the time. I had to refuse meeting maybe 30-40 girls. And I meet some stunning girls too. Slava also helped me with everything like shooping groceries, tickets and so on.

 

When I see that call me a liar I can understand why Slava think that you where sutch a rued person. By I am glad that you have been sucessfull in Russia.

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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2005, 04:31:24 PM »
Please read the introduction about posting in this section. You will find it here: http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/view_topic.php?id=52&forum_id=11.

Please refrain from making accusations or insulting comments.

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« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2005, 04:33:09 PM »
Todd, just because other people, a LOT of people in fact, have been successful in a place you have not, does not mean those people are liars.
 
Thor has been to Kharkov Todd, I know this personally as he was part of our spring trip. And he, like many others, meet many nice, non-scamming ladies in Kharkov. I can't imagine how you were not able to meet any. The only thing I can think of is the 250,000 to 400,000 nice girls from Kharkov were all out of town when you were there.

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« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2005, 04:41:02 PM »
Hi Jack,

Yes that is thrue, I where with you at First dream and that was a great exsperince for me. It was a nice trip with you and I meet many nice and sincere girls last spring. I learned a LOT by traveling with your company. This time I went to Kharkov and I meet many sincere girls, many very beautiful girls too. And this time I had the exsperince to pick out who where sincere and who where scammers. You know Jack, you where my master last spring and I did learn a lot from you when it comes to dating Ukr girls!!!

Todd I am not a liar, and I had a great time in Kharkov. And Slava was far from a scammer, he helped me meet a lot of girls, and from there I had to convince the girls that I where their prince:)))

 

 

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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2005, 03:22:53 AM »
Thor, this is a lie. Slava is a liar like you. First of all if I were so discourteous to the girls then why did they invite me to their house? Second of all, Slava is a known scammer. Dmitry from Kharkov Girls says that Slava has more complaints than any freelancer or translator in Kharkov. Also, Slava lied numerous times to me.

He said that 18 year old women would be ideal for marriage, which is ridiciulous. Also, he siad that I would meet a lot of beautiful women in Kharkov, which was a lie. And he refused to introduce me to any Ukrainian women who spoke English. Kharkov is the 2nd largest city in the world. He said that there are not many women in Kharkov who speak English. This is a lie. I have already met 6 women from www.marriage-4u.com and Ivan who posted an ad for me in Yoshkar Ola, Russia. SLava attempted to do the same in Kharkov by posting an ad in the newspaper for me. However, Slava never let me have direct access to the replies of the ladies after he promised that I could.

Slava has an obsession with control. I already saw the website that you belong to that he controls. You are one of the only members. There is a reason for this. Slava failed to convince others to join.

Alina marriage agency has done more for me in 1 month than Slava has since June 2004. As a result, I cut Slava's money off. This is why Slava is upset.

If anyone doubts me, contact me offline and I will give you my Ukrainian friend's e-mail and they will confirm that I am not rude to anyone.

I am amazed at how someone like you Thor could make comments like this when you were not there with me in Kharkov. If I was so rude, then why is it that the Ukrainian women continued to correspond with me when I came back to the United States?

The truth is that I ended using the services of Slava because the girls who he introduced me to only wanted money. When I came back to the United States, they asked me for money for school and clothes. WHen I refused, they stopped corresponding with me. Then, Slava demanded more money and said he didn't know of any girls who spoke English. I asked him what he wanted more money for. He said to help me with a new web site I am currently constructing. I advised him that I didn't need his services because I don't trust him.

Here is a scammer who asked me for money. Slava knows this girl very well and has a partnership to scam people out of money. This is my former fiancee.

  http://www.uaprofiler.com/profiles/profile.php?id=1525

Slava is a liar and a scammer. Anyone who doubts this can just ask Dmitry at www.kharkovgirls.com.

Thor, making allegations when you were not even there in Kharkov with me constitutes as SLANDER. You were not there and you do not know what happened. I even told the people who I recommended Slava to to stop using his services because he is a scammer. Don't say that I was rude to the ladies if you don't even know me and never went on the dates with me.

Todd

 

 

 

 

 

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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2005, 03:31:51 AM »
Thor, if I am rude and such a bad person, then why are you happy that I am successful in Russia? This doesn't make sense.

The problem is that SLava promised way too much. This is my number one complaint. Also, he is a liar. He knows things about girls and he refuses to tell the truth. Also, he promised to show me where the hospital, cleaners, and grocery stores are and he never did. I had to go with my dictionary and map and look for them myself.

Thank God I am never going back to Kharkov. It was the worst vacation ever. I wouldn't even tell my worst enemies to go there.

Thor, if you want a reliable agency to post an ad for you or to find you a nice woman, then I recommend Alina Marriage Agency (www.marriage-4u.com) because I know the owner and my American friends told me to use him. One of them even got married there. His name is Barney and his wife is Natasha and they are on the web site as testimonials. If you need references, I will give you their e-mails offline.

I have met a beautiful Russian angel. She is so nice, sweet, and speaks English. Ivan did a background check, free webcam chat, and sent her some roses on my behalf.

Now, I sms this girl everyday and we e-mail each other everyday. I am planning to go to Russia soon.  Plus, I have some backups who SPEAK ENGLISH.

Todd

 

 

 

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