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We are all Chechens Now.
« on: March 01, 2014, 06:37:39 PM »

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2014, 04:36:05 PM »
Embrace what?
 
Terrorism?  :-\

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2014, 04:52:08 PM »
This sends a bad message in my opinion.. " We have no legitimate army armed/trained to put up a fight.. so lets call on the help of criminals"..   ::)

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2014, 04:56:28 PM »
LT-- you are propogating Moscow's propaganda as it seeks to denigrate each and every aspect of Ukraine.

Russia has committed an act of war in invading Ukraine-- Ukrainians have shown great discipline in not turning this into a shooting war at this stage. Moscow want it to be-- so it can use it as an excuse to invade all of Ukraine -- and that will turn all of Ukraine into a battlefield ie a war zone.
Putin will reap what he sows for Russia-- let Russians show some decency and get rid of Putin before he destroys Russia.
Ask yourselves why Putin used troops with Chechan experience in the invasion of the Crimea.
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2014, 10:50:27 PM »
JayH.. you are certainly correct. I only read the story, I didn't even look at the source. RTNews.. OY..  where recently their English speaking (and quite hot) Western liaison quit ON AIR and said " I can not continue to spread your lies. I'm a journalist "  even in text without the picture that says a lot.. her career is potentially ruined.

This is nothing more than Russian propaganda.. I retract my previous response.

So this is what Russian Kool-Aid tastes like...  and they drink this swill?   My bad for assuming/reading too quickly, assuming you LT, were linking to at least a somewhat unbiased source.. Are you on the payroll by chance?


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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2014, 01:12:44 PM »
I am not a hot Russian chic, so no, I am not on their payroll.

JayH, let's be honest here.  A lot of what Boethius warned us about is happening.  There is a lot of lawlessness in Kiev right now.  The West has been slow to help Euromaidan which has led to this lawlessness, economic, political and military security.  Klitchko is out of government because he is not for sale much to the disappointment of the bipartisan DC ruling class.  The govt has crooks from the opposing Donetsk mafia clan. (Like Timoshenko)

We said we would help these people and we are not.  Any reason why they ARE turning to Right Sector?

And BTW, the Chechen cause, the Dagestani, Tartarstani, and Kuban Ukrainians deserve their freedom too!

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014, 11:50:20 AM »
1) There is a lot of lawlessness in Kiev right now. 
2) We said we would help these people and we are not. 
3) Any reason why they ARE turning to Right Sector?


Any links substantiating the above? Not interested in personal opinions nor anecdotal evidence.
To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead. Thomas Paine - The American Crisis 1776-1783

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2014, 12:15:03 PM »
In response to why isn't the US helping.. It needs to be as part of a UN/ NATO operation.. or.. nothing.

Unfortunate as it may be, as I stated elsewhere , everyone hates the US acting as world police, until they actually need a country capable of acting like world police. This is one of those cases. It's time for NATO/UN to quit being completely worthless, then I'm sure the US will assist in every way it can.   

Putin is playing Queens gambit. The US isn't falling for it.

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2014, 12:50:47 PM »
In response to why isn't the US helping.. It needs to be as part of a UN/ NATO operation.. or.. nothing.

Unfortunate as it may be, as I stated elsewhere , everyone hates the US acting as world police, until they actually need a country capable of acting like world police. This is one of those cases. It's time for NATO/UN to quit being completely worthless, then I'm sure the US will assist in every way it can.   

Putin is playing Queens gambit. The US isn't falling for it.

Obama cites ‘moment of testing,’ urges Europeans to bolster NATO 
 
BRUSSELS — President Obama said Wednesday that Europe and the United States now face “a moment of testing” that challenges their unity and the international order they have worked for generations to build.

In a speech Wednesday evening at the Palais des Beaux-Arts in this Belgian capital, Obama suggested that the current standoff with Russia over its military intervention in Ukraine is part of a more fundamental struggle between democratic ideals and “an older, more traditional view of power.” He warned against “complacency” in the face of what he called Russia’s violation of international law in taking over Ukraine’s autonomous Crimea region.
 
The Washington Post
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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2014, 01:33:36 PM »
Muzh, that substantiates what I typed earlier.. if that was your intent, thanks. If not, we seem to be interpreting it differently.

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2014, 04:09:54 PM »

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2014, 09:35:46 PM »
I am not a hot Russian chic, so no, I am not on their payroll.


I just come back once in a while to re-read that.. I have no idea why it makes me laugh so hard  , but it does...

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Re: We are all Chechens Now.
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2014, 08:31:37 AM »
Muzh, that substantiates what I typed earlier.. if that was your intent, thanks. If not, we seem to be interpreting it differently.

Actually, I was stating that yours was not mere speculation.  :thumbsup:
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