What would a U.S.-Russia war look like?

[whynotme]

Whynotme, it would be a courtesy to all non-Russian speakers/readers if you could use English in your posts .

Is using of Russian banned here already and only ukrainian allowed? 

Hope you're satisfied now, I have to do a lot of work puting my quotes to google translator

[BillyB]

Never make war with Russians 1988

The Soviets were very aggressive back then. They even took their submarines head on with American subs playing games of chicken. There were many military incidences like the one you just showed. Many more incidences never made the news and we'll never know about.


The Russians had balls back then. Fortunately America had Ronald Reagan. Putin still has his big set of balls from the old days. Unfortunately we now have Obama who think loves solves all problems.

[whynotme]

The Soviets were very aggressive back then.

Explane please what American military ships forgot near Sevastopol?

[SANDRO43]

Is using of Russian banned here already and only ukrainian allowed? 

The use of Russian or Ukrainian or ANY other non-English language is not BANNED but neither is it encouraged since most RWD members have little or no proficiency in Russian. You failed to notice that I was only asking for a courtesy, not making a reprimand .

Hope you're satisfied now, I have to do a lot of work puting my quotes to google translator

Thank you for your kind efforts .

[BillyB]

Explane please what American military ships forgot near Sevastopol?

They forgot to bring milk and cookies.


At the time, America had a program to challenge territorial claims on the world's oceans and airspace that are considered excessive under international law. I remember in 1986 when Libya wanted to own 200 miles Mediterranean Sea past their coastline. Not going to happen. America sank a few Libyan boats and pushed them back.

[SANDRO43]

I remember in 1986 when Libya wanted to own 200 miles Mediterranean Sea past their coastline.

Maybe a bit less, since that'd have included Malta and maybe bits of southern Sicily, too .

[Gator]

Homegrown analysts make me laugh only 

On an issue as newsworthy as this, do you not read the facts and ponder the implications?   If so, your are homegrown too.  One difference, my home is the West, not Moscow.    My facts come from reputable, global news agencies, not Putin speeches.

After you marry and live in a free and open society for five years, try to remember the noodles hanging from your ears in March 2014. 

[whynotme]

On an issue as newsworthy as this, do you not read the facts and ponder the implications?   If so, your are homegrown too.  One difference, my home is the West, not Moscow.    My facts come from reputable, global news agencies, not Putin speeches.

After you marry and live in a free and open society for five years, try to remember the noodles hanging from your ears in March 2014.

The main difference is that I can read both sourses, make my own conclusions and don't spam web-space with its.
And calm down, I'm too old to believe in a free open society anywhere on that planet. Democracy is a steady crowd of fools delusion that they have the real power

[calmissile]

The main difference is that I can read both sourses, make my own conclusions and don't spam web-space with its.
And calm down, I'm too old to believe in a free open society anywhere on that planet. Democracy is a steady crowd of fools delusion that they have the real power

Did you really write this?

[2tallbill]

And calm down

Welcome to the forum !

[BillyB]

Whynotme, you have viewpoints that are much different than from the average person. What are the viewpoints of your future husband on the current events? I sincerely hope you two match up well on politics and world views so you can have a happy life together.


I'm curious. Has any Western man or FSU women broken off their friendship or relationship over differences of opinion on current events?

[2tallbill]

Whynotme, you have viewpoints that are much different than from the average person. What are the viewpoints of your future husband on the current events? I sincerely hope you two match up well on politics and world views so you can have a happy life together.


I'm curious. Has any Western man or FSU women broken off their friendship or relationship over differences of opinion on current events?

Billy, she has said that she wants to talk about the issues and not
about her personal life. I think we should respect her request.

Udachi

Bill

[Slumba]

And calm down, I'm too old to believe in a free open society anywhere on that planet. Democracy is a steady crowd of fools delusion that they have the real power

Wow.... I have to admit, this is a good point.  the "Iron Law of Oligarchy" does seem to show up in all the so-called democracies.

[LiveFromUkraine]

   My facts come from reputable, global news agencies, not Putin speeches.

Which agencies?

[whynotme]

Whynotme, you have viewpoints that are much different than from the average person. What are the viewpoints of your future husband on the current events? I sincerely hope you two match up well on politics and world views so you can have a happy life together.


I'm curious. Has any Western man or FSU women broken off their friendship or relationship over differences of opinion on current events?

My viewpoints are the viewpoints of average russian mature woman. Of course its different from Barbies views. Many guys here are seaching such type of women - easy to control >>> just send her to kitchen.
As for my future husband  ... seems I catched the last adequate one who did not post at both forums.

[Belvis]

After you marry and live in a free and open society for five years, try to remember the noodles hanging from your ears in March 2014.

There are seeds of truth in your words but also some sort of blindness. When a man can easily see noodles on somebody else ears it's hard to see noodles hanging from own ears 

[Dewed]

I must research this noodles on the ears expression, but in context it seems to be something similar to "drank the kool-aid"
Believing propaganda and misinformation.

While I certainly do love my country, I'm not naive enough to believe everything the government says either.. nor the news, unless I can verify it from multiple sources from multiple countries and even then, global oligarchy.. yeah, I don't trust anyone 

[justme100]

I'm curious. Has any Western man or FSU women broken off their friendship or relationship over differences of opinion on current events?

I know 2 cases)

[justme100]

And now Ukraine, if it can reduce corruption, could easily become over 10-20 years a strong Western ally at Russia's borders. 

With all my respect, please read carefully all  info about current situation in Ukraine in any sphere. you can use any source, even ukrainian, even they can't hide what;s going on there now. There will be no state of Ukraine in 20 years.

[BillyB]

My viewpoints are the viewpoints of average russian mature woman. Of course its different from Barbies views. Many guys here are seaching such type of women - easy to control >>> just send her to kitchen.
As for my future husband  ... seems I catched the last adequate one who did not post at both forums.

Thanks for sharing that little bit of information.


I'm glad you, justme100, and Belvis are sharing your opinions here. That's hard to do when you're in the minority. I think it's important for posters here to see the views coming from Russia. Russian news, not Ukrainian or American is most important to me now because it's Russia who is dictating the events.


Putin has a lot of support for what he's doing and whatever he's about to do. Putin has much more support from his people than Obama.

[Larry1]

This is pretty funny:

[Muzh]

whynotme and justme100,

There will not be a military war between Russia and Europe/America.  Some say there will be an economic war (ever increasing sanctions and trade barriers).  I doubt it will become very serious because there are strong disincentives on both sides against escalating the sanctions to an all-out war.

I would not be that certain.
 
As it stands right now, all that is needed is one bullet and a war will definitely will break out even though Putin knows very well that in a conventional war his ass will be severely kicked.
 
He is embracing the North Korea strategy which is: He's nuts. Leave him alone or he will statrt a nuclear war.
 
 
http://www.c-span.org/video/?318371-1/russian-intervention-ukraine

[Muzh]

Is using of Russian banned here already and only ukrainian allowed? 

Hope you're satisfied now, I have to do a lot of work puting my quotes to google translator

Oh boy, here we go again. 

[GQBlues]

With all my respect, please read carefully all  info about current situation in Ukraine in any sphere. you can use any source, even ukrainian, even they can't hide what;s going on there now.....

President Obama calls Vladimir Putin to discuss the situation in Ukraine.





The most compelling exchange of this conversation happened at the 1:30 mark.

[Gator]

Today the world's largest economies suspended Russia from the G8 membership.  "Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said being kicked out of G8 would be no big deal." 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/24/russia-shrugs-threat-expulsion-g8

Lavrov's opinion is based on the fact that both the G8 and G20 are informal organizations.  Nevertheless, the G8 snub shows that the world's largest economies (other than China which is not a member of the G8) wish not to include Russia in its summit conferences to promote a world order.  The world's leading economies are isolating Russia. 

The predecessor G7 started working with Boris Yeltsin in 1995 to encourage capitalist reforms.  And Russia joined the G8 in 1998 making it the G8.     

Putin wishes to return Russia to the status of a world power.  His steps also seem to be pushing Russia backwards towards Soviet isolationism.