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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #950 on: October 29, 2014, 12:43:45 PM »
And the mothers of dead Russian soldiers are not allowed to protest or question the war.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #951 on: October 29, 2014, 01:08:15 PM »
And the mothers of dead Russian soldiers are not allowed to protest or question the war.

What war?  According to Putinocchio there are still no Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #952 on: October 29, 2014, 01:54:03 PM »
No Joes.  Just a lot of vacationers



These Russians sure are dumb.  Who goes on vacation to get killed?  Couldn't pay me to do that.  How about you?

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #953 on: November 04, 2014, 04:55:51 AM »


Top 5 horrible fake Russian media about the "atrocities" Ukrainian military
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/ukrayina/top-5-strahitlivih-feykiv-rosiyskih-zmi-pro-zvirstva-ukrayinskih-viyskovih-389866.html


TSN.ua collected the most impressive inventions of Russian propaganda. Screenshot of video Myths of the Russian media about Ukraine Russian media continue to invent horrific stories of "atrocities" Ukrainian military. TSN.ua made ​​a selection of the most impressive fake lately.

 1. Boy clave drugs and made the target of rocket Recently Russian channel NTV showed a story about a teenage boy Stas, who was "tortured" fighters Natshvardiyi . The military allegedly threatened to kill the boy's father if he did not help them. Stas put pea jacket laced with radio transmitters and sent fighters to the checkpoint, and before that had three injections of the drug, told a Russian reporter. The boy "had become e point on the map natshvardiytsiv laptop, electronic targets for their missiles."

 However StopFake publication notes that the boy, whose Russian journalists took off for his fictional story, no one stole. His name is Stanislav Petrov, S. and actually disappeared Oct. 12 from Red Lehman. Since then, he wanted Krasnoarmiysk MB Internal Affairs of Ukraine in Donetsk region. Also, the boy has mild mental retardation. "We know that on 12 October the boy left home and has so far not returned. Signs: to look 12-13 years, height 140 cm, slim build, oval face, blue eyes, blond hair of medium length. The child was dressed in sweater dark red pants, sneakers. Stanislav is diagnosed with "mild mental retardation". Tends to vagrancy "- the Chervonoarmiiskyi CF Interior Ministry. orbita.dn.ua

 2. Crucified Jesus Earlier in the summer, a woman named Galina Pyshnyak, like a refugee from the Slavic, told the Russian channel ORT has about one boy, "sacrifice" public executions Natshvardiyi. "They took a child 3 years old boy, small in panties, futbolochtsi, as Jesus nailed to the bulletin board . And all this at my mother's eyes. Mom kept and she looked like a child running out blood, "- said the Russians Galina. Russian media say about the crucifixion of children and other atrocities Natshvardiyi   However, in the Slavic none of the local or the crucifixion of the child or any other atrocities heard. No video or photo frame in support of shocking confession was not, though everything happened as claimed Pyshnyak the central square in the sight of thousands of witnesses.

3. Slaves Natshvardiyi A few days ago the Russian First Channel launched aired another fake that has little to do with common sense. Thus, in the reports of militants occupied territory, a local resident recounts the words he allegedly heard from Ukrainian military. "Say thank you, we have no shot. We were given the command to destroy all ... We promised a piece of land and two slave" - ​​quoted "representative rural community" village Stepanivka Victor Bykodorov. Note that the village Stepanivka Shakhtarsky Donetsk region was destroyed August 11 this year, the fire of the "city" so-called militants NPT. There has not left a single building, the majority of residents left.

 4. The stage-managed meeting "Italian anti-fascists" September 6 broadcast Russian TV channel "Russia 24" was the material of the alleged meeting in Venice against the policies of the Kiev authorities and "genocide" in Eastern Ukraine. However, this story frankly staging. Ukrainians who witnessed the meeting zafilmuvaly as crew of TV channel "Russia 24" gives the team allegedly protesters. "We need to loudly, more emotional, and do not smile" - provides guidance correspondent. About feykovist plot shows also that no media other than Russian channels, a meeting was not removed. Furthermore, there is confusion and the organizers of this event. In the story refers to "members of the Federation of Italian Trade Unions and the committee" for anti-fascist Donbass ", and comments unnamed man said:" We, the Italian anti-fascists. "

 5. Remove from trains in Natshvardiyu Natshvardiya in general is the main character of Russian inventions. So, in late July, a journalist of Russian propaganda channel "Russia 24" published on his Facebook page post, which stated that in Ukraine guys off the buses and trains and sent to Natshvardiyu .   

Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/ukrayina/top-5-strahitlivih-feykiv-rosiyskih-zmi-pro-zvirstva-ukrayinskih-viyskovih-389866.html


SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #954 on: November 04, 2014, 05:01:59 AM »
Jay,
With all due respect, the translations on many of these posts you make are so bad, that I don't know why you make them. 

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #955 on: November 04, 2014, 06:00:46 AM »
The Prince of Lies
Lord of the Flies

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #956 on: November 04, 2014, 07:05:13 AM »
The Prince of Lies
Lord of the Flies

This guy?  Or his boss?


"On Monday Vice President Biden went out of his way to correct himself after saying that Russia had “invaded” Ukraine; the White House still bans that term, as if lexicological make-believe will somehow erase the thousands of Russian troops stationed inside Ukraine. More worrying is the administration’s make-believe about its policy, which officials actually seem to believe has been a success. Mr. Biden said of the crisis: “We’ve put it under control.” In fact, a big chunk of eastern Ukraine is now under the control of Mr. Putin — and it will be Moscow, not the White House, that determines what happens next."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mr-putin-resumes-his-chipping-away-at-ukraine/2014/11/03/ef1984c6-6385-11e4-836c-83bc4f26eb67_story.html
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #957 on: November 04, 2014, 07:21:53 AM »
Here's a bizarre twist in the propaganda war between Russia and Ukraine.  Russia promotes Crimean model as one of their own:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2818749/Weapons-mass-distraction-Ukrainian-model-34k-breasts-embroiled-propaganda-war-named-RUSSIA-S-natural-beauty.html


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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #958 on: November 04, 2014, 10:21:33 AM »
Its just bad

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #959 on: November 06, 2014, 11:26:59 AM »
Must Watch-- and it is even in English for those too lay to read material posted with Russian language links !!

The Menace of Unreality: Combatting Russian Disinformation in the 21st Century





« Last Edit: November 06, 2014, 11:31:06 AM by JayH »
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #960 on: November 06, 2014, 04:59:41 PM »
Ambassador Pyatt is a joke. 

Besides I thought you favored a neutral American stance.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #961 on: November 09, 2014, 01:23:00 AM »
Fighting Russian propaganda.
Topics: was it okay to carve up Poland?
and the fake threat of right-wing fascists in Ukraine's government



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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #962 on: November 09, 2014, 01:30:03 AM »
Here's the video report that debunk's RT's claim of fascist extremists in Ukraine:

http://youtu.be/dIE-a6kmung?list=UUjX58COleIWwvc0_e9r_oMA

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #963 on: November 09, 2014, 01:48:39 AM »
Speaking of a fake fascist threat, Putin accuses the US of supporting fascists and Islamic extremists, in this recent speech. (10 minute mark) Here's the full speech:



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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #964 on: November 09, 2014, 02:03:01 AM »
Putin, in that speech says that 'They have thrown two nations into a mutual conflict.'
They- being the West. Two nations- Ukraine and Russia.
That idea is severely contradicted by the recent Parliamentary elections in Ukraine that showed the world Ukraine's preference for the EU and discarding of the the old Soviet ways. ...Ukrainians have minds of their own. Putin also implies that all of the West's news outlets are controlled by Washington. ...shootka.
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #965 on: November 09, 2014, 02:45:10 PM »
Here's an in interesting take on the  Russiganda and the puppies that lap it up.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/08/russia-today-western-cynics-lap-up-putins-tv-poison

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #966 on: November 09, 2014, 03:19:39 PM »

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #967 on: November 09, 2014, 05:09:20 PM »
Here's an in interesting take on the  Russiganda and the puppies that lap it up.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/08/russia-today-western-cynics-lap-up-putins-tv-poison

And look at the comments...standard trolls all extolling the virtues of RT and condemning the vices of the West!

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #968 on: November 09, 2014, 06:03:56 PM »
I stopped looking at comments long ago. I know what my thoughts are and they won't be swayed by others ideas.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #969 on: November 10, 2014, 12:07:11 AM »
The taking of Crimea- Putin's illogic:
This article goes over former territorial shifts, that would remove territory from present-day Russia:

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/11/09/putins-twisted-imperial-logic-the-many-historical-claims-on-russian-lands/

oops, I just noticed that AkMike has already posted this link elsewhere....
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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #970 on: November 10, 2014, 12:18:42 AM »
No Problem as far as I'm concerned! Sometimes it needs to be repeated before it sinks in. (At least that's what my wife says)  :rolleyes:

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #971 on: November 10, 2014, 06:36:54 AM »
The taking of Crimea- Putin's illogic:
This article goes over former territorial shifts, that would remove territory from present-day Russia:

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/11/09/putins-twisted-imperial-logic-the-many-historical-claims-on-russian-lands/

oops, I just noticed that AkMike has already posted this link elsewhere....

Author Kirill Mikhailov is a brave man. The GRU's reach is worldwide.

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #972 on: November 10, 2014, 12:49:57 PM »
Kasparov- about stopping Putin:

http://euobserver.com/foreign/126447

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #973 on: November 11, 2014, 09:24:31 AM »
To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead. Thomas Paine - The American Crisis 1776-1783

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Re: The Propaganda War
« Reply #974 on: November 11, 2014, 10:40:55 AM »
Dear Russian citizens,
When your son or daughter dies, while serving in your military, don't you have a right to know the details??? Your government is telling you that it is okay to keep it a secret:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-11-11/deaths-of-russia-soldiers-said-killed-in-ukraine-secret
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