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Offline Sergeant Major

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Kherson Girls
« on: April 25, 2014, 02:08:31 AM »
- Kevin is a thief
- Kherson Girls is a thief agency

No 'misunderstandings', no 'disagreements', nor drama of any kind...
Kherson Girls just flat-out stole my money (took all the money off my client fund without any advance warning, nor any good reason).
Not much money, but it was my money, entrusted to Kevin and his agency... only for him to decide he could could simply take it.

So, for any who may be considering sending money to Kherson Girls for any reason, just keep one thing in mind...
- Kevin is a thief



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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2014, 02:52:49 AM »
We have heard all this before--if you want your post to survive moderation I suggest you add some detal to support your allegation  and give everyone the opportunity to see what you alledge.




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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2014, 05:09:36 AM »
Tell us about the story
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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2014, 03:38:05 AM »
Tut tut tut!! I thought this agency was soooooooooo highly recommended by soooooooo many cronies??  :deadhorse:

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2014, 04:54:23 AM »
I dropped by Kherson Girls last summer....

And stayed in Kherson for several days,,
as I had some dating prospects in the Nikolaev - Kherson (and also Odessa) region.
Every morning from around their opening time, I spent much of my days in their office.
While they arranged lunch break, and mid day, dates for me, with my choice of women among their clients.

I got along very well with, and became friendly with the girls working there,,
they are truly serious about their matchmaking work,, and never charged me for anything outside our agreement.
They personally know a lot about all of their clients,, and can help guide you towards a suitable woman.
 
Even though I don't feel the need for an agency, and didn't find a match among their clients.
Their clients were all honest and serious in meeting with me.
I can highly recommend them to anyone looking for a truly serious agency,,,,
especially if you find several women among their clients that you like and find compatible.

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 06:29:56 AM »

"Mail order brides"




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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 09:11:14 AM »
"Mail order brides"






Interesting youtube. Thanks Steveboy. Those guys certainly seem naive.

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 02:10:08 PM »
Those guys certainly seem naive.



Not all of them Maxx. One of them is the owner of AFA and probably a multi millionaire.
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 02:55:39 PM »
- Kevin is a thief
- Kherson Girls is a thief agency

No 'misunderstandings', no 'disagreements', nor drama of any kind...
Kherson Girls just flat-out stole my money (took all the money off my client fund without any advance warning, nor any good reason).
Not much money, but it was my money, entrusted to Kevin and his agency... only for him to decide he could could simply take it.

So, for any who may be considering sending money to Kherson Girls for any reason, just keep one thing in mind...
- Kevin is a thief



The problem is that on the internet anyone can say anything. This is your first
post. You may have a legitimate complaint or maybe you were disappointed that
one of the girls didn't want to marry you. 

You should try to be more specific about what happened. Did you contact somebody
at Kherson Girls? What did they say?

I will send a message to Kherson Girls to see if Kevin or someone there wants
to respond.

Udachi !

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FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2014, 04:19:58 PM »
I have had troubles with agencies before but I give this complaint no credence.

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2014, 05:16:39 PM »
At least this one waited 25 minutes after he posted before logging off - but he hasn't been back.  :'(

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2014, 05:43:34 PM »
We'll give him a day or two to provide details, and Kherson Girls opportunity to respond if they wish.  If it remains as is, we'll kill the thread.

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2014, 01:07:08 AM »
The problem is that on the internet anyone can say anything. This is your first
post. You may have a legitimate complaint or maybe you were disappointed that
one of the girls didn't want to marry you. 

You should try to be more specific about what happened. Did you contact somebody
at Kherson Girls? What did they say?

I will send a message to Kherson Girls to see if Kevin or someone there wants
to respond.

Udachi !

Bill
Fair point Bill... I mentioned my Client Fund in the original post, but I agree that I should give more explanation.

I am active military, but that soon will be completing. I began writing girls through Kherson Girls a few years ago, and after exchanging a few letters with some girls, and fully thinking about the entire prospect of developing something serious with a girl from Ukraine, I decided it would be better if I waited until my active service time was complete. I had deposited some money on the Kherson Girls "Client Fund" to be used for correspondence, and knowing that I would eventually be back, I simply left it "safely" in the care of Kherson Girls.

My active service will be completing soon, and I had looking forward for a long time of returning to my search. One of the first places I went was back to the Kherson Girls website to search and possibly send a letter or two. However, I discovered that the money on my Client Fund was gone! It was removed in February without any prior notice or warning. The note attached to the withdrawal was "inactive account, money donated to children's fund".

I would think before anyone arbitrarily takes MY MONEY of MY Client Fund, perhaps an email stating that my account was considered inactive and if I didn't respond within a certain time frame (30 days maybe?) the money would be taken for the company's "charity cause". Of course I would have quickly responded and let KG know I would be back soon. But to just take the money, out of the blue, with no warning nor any attempt to contact the person who the money actually belongs to... IS THEFT. It makes no difference if the money was used for charity, or for an office pizza party... it was my money, not Kherson Girls money.

I have sent Kherson Girls two emails inquiring about my Client Fund money and requesting the money put back on, but both have been read (read receipt returned) but neither has been responded to, nor has my money been put back on my Client Fund.

I used to be a regular on this forum, and I am well aware of how things are (or at least used to be) here. So I full expect everyone to quickly come to the defense of Kevin and KG and declare that what was done was perfectly reasonable and legitimate. I also would not be surprised if this thread simply disappeared (as one mod as already threatened to do). Nevertheless, as long as this thread survives "moderation" perhaps one or two would-be customers will have the opportunity to read it and think twice before trusting Keven and Kherson Girls with their money.

Caveat emptor

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2014, 01:58:21 AM »
Hi SM -- I guess it is a welcome back.
How much money is at stake here?  $100?   $1000? etc 
Forum sees many screaming "scam" etc  -- genuine cases do get a hearing. Kevin has posted on forum here in the  past  and it helped clarify issues. The point is that a reasonable case properly explained can get to resolution- so get your case out in the open and let us see what comes from it.
In the meantime--why not tell your story and experiences -- I am sure many others are interested too!! :)
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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2014, 02:10:52 AM »
I also would not be surprised if this thread simply disappeared (as one mod as already threatened to do). Nevertheless, as long as this thread survives "moderation" perhaps one or two would-be customers will have the opportunity to read it and think twice before trusting Keven and Kherson Girls with their money.

Caveat emptor

I see no reason to make the thread disappear now that you've provided details beyond "Kevin is a thief".  I'm interested in their response as well.

Are you positive there is no statement/condition/time limit on the website somewhere in the fine print concerning account inactivity or steps to place an account on hold?  How long were you gone?

Seems strange that your emails were not returned.  Try calling them.
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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2014, 05:51:50 AM »


Welcome back to the forum Sergeant Major,


Here's what their office policy says: "For account that have no activity for more then a year and no refund request. The balance on the account will be donated to the Children Services. A client will have 30 days afterward to request a refund once the funds are transferred."


Did you have any activity within the past year at the site even if you just logged on to check your inbox?


http://khersongirls.com/policies/#16. Abandon Accounts


I would think before anyone arbitrarily takes MY MONEY of MY Client Fund, perhaps an email stating that my account was considered inactive and if I didn't respond within a certain time frame (30 days maybe?)



Their fine print says you have 30 days afterward to request a refund. It does not say they have to notify you but they should be the ones to contact you, not the other way around. It would also be wise for them to send multiple notifications, a few months before the account gets closed and before the 30 days time limit for you to request a refund is up.


Check your spam box. Do a search in your email for "Kherson Girls inactive account." See if you overlooked a notification. Kevin should've done everything possible to notify inactive customers so that his act of charity doesn't hurt his business.


Here's what I'd do if I were you. Send Kherson Girls a link to this form and ask them to address the dispute in the open forum.  If you never had any problems using his service before, why not continue to use them if Kevin offers to deposit everything you put in the account back? If he's willing to agree, then make an effort to follow up on any other posts the internet that call him a scammer because a true scammer would never return your money.
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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2014, 06:53:45 AM »
That clears a lot of things up Billy. If I was Kevin I would change the policy of not letting people know that the funds in their account is about to be donated to a children's fund. I would send out multiple e-mails a few months in advance notifying the account holder this was about to happen. 

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2014, 07:47:59 AM »
SM
How much money was it and was it inactive for a year? It's pretty clear what KGs will do with such funds held for that period of time. Did you see that policy?

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2014, 09:00:44 AM »
...My active service will be completing soon, and I had looking forward for a long time of returning to my search. One of the first places I went was back to the Kherson Girls website to search and possibly send a letter or two. However, I discovered that the money on my Client Fund was gone! It was removed in February without any prior notice or warning. The note attached to the withdrawal was "inactive account, money donated to children's fund".

I would think before anyone arbitrarily takes MY MONEY of MY Client Fund, perhaps an email stating that my account was considered inactive and if I didn't respond within a certain time frame (30 days maybe?) the money would be taken for the company's "charity cause". Of course I would have quickly responded and let KG know I would be back soon. But to just take the money, out of the blue, with no warning nor any attempt to contact the person who the money actually belongs to... IS THEFT. It makes no difference if the money was used for charity, or for an office pizza party... it was my money, not Kherson Girls money....

It isn't theft if you digitally agreed to the terms and conditions during your sign-up (assuming that they in fact do have this in their T&A). It isn't their responsibility to notify anyone of their pending expiry dates as long as they explain this will be the course of your membership fund if your account falls on the inactive mode in the beginning.

If the money went to a 'children's' charitable contribution, the only thing I can see you asking them is getting a receipt and name of the charity where the money went to and at least get a tax credit for it. KG should donate these monies on behalf of the members' names. This way, everyone is on the up-and-up and leaves no doubt.
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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2014, 01:00:37 PM »
If the money went to a 'children's' charitable contribution, the only thing I can see you asking them is getting a receipt and name of the charity where the money went to and at least get a tax credit for it.


I doubt if it is Ukraine based that it is a 501c3/4 tax exempt organization. Can you imagine trying to explain this to a IRS lady auditing you about your MOB funds funding a children's charity in Kherson Ukraine  >:(

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2014, 01:23:24 PM »

I doubt if it is Ukraine based that it is a 501c3/4 tax exempt organization. Can you imagine trying to explain this to a IRS lady auditing you about your MOB funds funding a children's charity in Kherson Ukraine  >:(

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LOL, But Mam, you don't understand. You see I had these credits. I only wrote to 7 but I was charged just like I was writing to 20 and the remaining balance went to a  childrens charity.
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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2014, 03:49:58 PM »

I doubt if it is Ukraine based that it is a 501c3/4 tax exempt organization. Can you imagine trying to explain this to a IRS lady auditing you about your MOB funds funding a children's charity in Kherson Ukraine  >:( 


No silly Goose. The exemption under IRC 501(c)(3) - is a domestic charitable organization with foreign operations (not given directly to the recipient - but rather from an appointed charity organization). I have no doubt KG donate the monies to a 'charitable' organization and likely under KG's name - if KG's license is US-based. The point I'm making is, why not under the actual person's name?

20-30 % of some significant sum, is still 20-30% value that is legally deductible. $100 from Joe Blow, 200 there, 150 here, 200 from Old Farting Sam, 500 from Delusional Dan, etc...can add to a nice amount of hefty sum...

The key here is, how much money is SM talking about? $1,000.00 is hardly much to worry about, and not only that, why would anyone 'put' a $1,000.00 in a MOB-kitty pot to begin with, right?

Heck, if nothing else, if SM is this uptight about the money, ask which organization these monies went to and feel good about the fact 'it' was actually sent to a good cause. After all, that is what is mentioned in the TofA. I mean, if it's that big of a deal.
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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2014, 04:10:41 PM »

 $1,000.00 is hardly much to worry about,

Heh!

The Wifely One, a.k.a. the EternalTightWadTM, would argue that notion until the freezing of hades and beyond... unless it were to cost her a penny to do so.  :devil:
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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2014, 04:44:06 PM »

No silly Goose. The exemption under IRC 501(c)(3) - is a domestic charitable organization with foreign operations (not given directly to the recipient - but rather from an appointed charity organization). I have no doubt KG donate the monies to a 'charitable' organization and likely under KG's name - if KG's license is US-based. The point I'm making is, why not under the actual person's name?

20-30 % of some significant sum, is still 20-30% value that is legally deductible. $100 from Joe Blow, 200 there, 150 here, 200 from Old Farting Sam, 500 from Delusional Dan, etc...can add to a nice amount of hefty sum...

The key here is, how much money is SM talking about? $1,000.00 is hardly much to worry about, and not only that, why would anyone 'put' a $1,000.00 in a MOB-kitty pot to begin with, right?

Heck, if nothing else, if SM is this uptight about the money, ask which organization these monies went to and feel good about the fact 'it' was actually sent to a good cause. After all, that is what is mentioned in the TofA. I mean, if it's that big of a deal.


Nah, I think Kevin and the Misses just buy diapers and toys for the tikes down at the orphanage.

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Re: Kherson Girls
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2014, 04:45:54 PM »
LOL, But Mam, you don't understand. You see I had these credits. I only wrote to 7 but I was charged just like I was writing to 20 and the remaining balance went to a  childrens charity.


Funny but I'm still hurting from your snapperhead comment  >:(

 

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