Meeting a girl through an agency

[Dreamfade]

Hello I am new here. I have been wasting alot of money on FSU agency sites for last few years and found most if not all have scammers of some kind mixed in with honest girls. I tried joining a couple of marriage agencies to hopefully attract a more real experience - so far it has been mixed to for me.

 I wanted to ask - I have organized to meet a girl in Odessa whom met before a few years ago and it did not go very well I felt at the time.
She did not ask for money but I only saw her with a translator, we went to many restaurants and the odd day excursions all of which were 5 to 6 hours a day. The trip was costly - translator fees of $20 per hour (not unusual) I was feeling paranoid about being ripped off the whole time there so I wonder if that played a factor to. At no time did I get to spend time alone with her. Cutting a long story short I left Ukraine on that occasion still thinking about her and being diss-pointed as there was not intimatcy - I was given her contact details while there  (email and phone) and I tried writing to her is basic Russian and sending sms messages over the space of the last 2 years. Overtime I received the odd one back from her and the odd email (always in Russian).
Maybe I have been a little infatuated by this girl to admit to myself that she might not be as interested in me as I am in her or something else is going on.
I always found it strange she would never reply to my sms or smileys to her smart phone which I send regularly.
I recently decided to organize go back to the Ukraine if anything else -to get her out of my system and in a few weeks will arrive there to see her again this time for 6 days. I have spoken with her with the help of a translator via Skype a few times over the last 6 months and made just some general plans when I arrive.

I feel as I get closer to seeing her again - the more paranoid I get and wondered how other members went about meeting there Russian lady in her city balancing translators and costs ? there seems to be alot to look out for and warnings perhaps?  She has shown some interest in my life via letters but not much as I would expect
the lack of response bothers me to my private messages to her- I am now wondering if this girl is a pro-dater.
Something else that just flawed me very recently - I asked the main  agency for the contacts of the local agency I would be dealing with - they gave me my girls email address....I was shocked and asked them about this and they came back to me and said it was a mistake and that her email was very similar to the local agencies -and after more 5 more  minutes produced another email address that was different by one character...this still eats at me.

Maybe I answer my own question here, the girl is definitely real but the actions and responses seem otherwise or maybe I am being paranoid to much ? Being on the eve of this trip in a couple of weeks I wonder if I should cancel or if I go what steps others would take to ensure they dont waste there time with a possible pro-dater ?

Any thoughts welcome
Sorry I am not always logged into this site but will monitor closely
Regards

[Larry1]

This girl isn't into you.  Drop her and move on.  Here is a link to a thread that contains a lot of good advice as to how to go about this search:

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14615.0

I suggest avoiding Odessa girls entirely.  Sure, there are some good girls from there but odds are you won't find one.  I also suggest not using pay-per-letter sites.  Use a site for which you pay a fixed price per month, such as LuckyLovers, UkraineDate, or Elena's Models.

Since it appears that you are committed to a trip in the coming weeks, I recommend that you start today to develop backup plans.  Go on one of the sites mentioned above, write to some girls and see if you hit it off with any of them.  If so, visit them when your visit with this girl crashes.  Don't waste time.

[Patagonie]

I am sorry for you to see how much effort and money you have spent in this endeavor.
I would be frank and perhaps a little shocking but i think you should reschedule your whole approach of this journey.
For the moment your results are very poor. It is a miracle that you are still in it, a lot would have throwed it in the towel.
So you have this quality, you have perseverance.

Attraction happens between 30 s and 4 minutes. In a maximum of three or four hours, in the most difficult cases, you should be able to figure out if she is attracted or not.

When a girl is not attracted to you, YOU MOVE.

I cannot understand how it is possible to stalke emotionnaly a girl with whom nothing vibrated (for her) two years.

I would like you to contact Eduard or Mark Davies to really go throw this rotten luck and fog to sort out something better for your life.
I would not even try to meet this girl again, you are just loosing your time, your money possibly, and your energy surely.
It is really time to think again about all and what you do wrong from the scratch. Here you will find a lot of material. It would be better to keep your money, learn a maximum, and reschedule all for june or july.

NB : the fact that you spend NO TIME alone with her AND in Odessa, are top reasons to drop this shit.
Don't return in Odessa and forget especially Crimea for the moment (include Donetsk, Lugansk inside).

[Faux Pas]

Dreamfade

Everything you wrote here reeks of you being played like a banjo. What is worse is you are going to do it again. My advice is to forget this girl, she's not interested in you and from your descriptions she never was. Forget this agency and you should at the very least put this trip on hold or get busy finding some other ladies to meet. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Good Luck

[GQBlues]

...we went to many restaurants and the odd day excursions all of which were 5 to 6 hours a day. The trip was costly - translator fees of $20 per hour (not unusual) I was feeling paranoid about being ripped off the whole time there so I wonder if that played a factor to. At no time did I get to spend time alone with her......I always found it strange she would never reply to my sms or smileys to her smart phone which I send regularly....

Yeah...me, too. I always found it strange there actually are men who do this all the time despite never getting a reply back.

Pretty strange, isn't it? 

Based on your post above, does your social life at home sux so bad that what you've experienced in FSU so far is actually the lesser evil? There's got to be a deaf/mute centers where you are with some cute women you can take out to dinner and day long excursions if communication and possibility of any type of relationship isn't that important to you, no?

This way you don't have to buy airplane tickets and bother with other travel expenses.

edit:

I just checked. There actually is a few them around the USA, even showcased here on youtube.

[BillyB]

I feel as I get closer to seeing her again - the more paranoid I get

Welcome to the forum Dreamfade, 


Paranoia will destroya. How can you successfully date a woman if it's always on your mind that she's trying to rob you? From what you describe, you don't know if the woman is into you and you don't know if she's sincere. You should've never planned this trip. If you go, have a back up plan. Most people would agree it's best to cancel this trip and find a woman that looks more promising.

[CDW]

This girl isn't into you.  Drop her and move on.


I suggest avoiding Odessa girls entirely.

My thought exactly from Larry1's quote !!!


And in my dictionary PRO-DATER = PROSTITUTE  - The only difference that the term 'prostitute' is having sex and is far cheaper!!!

[fathertime]

Hey Dreamfade,


based on what you said...it sounds like you are wasting your time....I had a similar experience with a woman in South America, I could see the writing on the wall from early on, but attempted to pursue her anyway (at the expense of other women that had genuine interest)...she was just soooooo damn attractive that I wanted her over the others....it was stupid...don't do that!


anyway...it wasn't too long before I found another woman even better looking that was interested in me, whom I married....if you just gotta see this lady again, have a backup plan in place and be prepared to move right into it.


Good luck,
Fathertime! 

[CDW]

I just checked. There actually is a few them around the USA, even showcased here on youtube.

Being deaf myself, thanks for the link lol but it is very offensive advertising!   Deaf people do not like to be referred as "Deaf and Dumb"  there is  NO way that the website was made by deaf people

[XMan]

As many others have said, pull the plug.  Don't waste your time and cash on this trip. 

Odessa is pretty much scamapalooza.
If you find walking through metaphorical minefields entertaining, it may be a great place. 
Otherwise, not so much, IMO.

If you insist on using an agency, find one that is smaller in a smaller city that has real women.  Good agencies do actually exist, though they seem to be outnumbered by what I would politely call less reputable ones. 

[steveboy]

Don't even think about going on any agency trip! or signing up to one of the crooks set ups. They all stink! They are all scam! Actually any guy who seriously thinks he can find a young beauty queen is probably mentally de arranged any way

I can give you the best offer of your life , my web site is totally FREE for any members of this forum after signing up PM me and I will activate you 12 months Free Gold membership. We have hundreds of new girls  each week registering, I have been about for a long time and know all the tricks in the book when it comes to scammers, you will not find many on my site. 

If you cannot find a date there, I do not think there will be much hope for you anywhere:)