Russians have sex more often than US or UK people

[Larry1]

I came across a chart containing the results of a couple of surveys of how frequently people from various countries have sex.  The specific question is what percentage of responders from each country reported that they had sex at least once per week.

Russia came in third, at 80%.  The UK came in 23 and the US came in 25, with only 53% of people reporting that they had sex once a week.  Well, at least we're not in the cellar.  That's Japan, with only 34%.  I guess those news stories about Japan are true.

http://chartsbin.com/view/uya

I wonder if this is another reason Western guys want to marry FSUW?

There was no data for any other FSU country, but nearby Poland ranked high, at 76%

[BillyB]

I wonder if this is another reason Western guys want to marry FSUW?

There have been a few guys who got married to FSUW, got sex on the wedding night and never again. Get to know your woman regardless of country is the important thing. Even with sex once a week, I'd be very unsatisfied.

[GQBlues]

...I wonder if this is another reason Western guys want to marry FSUW?...

Considering the majority of the WM are in their 60s-70s...doubt it.

[Larry1]

Considering the majority of the WM are in their 60s-70s...doubt it.

Where did you find that statistic?

[GQBlues]

Where did you find that statistic?

From social party pictures, message board memberships, etc...same application that made you wonder if this could be another reason why *western guys* want to marry FSUW.

In the US alone, if we're simply talking about the M-O-B, the combined TOTAL of annual marriages between FSUW/AM is approximately < 1,000/yr (less if you deduct those who actually are ex-pats). Compare that to Asian/Filipino or Latin America, it isn't even close.

Now, compare that to the actual number of marriages in-country.

So the 'statistical' inference that the majority of the men involved are old farts would be compatible with your conjecture.

[Maxx2]

Considering the majority of the WM are in their 60s-70s...doubt it.

Gee if you added the 50s you'd be in that group 

[GQBlues]

Gee if you added the 50s you'd be in that group 

LOL. Married for nearly 10 years now maxx, yes it will age you that much faster.

But if I ever find myself in my 60s-70s and still single, I'll be happy to be single and would likely be happy dating local talents. But generally, the only reason I can see men in their 60s/70s looking for marriage abroad will hardly be because of 'sex', at least the kind we all grew up knowing it to be,  but rather for long term care or the fear of dying alone and no one would even notice for a month or so. Just IMO.

But I'm glad you're forever, er what, 40s?

[Gator]

But if I ever find myself in my 60s-70s and still single, I'll be happy to be single....

Not being critical, but inquisitive:  why be married in your 40s and 50s yet single in your 60s and 70s.  What's the difference?

[Anotherkiwi]

Not being critical, but inquisitive:  why be married in your 40s and 50s yet single in your 60s and 70s.  What's the difference?

His wife may have died, or they may get divorced.  It happens. 

[LiveFromUkraine]

Not being critical, but inquisitive:  why be married in your 40s and 50s yet single in your 60s and 70s.  What's the difference?

It's an interesting discussion and I would probably go with GQ on this. I used to think marriage was a lifetime type of commitment.  Now it seems to be more of a long term relationship for many people.  That type of thought process takes the whole marriage idea off the table for me.

I think, for many, it's the wedding and romantic notions that feed the idea of marriage.


I have an uncle who was married 3 times.  It looks like this last marriage, to my aunt, will be his last.  There were a few times I wondered though.  haha  No offense to those that have gone down that route, but I just don't understand the reasoning behind doing it that many times.  Maybe it's a fear of being alone. 


I don't believe my rationale is based on age but more of how I perceive the idea of marriage.  It's kind of funny because I enjoy relationships quite a bit.  I would rather date one person compared to juggling many.  With technology being better the juggling will be easier.   


I find I accomplish more as a single man compared to a live-in relationship.  I think it has to do with having more free time for myself and my pursuits.  I haven't met a woman that hasn't needed more out of me than what I can give. It took some time to figure that out but as soon as I did I was much happier.


Maybe that will change and maybe I will change.  But for now, I am quite happy dating locally without any thoughts of marriage. 


I think if guys were going the MOB route, marriage is pretty much a necessity for immigration reasons. 


 

[GQBlues]

Not being critical, but inquisitive:

Inquisitive, really?  The operative word in the hypothesis above was 'IF'...so the possibility of being critical about anything doesn't even come to light.

...why be married in your 40s and 50s yet single in your 60s and 70s.  What's the difference?...

I can't even pretend I understood the question. LIU is obviously much smarter than me. Mind elaborating a bit?

[LiveFromUkraine]

Inquisitive, really?  The operative word in the hypothesis above was 'IF'...so the possibility of being critical about anything doesn't even come to light.


I can't even pretend I understood the question. LIU is obviously much smarter than me. Mind elaborating a bit?

haha Rambling doesn't take much smarts.  I do find the whole idea that people would want to marry 2, 3, 4 times to be interesting.  I wonder what fuels that amount of dedication to the idea of marriage.  If we are talking the MOB route, then marriage is always the final outcome.  It just doesn't happen by accident.  They are making the conscious decision they want to get married in my opinion.

[fathertime]

I think if I were single and in my 60s or 70s...I would want to remain single...I THINK...but thankfully not everybody is the same and I've seen some rather happy older people that meet and have happy lives...


Fathertime! 

[fathertime]

I do find the whole idea that people would want to marry 2, 3, 4 times to be interesting.  I wonder what fuels that amount of dedication to the idea of marriage.  If we are talking the MOB route, then marriage is always the final outcome.

having kids is a reason to get married at least for me....at 60 or 70 i don't think i'd want anymore kids...i'm much younger than that now and really would rather not have any more children now....


actually now that the subject has been broached...i'd like to hear a little from the older men that did get married because i'm curious what motivated them.


Fathertime!   

[LiveFromUkraine]

having kids is a reason to get married at least for me....at 60 or 70 i don't think i'd want anymore kids...i'm much younger than that now and really would rather not have any more children now....


actually now that the subject has been broached...i'd like to hear a little from the older men that did get married because i'm curious what motivated them.


Fathertime!

That makes sense FT.  I think we are around the same age.  Sometimes you need to make things happen instead of waiting for it to happen naturally.

[GQBlues]

haha Rambling doesn't take much smarts.  I do find the whole idea that people would want to marry 2, 3, 4 times to be interesting.  I wonder what fuels that amount of dedication to the idea of marriage.  If we are talking the MOB route, then marriage is always the final outcome.  It just doesn't happen by accident.  They are making the conscious decision they want to get married in my opinion.

I can clearly understand people staying married for life. I'm very comfortable with mine as it is and can actually see staying married with wifey for many more years. For me that's a leap considering I really enjoyed my single years...

Now, had I been someone who finds himself single in his 60s / 70s, getting married would seem to me to be in the lower scale of priorities. Especially having to go abroad by way of the MOB. If I have to 'date', get in a relationship, etc; there's plenty enough for me to do that with here. But marriage just seem to be out of the question. To me, that'll be for nothing more than just sheer companionship and the fear of being alone since *sex* when you're 70 is just plain freaking gross if not downright comical.

I mean, let's face it, late 60s / 70s even with Viagra, how exciting can that really be from the woman's POV? LOL. I know, I know....someone would step up in this thread and post some manly-man remark.  So I'll cut through the chase and just say I've always look my age unlike these He-Manly Men. So, yes, spare the thread with these types of silly *I-can-still-beat-my-chest-and-scream-like-Tarzan* comments.

I would imagine sex in your 70s will be something like trying to wipe yourself dry with a wet towel...you're going through the motion but it just doesn't seem to be the way you have done it before , no?

Just my thoughts, so who knows...

[Fashionista]

So... people in Russia and Brazil say that they have sex more often than other countries. There is an easy way to fix that problem. Say that too. 

[LiveFromUkraine]

I can clearly understand people staying married for life. I'm very comfortable with mine as it is and can actually see staying married with wifey for many more years. For me that's a leap considering I really enjoyed my single years...

Now, had I been someone who finds himself single in his 60s / 70s, getting married would seem to me to be in the lower scale of priorities. Especially having to go abroad by way of the MOB. If I have to 'date', get in a relationship, etc; there's plenty enough for me to do that with here. But marriage just seem to be out of the question. To me, that'll be for nothing more than just sheer companionship and the fear of being alone since *sex* when you're 70 is just plain freaking gross if not downright comical.

I mean, let's face it, late 60s / 70s even with Viagra, how exciting can that really be from the woman's POV? LOL. I know, I know....someone would step up in this thread and post some manly-man remark.  So I'll cut through the chase and just say I've always look my age unlike these He-Manly Men. So, yes, spare the thread with these types of silly *I-can-still-beat-my-chest-and-scream-like-Tarzan* comments.

I would imagine sex in your 70s will be something like trying to wipe yourself dry with a wet towel...you're going through the motion but it just doesn't seem to be the way you have done it before , no?

Just my thoughts, so who knows...

I got some bad visuals of 70 year old sex after that post.  Thanks man.   


You do bring up an interesting topic about doing it for companionship.  How much companionship can someone expect from a person who was raised in a different culture and speaks a different language.   That is a lot of hurdles to overcome if it's just for companionship.


Even though my ex spoke very good English, there were many times slang usage had got me into deep trouble. haha  I can only imagine how hard it would have been if she didn't speak such good English. 

[lordtiberius]

People from the FSU are just sexier than us.

[LiveFromUkraine]

So... people in Russia and Brazil say that they have sex more often than other countries. There is an easy way to fix that problem. Say that too. 

Brazil is kind of surprising.  I had always read that Brazil was somewhat conservative even though outward appearances would make you think otherwise. 

[Gator]

My question obviously needed elaboration:

Why choose to be married in your 40s and 50s, and if the marriage dissolves (death or divorce) why choose to be single in your 60s and 70s.  What's the difference?


GQ, I assume your reply is the same as you posted above:   "But marriage just seem to be out of the question. To me, that'll be for nothing more than just sheer companionship and the fear of being alone since *sex* when you're 70 is just plain freaking gross if not downright comical."

You and I have a different philosophy (imagine that).  If companionship and sex were the only variables, I would never have divorced.     Fear of being alone sounds like a maladjusted person; there is a huge difference between solitude and loneliness.  I do not get enough solitude,  yet I chose such.   


I lived a single life for several years after the end of my 25-year marriage.  That was my litmus test.  I was happy, yet happier in a committed relationship.   Psychologists tell us that humans are hardwired to live as couples.  I believe it. 

Regarding sex, you will find out.       A great golf shot still is not better than sex.     Maybe I have too many great golf shots. 

[Hammer2722]

80% of Russians.... My girl says its because they are not necessarily having sex with their other half....

[GQBlues]

I got some bad visuals of 70 year old sex after that post.  Thanks man.   

Visual?!? You mean the 'wet towel'? 

...You do bring up an interesting topic about doing it for companionship.  How much companionship can someone expect from a person who was raised in a different culture and speaks a different language.   That is a lot of hurdles to overcome if it's just for companionship....

That's actually an excellent point as well. So sex and companionship (considering the complexity of cultural differences much less language barrier) during these years is 'questionable', it would only compound the complexity even more so in trying to justify it. Children? uh-uh. 

Love? at 70? with or without teeth?
Besides, isn't love the eventual result of 'attraction'? With or without teeth?
Money? If it is, then why search in MOB regions, no? Just hang-out at 90210 and let it all happen baby...

Any ideas?

Even though my ex spoke very good English, there were many times slang usage had got me into deep trouble. haha  I can only imagine how hard it would have been if she didn't speak such good English...

I concur. But the more difficult part with me before was just those 'subtle' things that aren't necessarily verbal that I found a 'longing' for before from local women who were as aware of our own environmental 'norm'. Then to top all these off is accommodating a lot of her adjustment and acclimation needs and guidance throughout.

Luv wifey mucho bucko, man. But if I have to do this again, just ain't doing it again. But I also understand this is subjective and there are men out there who'll feel totally opposite me.

Being single at 60s and 70s and dabbling in the MOB is just a whole 'nother beast altogether as far as I'm concerned.

[GQBlues]

My question obviously needed elaboration:

Why choose to be married in your 40s and 50s, and if the marriage dissolves (death or divorce) why choose to be single in your 60s and 70s.  What's the difference?..

It wasn't a choice for me to be married when I did. It was an outright decision. I wasn't in a quagmire as to whether or not I wanted to be married or remain single so it wasn't as if I was making a 'choice' between the two. I already was 'one' of the two - single.

Just as your next scenario would show, marriage dissolving won't be a 'choice' either. At least not with me (divorce). Or if death, then that won't be a 'choice' either. So in essence, the end result of either of those two won't qualify as a 'choice' with me. It would be 'fate'.

Now if you asked, and much more in line with the initial comment, is there a difference with a man in his 30s and 40s deciding to be married compared to a man in his 60s and 70s deciding to be married? Then yes! IMHO, a massive San Andreas' fault-like difference between the two. As previously expressed upthread, a man 20 years younger have definitely far more rational and appreciable *reasons* getting married than a man 20 years his senior, IMHO.

...You and I have a different philosophy (imagine that).  If companionship and sex were the only variables, I would never have divorced.     Fear of being alone sounds like a maladjusted person; there is a huge difference between solitude and loneliness.  I do not get enough solitude,  yet I chose such...

I can understand that. For starters, very likely my definition of sex today and even 10 years ago would largely differ with your definition of 'sex' today or even 10 years ago, no? Realistically speaking.

The state of my companionship with wifey the last 9-10 years or so would also likely differ from either your present marriage or the one just previous to that. So yes, I am not at all surprised we're different in that regard.   

...I lived a single life for several years after the end of my 25-year marriage.  That was my litmus test.  I was happy, yet happier in a committed relationship.   Psychologists tell us that humans are hardwired to live as couples.  I believe it....

I don't. Humans are social animals. I'm actually surprised psychologists would even utter those words much less make some silly proclamation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand and recognize the prevailing divorce rate most everywhere. Heck, roughly half of our global population of humans reside in a society where a man can have multiple marriages and/or partners. 'Committed' hardly exist in that sector.

To make this even more gut-wrenching, if a committed relationship/marriage is what men are after in FSU, they should at the very least understand the odds of 'committed' marriages in such as a place like the FSU. After all, what's the ratio of women in the FSU-MOB that's never been married vs. divorced ones?

dasjazzmee

...Regarding sex, you will find out.       A great golf shot still is not better than sex.     Maybe I have too many great golf shots.

My guess is, it highly depends on the stiffness of the shaft.

[steveboy]

I came across a chart containing the results of a couple of surveys of how frequently people from various countries have sex.  The specific question is what percentage of responders from each country reported that they had sex at least once per week.

Russia came in third, at 80%.  The UK came in 23 and the US came in 25, with only 53% of people reporting that they had sex once a week.  Well, at least we're not in the cellar.  That's Japan, with only 34%.  I guess those news stories about Japan are true.

http://chartsbin.com/view/uya

I wonder if this is another reason Western guys want to marry FSUW?

There was no data for any other FSU country, but nearby Poland ranked high, at 76%

100% True!! All the women I have met have been sex maniacs:))) Many in the UK are lucky to have sex once a month Hell Im never going to go back there to live