More Bad News for Russia

[AkMike]

They fled Russia the same as you did.
 Snowden fled the US for 'stealing state secrets'.


Russia is getting good at allowing criminals in for amnesty. Putin gave citizenship to V.Yanukovych and his band of thieves.

 

[sleepycat]

he says what Washington wants him to say

Just as you say what huilo wants ordinary Russians to say...

[JohnDearGreen]

Russia is getting good at allowing criminals in for amnesty. Putin gave citizenship to V.Yanukovych and his band of thieves.

That could be only temporary...
http://tsn.ua/politika/rosiyskiy-deputat-hoche-zdati-ukrayini-poplichnikiv-yanukovicha-yaki-osili-v-rf-393397.html

[AC]

Dear, I am not talking of myself- I am trying to explain why Putin is doing what he he doing. You don't feel him because of mentality

[AC]

A young face of a young Russian soldier sacrificed for Putin's folly:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=647110912063840&set=gm.580726295386462&type=1


Addition: cargo-200 Andriyanov Sergej Viktorovich; 27.03.1994-not earlier and not later 23.08.2014 28.08.2014; c. Sunflower Borsky district, Samara Oblast; v/h 137PDP 41450 (Ryazan) from here (in comments): http://vk.com/wall-33504019_269528 quote: Daria Prosina (03.09.18:46): Medical Certification-this is false. September 2, 2014 We buried a soldier the military part 41450 (Ryazan) Andriyanova Sergey Viktorovich. The guy was 20 years old. The certificate of death, place of death stated: "PARA a TEMPORARY DISLOCATION of MILITARY UNIT 41450"? of? of? of? of? of? of? Sergei died (this can be seen clearly on the external examination) on the documents he was supposed to be on maneuvers in Thule, and the body and some documents about the death of the Rostov region were represented. All of this is questionable, and guesses that the soldier was not in training and in combat on the territory of Ukraine. Sergei took 5 days and very upset and annoyed that being in such elite AIRBORNE TROOPS "did not bother to wash, dress appropriately as a warrior-marine and instead Berz put rubber flip flops. And the question is whether mothers sending their sons to the army of??
 Kirill Kravchenko (07.09.15:34): Daria, the cause of death is what? It stripped, searched the relatives? What kind of damage the body?
 Daria Prosina (07.09.16:32): Cyril, relatives are not examined, because it took 5 days and no longer wanted to torture him. The cause of death, the blind fragmental wound with a direct hit to the heart.
 End of quote. (Translated by Bing)

[AkMike]

Donetsk women give terrorists two months to leave town

 
In Donetsk on Monday, November 24, a protest took place against the lack of food and social security benefits by the so-called “female opposition battalion” demanding that the terrorists leave town within two months. Similar protests demanding that  the Russians leave have also taken place in other cities in the Donbas, Andriy Lysenko, spokesman for the National Security Council, reported at a press briefing,  November 25.

“In the temporarily occupied territories of the Donbas, resistance by the local residents is growing and becoming better organized. In particular, in Donetsk another demonstration has taken place that was organized by the so-called united women’s opposition battalion,” Lysenko said.

“Local women are outraged by the present situation where there is a lack of food and the absence of any social security from the terrorist authorities as well as the distribution of counterfeit money by the DNR authorities that no store will accept,” he added.

“The protest movement activists have given an ultimatum to the so-called prime minister of DNR demanding that (his people) get out of town within two months,” he said.

Lysenko noted that over the past several days similar protests by local residents have also taken place in Amvrosiyivka, Sverdlovsk, Chervonopartyzansk and Rovenky in the Luhansk Oblast.

“In addition, in the occupied towns of Fashchivka, Chornukhino and Krasnyi Luch, where Russian troops have positioned Grad multiple rocket launchers in the midst of residential neighborhoods in order to fire at ATO forces, local residents have come out with makeshift weapons demanding that the Russians leave their cities and remove all their weapons,” he reported


http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/11/25/donetsk-women-give-terrorists-two-months-to-leave-town/

[AkMike]

Former chief economic adviser of Russian President Vladimir Putin and CATO Institute member, Andrey Illarionov served as the president’s personal representative in the G-8, and is one of Russia’s most forceful and articulate advocates of an open society and democratic capitalism.

"Russian citizens have been zombied. It is a fact that many Russians citizens have been brainwashed. It is a fact of life. And it is quite striking to observe for Russian citizens how propaganda can the change the perceptions of millions of people just in front our very own eyes, in a very short period of time. Lets be clear- this (conflict) is war, in the very clear meaning of this word. All these psychological warfares are not just against Russians citizens, but against peoples all over the world. This is Mr Putins war against Ukraine as the majority of the Russian people do not support this war, This war has been in preparation for at least 11 years, I never thought these crazy decisions I heard would ever become a real war. ....and at the very end the plan is to use nuclear weapons on Ukraine in the region southeast of Kyiv. This war has been very long in preparation."

Russian insider says Putin openly planned invasion of Ukraine since 2003
2014/11/25 • News EUROMAIDAN PRESS by *** Babiak

A former Russian insider says he was there when Putin began openly planning the present invasion of Ukraine back in 2003.

At a conference in Brussels this week, Andrey Illarionov, a Russian economist and former economic advisor to Vladimir Putin informed that the invasion of Ukraine has been in official planning since at least 2003.

“Since 2003. I can say that certain questions relating to the future war with Ukraine were discussed in my presence. I didn’t think the talks would really lead to a real war,” he said.

In an anguished response to the Orange Revolution a year later which brought about an ostensibly pro-Western government, Russian officials then began discussing the potential for launching a military occupation of Crimea and it’s subsequent annexation. Illarionov also discussed leaked documents which detail the operation of Russia’s future war with Ukraine.

By 2009, he stated that plans to conjure and support separatism in Ukraine began to surface. It is now known that the terrorist organization known as the ‘Donetsk Republic’ began to reassert itself online in 2008 after then Russian-backed Viktor Yanukovych lost his position as Prime Minister. Created in 2005 also in the wake of the Orange Revolution, ‘Donetsk Republic’ members attended training camps in Russia funded by the Russian Presidential Administration, where instructors from the security services taught methods of espionage, sabotage and guerrilla tactics to attendees. Syncing with Illarionov’s statement, the group began organizing local terrorist training camps as early 2009.

Illarionov did not mince words, making clear that this is a very much a “Russian-Ukrainian war” or rather, as he described: “Putin’s war against Ukraine.” A war he steadfastly describes as being long in the works that will continue to play out in the long term.

“So, they were preparing the war for a long time. The other matter is that it is a long war that has been continuing for more than 16 months. It was officially launched on July 27, 2013, by Putin’s speech in Kyiv on the occasion of the anniversary of the baptism of Kyivan Rus,” he said.

The speech cited by Illarionov was on the topic of Ukraine’s “civilizational choice” and “orthodox Slavic values.” In it, Putin bloviates on alleged “common spiritual values” which make Russians and Ukrainians a “single people,” calling for the preservation of ‘ancestral traditions.’ He also convincingly ignores centuries of persecution, telling listeners that subjugation (“union”) under Russia “changed the lives of Ukraine’s population and its elite for the better, as everyone knows.”

At another point, Putin speaks glowingly of Stalin’s reforms and investment in Ukraine during his first ‘Five Year Plan,’ a disastrous policy which resulted in the Moscow-orchestrated genocide of up to 7 million Ukrainians.

Current conflict zones’ historical hallmarks were focused on in the speech, specifically calling the Donbas “one of Russia’s main mining and metals industry regions,” and Odesa “one of the Russian Empire’s biggest seaports.” The next day Putin would attend Russian naval celebrations in the Ukrainian city of Sevastopol in Ukraine.

All of this, of course, amounted to a cynical sales pitch Russia’s unborn Eurasian Union and reunion with Russia, and to convince Ukrainians the perils of European integration. With a smile.

Let me say again that we will respect whatever choice our Ukrainian partners, friends and brothers make. The question is only one of how we go about agreeing on working together under absolutely equal, transparent and clear conditions.

Numerous predictions

Illarionov resigned from his position within the administration in 2005, has been an outspoken critic of president Vladimir Putin since that time.

Since becoming a dissident, his words to date have been prophetic. In October 2008 he quickly exposed that the Russian invasion and occupation of Georgia in August of that year was premeditated and instigated by the Russian government, when many still debated whether Georgia fired on Russian soldiers first.

In February of this year, prior to Russia’s “green men” swarming into Crimea, he fully predicted the occupation of the peninsula and similar destabilizing actions in the south and east. In March, after this had already come to fruition, he further predicted and warned of impending Russian forces seeping into eastern Ukraine during an interview on the Ukrainian network TSN. Russian Col. Igor Girkin, “Supreme Commander” of the Donetsk Republic, openly admitted recently to Russia’s involvement in the war and told how his special forces group entered Ukraine in April to seize government buildings.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/11/25/russian-insider-says-putin-planning-invasion-of-ukraine-since-2003/

[JayH]

Defense Ministry of Russia: There were no Russian soldiers in Ukraine, but the families of the dead will receive 5 million rubles

Defense Ministry told about payments to families of victims at the borders of Ukraine
November 26, 2014 1:51  8092  13
As reported on Tuesday,261 November RBC, in the presidential administration passed the next1 Meeting of the Council for Human Rights, the theme of which was the protection of the rights and military assistance to the bereaved families in the service.

 
With defenders met Deputy Defense Minister Nikolai Pankov. He discussed with the Board the issue of payments to the families of those who died during the exercises near the border with Ukraine.

Pankov said that the Russian military did not take part in the fighting in the east of Ukraine, but the death toll "on the exercise", he refused to name, saying only that all the families of the victims will receive offset1. .

Now they can count on payments of approximately five million rubles. The sum consists of two parts: the insured sum of 2 million rubles and benefits of 3 million rubles.

The head of the working group of the Council on the protection of the rights of servicemen Sergey Krivenko noted that now in the military changed the approach to payments. They are no longertie-up1 with titles and ranks.

"Basic pay the same, whether ordinary or general died. Remain differences in benefits and privileges, but a fundamental departure from the old tradition when ordinary life was assessed in one lump sum, and the officer and general - another "- he said.

Krivenko added that 5 million payment to the families of those who died in the Russian army during the last month1 for some official reasons - is the amount required by law, and no fee allegedly for "silence", as well as rumors reached him.

Executive secretary of the Union of Committees of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia Valentina Melnikova said that many families of the victims during a training exercise in the Rostov region in the summer of 2014 has still not received all necessary documents to obtain entitlements. Criticism of human rights in this regard representatives of the Ministry of Defense recognized the fair and gave obescheniya correct errors.

http://tvrain.ru/articles/minoborony_rasskazalo_o_vyplatah_semjam_pogibshih_u_granits_ukrainy-378572/

[Gator]

Now they can count on payments of approximately five million rubles. The sum consists of two parts: the insured sum of 2 million rubles and benefits of 3 million rubles.

That is not a small payment.   

For US military members who die while on active duty, insurance pays the survivors $200,000 and the US military pays a $100,000 non-taxable Death Gratuity.   Also, US survivors are eligible for other, smaller payments (e. g., education).

[AkMike]

Whoops, It seems that they can't handle any more of their "victory". Time for a time out.

Donbas insurgents ask UN to send peacekeepers

Russian-backed insurgent leaders in eastern Ukraine have asked the United Nations to send a peacekeeping force to the region as the humanitarian situation grows dire.

Members of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic said UN peacekeepers are necessary to 'resolve the humanitarian and social situation' that has been deteriorating since insurgents took control of the area back in April.

They've also asked for help to implement a ceasefire deal that was signed by Ukraine, Russia, insurgents and the OSCE back in September in Minsk, Belarus that has been violated repeatedly.

Since the ceasefire was signed, the UN reports over 1,000 people have been killed and Ukraine reports that between 5,000 and 10,000 Russian troops have entered Ukrainian territory.

Earlier this month, Ukrainian authorities were forced to leave government buildings in the east of the country because of threats to staff. Ukrainian authorities also had to cut off welfare payments to residents in insurgent-controlled territory because the security situation made it impossible to get money to residents.

Ukraine had requested peacekeepers from the United Nations back in April but was told by Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon that it was not practical. Any UN peacekeeping deployment must be approved the Security Council which Russia is a member and holds veto power.


http://uatoday.tv/politics/don...ekeepers-393715.html

[AkMike]

Kyiv reports drop in regular Russian forces in Donbas
 
Over a thousand Russian soldiers leave Ukraine, National Security and Defense Council

According to a Facebook update on the page of Ukraine's Anti-Terrorist Operation on Tuesday the number of Russian troops in occupied eastern Ukraine has dropped by about 1,000. According to the statement "Instead of [using] regular Russian units, the self-proclaimed republics are trying to create their own armed forces units."

Russia denies sending troops and armour into east Ukraine, despite a growing tome of powerful evidence.

Russian leader Putin similarly denied that Russian troops annexed Ukraine's territory of Crimea in March, but later admitted that they were deployed to lead the land-grab.

Last week, Igor Girkin, a former Russian military intelligence officer and former leader of the insurgency in the Donbas region, claimed he and an elite platoon of Russian troops instigated the bloody conflict, which has claimed approaching 5000 lives

http://uatoday.tv/politics/kyiv-reports-drop-in-regular-russian-forces-in-donbas-393812.html

[JayH]

AK-- I think this is most likely a rotational issue--not a withdrawal.  Time will tell us more.

[AkMike]

Cross your fingers!

 This coupled with the other post saying that the terrorists are asking for UN Peacekeepers makes me wonder if Russia has decided to back out. 

 Time will tell!

[Anotherkiwi]

Cross your fingers!

 This coupled with the other thread, in Bad News, saying that the terrorists are asking for UN Peacekeepers makes me wonder if Russia has decided to back out. 

 Time will tell!

Not possible!  There are no Russians in Donbass - don't you listen to Putin?   

[AkMike]

Oh Dear, silly me I must have been having a nightmare based on reality huh? 

[JayH]

Ukraine has filed three lawsuits in the European Court against Russian government of Ukraine has filed three lawsuits in the European Court of Human Rights and the International Court # UN against the Russian Federation. This on Facebook November 26 wrote Prime Yatsenyuk. "We demand compensation for trillions of losses caused by Ukraine. Also, we have initiated the process of attracting Russian accountable in an international court for violation of the UN Convention on the fight against terrorism. The Russian Federation is funding terrorism in Ukraine, support of terrorists and violates the Convention on the fight against terrorism, "- said Yatsenyuk. # Yatsenyuk

[Gator]

Ukraine has filed three lawsuits....against the Russian Federation.

Any idea how this will be litigated, the likelihood that any awards be paid for the damages in east Ukraine?   My guess is zero probability.

My consulting company provided expert testimony for some of Kuwati's claims against Iraq for damages caused in the 1990 invasion.  The claims were addressed in the UN Compensation Commission.   Some payments were made from Iraq's oil revenues, and I believe this funding mechanism was established as part of the cease fire treaty with Iraq in 1991.

In contrast, Russia says it has not invaded east Ukraine, and even if such were proven, Russia surely would never sign a treaty requiring it to set aside oil revenues to compensate Ukraine.

Crimea?   

[JayH]

Any idea how this will be litigated, the likelihood that any awards be paid for the damages in east Ukraine?   My guess is zero probability.

My consulting company provided expert testimony for some of Kuwati's claims against Iraq for damages caused in the 1990 invasion.  The claims were addressed in the UN Compensation Commission.   Some payments were made from Iraq's oil revenues, and I believe this funding mechanism was established as part of the cease fire treaty with Iraq in 1991.

In contrast, Russia says it has not invaded east Ukraine, and even if such were proven, Russia surely would never sign a treaty requiring it to set aside oil revenues to compensate Ukraine.

Crimea?

No doubt this is a future issue.Crystal balling on it-- I can see a scenario where the time will come of Russia's capitulation as a result of Putin overplaying his hand and Russia being forced to pay.
That would be the ultimate irony-Putin set out to wage war and invade Ukraine in an attempt to break Ukraine( both economically and politically) and as a result it is what could happen to Russia itself.

[AkMike]

BUT you can't get blood out of a turnip. If they're broke they can't and won't pay no matter what any court says. 

[AC]

Ukraine has filed three lawsuits in the European Court against Russian government of Ukraine has filed three lawsuits in the European Court of Human Rights and the International Court # UN against the Russian Federation. This on Facebook November 26 wrote Prime Yatsenyuk. "We demand compensation for trillions of losses caused by Ukraine. Also, we have initiated the process of attracting Russian accountable in an international court for violation of the UN Convention on the fight against terrorism. The Russian Federation is funding terrorism in Ukraine, support of terrorists and violates the Convention on the fight against terrorism, "- said Yatsenyuk. # Yatsenyuk

"losses caused by Ukraine?"  Proofread your posts!

[AkMike]

Ohh Good catch  . I think we all missed it although we understood anyway. 

[Misha]

Gazeta.ru reported this evening that oil prices dropped down to $66 a barrel on the New York markets. The tone of the several articles published on the topic today is approaching panic. It is starting to sink in that this is likely more than a blip. It is truly a "Made in Russia" crisis as one of their pieces put it. Russia will be hit by lower prices that might cost the country half-a-billion or so per day (or more if prices drop even further) and that with capital flight, sanctions and reforms that were never carried out will cost the economy dearly...

[AkMike]

The Ruble is dropping also.. 49.90 to the dollar.

Arrival of a Canadian Air Force plane delivering equipment for Ukraine's armed forces, tonight, in Kyiv Boryspil airport.   

[AkMike]

Bummer Vlad! 


So the main news driving trading on Friday was a decision made Thursday by the OPEC oil cartel to keep production at 30 million barrels a day. That announcement hit oil prices hard as traders expect the global supply of oil to stay high. Crude oil slumped 8 percent to $67.46 in the late afternoon. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/29/business/daily-stock-market-activity.html?_r=0

The ruble went down to 49.52 against the dollar by 12:30 MSK Friday, weaker than the previous close at 49.28 rubles per dollar. The ruble’s rate to the euro has hit a record 61.63.  :snivel:

Russian dependence on oil exports makes the ruble and ruble-denominated assets vulnerable to changes in the oil price.

http://rt.com/business/209659-russian-index-record-low/

Gazprom is so poor that the Russian government felt sorry for them and thanks to their generosity Gazprom doesn't have to pay tax for 15 years... (


http://inforesist.org/putin-na-15-let-osvobodil-gazprom-ot-nalogov/

[Brasscasing]

The Ruble is dropping also.. 49.90 to the dollar.

Arrival of a Canadian Air Force plane delivering equipment for Ukraine's armed forces, tonight, in Kyiv Boryspil airport.   

Our (civilian) volunteer medical teams are now in theatre as well. 

I see Mother Corp still insists on calling Russia's invasion a "revolution" though.

Canadian surgeons reconstruct people wounded in Ukraine's revolution

..."Medical team on mission to help those injured in violent conflict

Dr. Oleh Antonyshyn hauls two large black cases onto a luggage cart at Toronto's Pearson International Airport. He unzips one of them to reveal an assortment of medical devices and surgeon's tools.

"Saws, drills, power equipment, surgical foam, titanium mesh," he says. "All the devices we need to put facial bones and fractured hands back together again."

Antonyshyn, a plastic surgeon and head of the craniofacial program at Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre in Toronto, and a team of 24 other surgeons, nurses and doctors volunteered for a 10-day mission this month to Ukraine. There, they helped mend the wounded from nearly a year of revolution and violent conflict.

Casualties, one as young as 16, were still wearing the scars of the fight to overthrow former president Viktor Yanukovich and then the war with pro-Russian separatists in the east.

"Can't wait," says Antonyshyn, the son of Ukranian immigrants to Canada."...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadian-surgeons-reconstruct-people-wounded-in-ukraine-s-revolution-1.2847053

Brass