Brighton Beach, NY RW's

[viking]

I have seen some references in various posts about the RW living in Brooklyn. Has any one tried to contact them versus a trip out to Russia/Ukraine? Is there a big difference  between them now and the RWs over there (knowing full well that any RW/UW coming here will be morphed by our culture in any event at some point in time)? Can anyone share their experiences?

[Bruce]

I am close enough to Brighton that I can tell you some of my experiences.  To start with, if you go to some nightclubs (like "The Place" on avenue Z and 14 street Friday / Saturday night), and you go to the parties thrown in various Manhattan clubs and in some Manhattan beach (Brooklyn), often at "Sofia", between 11 pm and 3 am in the Brighton area you will see smoking hot FSU women, some that came as kids over the years, some that are here illegally, some on student visas, some on work visas, some on K-1 and running from their sponsors / staying with girlfriends, especially during the summer months.  Anyway, when my wife was going to Yoga class regularly before the baby she met a few Russians and alot of Ukrainians - all between 18 and 28, most of whom were here without proper paperwork - all of them had some angle and my wife could be friends with none of them.  So, as a generalization, there are alot of young pretty girls out there - alot somehow here illegally - and most with tough as nails let me step on whomever for whatever personalities.  Well, I've got to go but check out the Miss NY Russian link thrown at Sofia, in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn by the way.

http://public.fotki.com/fotonews/2004/miss_new_york/

[BigG]

This is a most fascinating area of Brooklyn, New York city.  It is right next to Coney Island and is near our Atlantic shoreline (sorry off topic).

Since I have not been to the FSU, only corresponded with the women there, I can only tell you of my experiences when I visited some of the "hotter" places in this community.

The women are really awesome!  The hot, available women are acclimating to the US culture rather quickly while retaining some of their "internal safeguard" mechanisms regarding men.  I agree with Bruce that they can be tough as nails.  However, I do find the RM to be entertaining, especially when the odd WM approaches one of the RW or UW.

[Bruce]

Now I've got a bit more time..................


When you go on Brighton Beach Avenue you mostly see fat old FSU women and older FSU men plus some younger RW with children.  You also see your occasional black vagrant, Spanish guys working in the fruit stores, occasional Hispanic mom toting 4 or more young ones, occasional Arab mom toting 4 or more young ones and occasional tourists.  Places we enjoy is a store called "Bread" in Russian on Brighton One, a store with alot of books and trinkets called "St. Petersburg" (NEver really liked it until the couple we met had my wife go in) on I believe Brighton two, A CD / Movie store on the corner of Brighton Three; M&I - the food place ie. cheese, fish, sausages, (horrible pastries), all the salads / prepared dishes between I believe Brighton 2 and Brighton 3.  Another really good big food store is right accross Coney Island avenue accross from the Washington Mutual Bank.  I posted a link so you get an idea how "seedy" and disgusting this part of town is.  Plus, the Band Q subway line is right above it so there always is noise.  Still, my wife and I love it for the food and shopping. 

http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/brooklyn/brightonbeach/avenue/

Now, Brighton Beach, Sheepshed Bay, Bay Ridge, Manhattan Beach are all areas of Brooklyn with alot of people from the FSU.  There are alot of girls 18 to 22 who came here when they were 10 -13 in one of those immigration waves.  According to my wife most of the people who claimed they were Jewish at best had a Great Grandfather on one of their families sides who was Jewish.  In other words, most just out-smarted our government and claimed refugee status that way.  So, though there are alot of old Jews around, most of the younger girls are Orthodox - or should I really say Orthodox in name only and athiest in practice. 

I dated a few girls in the past.  As a group they were very fast women.  One was pretty and wanted nothing to do with me.  The others may have been into me but I did not find them attractive enough and did not hang around to find out.  They thought they were really hot looking ie. picked up AW traits quickly.  They wanted a guy who would throw bucks at them.  They were not the kind of girl I was looking for.  I found the girls back in the FSU to be much more family oriented.  How quickly the girls were contaminated here in the USA or if the ones that left the FSU in the immigrant waves were already contaminated I'll never know. 

One good thing for me is that my wife does not seem to run into most of the younger FSU women.  Unless you are in nightclubs late at night as I mentioned above they are tough to find.  Most are working / attending college during the day.   Perhaps in a couple of months when she attends a mommy and me class she'll run into some decent ones.