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« on: July 07, 2014, 07:54:57 AM »
Yesterday I went to watch the Wimbledon Men's Singles Final with a friend - a one in a lifetime opportunity.   I have known him (a deaf friend) since we were in college.  His wife works as one of the security officers and gave out 2 free tickets every year.  Their son couldn't make it so he gave it to me as he knew I am tennis "reporter"

Anyway, he told me about his deaf friend who married to a beautiful Latvian girl who is also deaf.  He also told me that there were some deaf men married to deaf Latvian girls, living in London.   Anyway, this deaf friend is about to get divorce from her because she is very unfaithful to him.   My friends warned him about marrying him for his passport!    The other men were complaining that their Latvian wives has brought their parents to live with them in England.   They felt they have no privacy at all as wives' parents took over.


So, many of you here have married to your FSU wives.  Do they bring their parents over?   If not, perhaps it is because Latvia is part of EEU now?  What if Ukraine become EEU, and they bring their parents to your European countries?????






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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2014, 09:32:33 AM »
When you are going for a more traditional family bond, you should not complain about a strong tie to the parents and the possiblity to take them in to your home. It can be part of the deal.
In general, as Latvia is now in the EU there is less chances of passport fraud, though some will still wish to get out.

There is not a lot of difference in mentality with the rest of the FSU, hich can have advantages and disadvantages.
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2014, 10:15:08 AM »
No, its not normal or part of the deal unless you agree to it before you decide to marry. Be careful what you read and believe. The reason you ask is because you know this is not normal. Trust your gut and go for normal.

It is a topic which should be thoroughly discussed before marriage. It doesn't matter the country. It will be the beginning of the end to the marriage. It is "dysfunction" except in extreme cases.

Some men will hesitantly agree to the living arrangement out of fear he will lose his wife. Don't be this man. If your wife ends the relationship over the issue you will have come out ahead in the end. It will end sooner or later. Better sooner. Of course if man has the "doormat" personality in hopes of being liked there is not much for him to lose unless he decides to change the way he is perceived.


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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2014, 10:23:32 AM »
No, its not normal or part of the deal unless you agree to it before you decide to marry. Be careful what you read and believe. The reason you ask is because you know this is not normal. Trust your gut and go for normal.

It is a topic which should be thoroughly discussed before marriage. It doesn't matter the country. It will be the beginning of the end to the marriage. It is "dysfunction" except in extreme cases.

Some men will hesitantly agree to the living arrangement out of fear he will lose his wife. Don't be this man. If your wife ends the relationship over the issue you will have come out ahead in the end. It will end sooner or later. Better sooner. Of course if man has the "doormat" personality in hopes of being liked there is not much for him to lose unless he decides to change the way he is perceived.
It may not be normal for you, but it is normal in the FSU, as there are no homes where to hide your parents.
So if you say it is not normal, you are taking it out of FSU perspective.
Certainly it has to be discussed before marriage, as finding out FSU women are not for you is done better before starting the adventure.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2014, 10:40:18 AM »
In the context of the question and theme of the forum it is abnormal. You can can twist and bend all you want it still doesn't make it normal.

The parents still have their flat. The daughter is moving out of the flat because of marriage to a man who already has a home or flat for them to live. Does this make sense? ***

*** Unless the entire family is living on the street.

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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2014, 10:51:21 AM »
I guess we are talking about different things here.
If you mean that upon marriage her whole family turns up at the husband´s house, no that is not normal.
But at the time the parents become so old that they need someone to help them with daily things like shopping, there is no denying there is a custom in the FSU that the children start taking care of their parents.
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2014, 01:07:44 PM »
 
I guess we are talking about different things here.
 

Three different things actually.
I have never heard of a marriage between a deaf Anglo and Cyrillic.
I would say it is 99% doomed to fail.

I took courses in and worked with American [Particularly Texas] deaf people. 
  I really feel esp sorry for deaf Brits....
Why?
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Although the United Kingdom and the United States share English as the predominant oral language, British Sign Language is quite distinct from American Sign Language (ASL) - having only 31% signs identical, or 44% cognate.[10] BSL is also distinct from Irish Sign Language (ISL) (ISG in the ISO system) which is more closely related to French Sign Language (LSF) and ASL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Sign_Language

Also to spell requires BOTH hands? ...' more closely related to French Sign Language?

Research the various other deaf alphabets.

If you think a deaf girl can't bitch someone out...stand by on that.


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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2014, 01:17:57 PM »

Three different things actually.
I have never heard of a marriage between a deaf Anglo and Cyrillic.
I would say it is 99% doomed to fail.

I took courses in and worked with American [Particularly Texas] deaf people. 
  I really feel esp sorry for deaf Brits....
Why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Sign_Language

Also to spell requires BOTH hands? ...' more closely related to French Sign Language?

Research the various other deaf alphabets.

If you think a deaf girl can't bitch someone out...stand by on that.
Why feeling sorry for people who speak a different language? It might even be less confusing as some Brits talking to an American. ;D
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2014, 01:34:10 PM »
Latvian sign language and Russian SL originated with the French signs.
 It separated from French Sign Language some time around 1806.
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2014, 04:14:45 PM »

Three different things actually.
I have never heard of a marriage between a deaf Anglo and Cyrillic.
I would say it is 99% doomed to fail.

I took courses in and worked with American [Particularly Texas] deaf people. 
  I really feel esp sorry for deaf Brits....
Why?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Sign_Language

Also to spell requires BOTH hands? ...' more closely related to French Sign Language?

Research the various other deaf alphabets.

If you think a deaf girl can't bitch someone out...stand by on that.

I believe you are wrong about deaf people.

Western deaf men communicate deaf Russian ladies  FAR BETTER than Western hearing men communicate with hearing Russian ladies when they do not know the other languages.

We communicate using "Universal" sign language.   

My ex-girlfriend, deaf 'Russian' and I communicated each other very well without using translation dictionary even though she cannot understand any ENGLISH words. 

I have met many deaf people from all over the world, and we all communicated very well.  I do not mean to understand 100%, but slowly. 

Sign Language is ART and it is very common sense. 

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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2014, 05:54:39 PM »
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Sign language is communication.
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2014, 09:25:40 PM »
They felt they have no privacy at all as wives' parents took over.



Are these men helpless? If they are the man of their house, they can set some house rules and when bossy in laws try to take over, they should remind the wife's parents they are guests of the house.


When my MIL came to visit, she and my wife went and bought new things to decorate the house. Their tastes are better than mine and I told my wife the house is hers to decorate. One day MIL and wife bought a piece of furniture and asked me to take my truck and pick it up. When I got there I returned it and got the money back. I didn't want to look at that thing everyday for the next few years. MIL was upset since it was mainly her idea but I reassured her I like most things she buys for the house but she shouldn't expect me to like everything. Tell those guys it's okay to say "no" to the in laws.
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2014, 04:33:28 AM »
Sign language is communication.

Not only communication, it is also art !!!
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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2014, 04:41:38 AM »

When my MIL came to visit, she and my wife went and bought new things to decorate the house. Their tastes are better than mine and I told my wife the house is hers to decorate.

I'll be very worried as I have very good taste for interior design & fashion !!

About saying "No" not sure if that had already been sorted out as I don't know them - they are my friend's friends.

I had similar problem with my last girlfriend who is from Italy.  She kept on and on about bringing friends to UK to stay for "holiday", but I do not like bringing too many them all the time.   At that point, I was thinking of buying a SMALL house!!!

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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2014, 04:14:05 AM »
These relationships are difficult enough without bringing other adults into it. Yes, it is normal for FSU families but only for economic reasons. I could see some possibility after several years of marriage and only if the situation is temporary where the parents work and get their own place. But if it is about the parents retiring in your home and you supporting them for a few decades, forget it.
  I had a situation a few years ago where the woman wanted her adult daughter (24 years old) and granddaughter living with us as part of the deal. And the years before it would have happened, she wanted me to send monthly checks of $500 a month to her daughter. When I mentioned that her daughter could easily find an American man or any man for that matter, I was rebuffed. I walked away.
   These relationships are challenging and filled with unrealistic expectations where if you add other adults into the equation who more than likely have their own ideas and over time wouldn't care what you thought, you are setting yourself up for misery.

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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2014, 05:27:20 AM »
Let's be a little more realistic here.

FSU gals, and guys and gals most everywhere in the world will want to economically help their parents and other family members when necessary.

Now, next you should consider the likelihood that this economic help will be needed and in what amounts.

You marry a gal from FSU, or for that matter, from anywhere outside the USA and other developed western worlds . . . there is a much, much higher probability that her parents and other family members will need economic help  . . . now and in the future and forever.

Don't try to sugar coat this by saying:  "Yes, but if my parent's and family need help, then the FSU gal and her family will help my family."

Sure; but now consider the probabilities.  The probability that your parents and family need economic help will be miniscule compared to the probability that her parents and family will need economic help.

Yes, you can throw out some examples about her and her family being well to do, even more so than you and your family . . . but again thinking realistically, these cases are very, very rare . . . doesn't matter how much you think or claim the FSU economies have or will improve.

So go into this with your eyes wide open.

Marrying a gal from FSU is going to be very costly, now and in the future . . . because you will be giving economic support to her parents and other family members . .  forever.  You won't be the small exception to this situation.
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2014, 07:00:40 AM »
Every case will be different. If you look, for example, in Ukraine's constitution you can find that adult children are required to care for their aged parents.
 
If you want it simple, find a woman who was raised in an orphanage and has no known family. Chose someone who lived in the orphanage until she aged out at 16 years old. The woman should be older now with solid work experience.
 
Ukraine and Russian Federation still have a lot of orphanages and many of the children never get adopted.

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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2014, 07:08:04 AM »
If the lady earns $200 a month in Ukraine, why should we send the parents $500 a month ? !!!

If the lady marry a local man and live together, will the lady still send her parents money?  For sure, it is not $500 !!!
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2014, 08:06:36 AM »
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So go into this with your eyes wide open
Marrying a gal from FSU is going to be very costly, now and in the future . . .




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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2014, 09:24:02 AM »
Yes, that wide open . . . and wear glasses if needed.

Also, schedule meeting with psychiatrist, just for some reassurance.  Probably a second and third opinion would be in order.

And if you have been recently divorced, get a checkup from proctologist.

OK, now that I am thinking about it . . . a visit to heart specialist would be in order also.

And podiatrist as you will be walking a lot.

Get your back checked out, as you will be carrying bags of groceries long distances for the first time in your life.

A vasectomy is probably in order also, or get a sperm count if that's the way you plan to go.  You don't want to be falsely accused, in either case.

Cialis is better than viagra; for long lasting effect.
And no, it doesn't increase your libido or desire; it only helps increase blood flow to dick when you actually do have desire to increase the blood flow to dick.

And for those guys and gals reading who don't know (and that's about 90% of you), a guy doesn't have to have an erection to achieve an orgasm.  Gals, just use your head to figure this one out.

Probably most of you (except for those two of you) know that the guy doesn't have to have an erection to help the gal achieve an orgasm.

So maybe skip the cialis, et al.

Maybe some coloring for your hair, so your chances are increased of looking younger than your age.

A facial might be in order . . . no, not that kind of facial . . . although that kind is good also.  Again gals, use your head to figure this out.

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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2014, 10:39:34 AM »
No, its not normal or part of the deal unless you agree to it before you decide to marry. Be careful what you read and believe. The reason you ask is because you know this is not normal. Trust your gut and go for normal.

It is a topic which should be thoroughly discussed before marriage. It doesn't matter the country. It will be the beginning of the end to the marriage. It is "dysfunction" except in extreme cases.

Some men will hesitantly agree to the living arrangement out of fear he will lose his wife. Don't be this man. If your wife ends the relationship over the issue you will have come out ahead in the end. It will end sooner or later. Better sooner. Of course if man has the "doormat" personality in hopes of being liked there is not much for him to lose unless he decides to change the way he is perceived.
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We had had here some threads, and some guys considered that the family members coming were the reason number ONE of their divorce.
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2014, 10:53:14 AM »
However guys also have to consider that they are not only going to marry a woman but all her family, put this in perspective because you will have, sooner or later to help the mother, a brother, a daughter.
But inconditionnaly accept to be the supplier, the hotel, and the banker by default of the Noah's ark is messy, a good way to be a wussy and finally filling a divorce.
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Re: Latvian girls
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2014, 11:08:17 AM »
...So, many of you here have married to your FSU wives.  Do they bring their parents over?   If not, perhaps it is because Latvia is part of EEU now?  What if Ukraine become EEU, and they bring their parents to your European countries?????

CDW-

First and foremost, always remember MOB men are courting and marrying women borne of different cultural ways, attitudes and beliefs in life. Whether they be family, religion, politics, economics, etc...So at this very basic core, if such differences are strongly opposite to yours, understand that by going further into the venture you've taken all of the responsibility of it bar none. If things didn't meet your expectation, whatever they may be, because of these differences, you only have 'you' to blame.

More times than not, a small dose of pretty face and double dosage of fantasy erases all recognition of ensuing realities regardless if it was blaring through a bullhorn against their ears.

Not too long ago, halls like these were occupied by the rah-rah crowds when men pop in here declaring they've fully given up on local women for various reasons other than their obvious social ineptness. They hear a concert of encouragement and support, all the while ignoring that very basic element of cross-cultural reality & consequences.

Moving forward, these realities is never about what is right or wrong. It had always been about awareness, or people's tendency to simply ignore it, to pacify their present need/void.

The vast majority of MOB men have little to no idea, much less understanding or acceptance, about what 'follows' their fiancee once they step pass POE. This, despite being fully aware the obvious reasons why regions of MOB are where they are.

You don't fish for salmon to eat only to expect it to taste like chicken.

So, in the end, it was never about 'right or wrong', it is always about reality being true to itself. Always 'know' before you 'go'.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2014, 05:37:47 AM »
CDW-

First and foremost, always remember MOB men are courting and marrying women borne of different cultural ways, attitudes and beliefs in life. Whether they be family, religion, politics, economics, etc...So at this very basic core, if such differences are strongly opposite to yours, understand that by going further into the venture you've taken all of the responsibility of it bar none. If things didn't meet your expectation, whatever they may be, because of these differences, you only have 'you' to blame.

More times than not, a small dose of pretty face and double dosage of fantasy erases all recognition of ensuing realities regardless if it was blaring through a bullhorn against their ears.

Not too long ago, halls like these were occupied by the rah-rah crowds when men pop in here declaring they've fully given up on local women for various reasons other than their obvious social ineptness. They hear a concert of encouragement and support, all the while ignoring that very basic element of cross-cultural reality & consequences.

Moving forward, these realities is never about what is right or wrong. It had always been about awareness, or people's tendency to simply ignore it, to pacify their present need/void.

The vast majority of MOB men have little to no idea, much less understanding or acceptance, about what 'follows' their fiancee once they step pass POE. This, despite being fully aware the obvious reasons why regions of MOB are where they are.

You don't fish for salmon to eat only to expect it to taste like chicken.

So, in the end, it was never about 'right or wrong', it is always about reality being true to itself. Always 'know' before you 'go'.


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