Russian Stock Market and Currency Exchanges Plummet Upon News of Airline Crash

[jone]

In an immediate reaction to the Malaysian Airline crash, the Russian Stock Market and Currency Exchange has plummeted. 

While it is too early to determine the cause of the crash, investors anticipate that the plane was possibly shot down by Russian surface to air missiles and are acting accordingly.

[Muzh]

In an immediate reaction to the Malaysian Airline crash, the Russian Stock Market and Currency Exchange has plummeted. 

While it is too early to determine the cause of the crash, investors anticipate that the plane was possibly shot down by Russian surface to air missiles and are acting accordingly.

Nope. Most probably by an American Jet fighter with a cloaking device. The USAF has been working with the Klingon Empire for the last few years developing the technology.


But you cannot believe what you read in today's extremely biased American media.

[GQBlues]

Reuters already reported it was shot down by the *rebels* using Buk Anti-Aircraft system...these *investigators* are on top of these things, man.

>>The aircraft, which other sources said was a Boeing 777 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, came down near the city of Donetsk, stronghold of pro-Russian rebels, Anton Gerashchenko said, adding that it was hit by a ground-to-air missile.There was no further confirmation of the report, although Ukrainian officials said local residents had found wreckage.

Malaysia Airlines said on its Twitter feed it had lost contact with its flight MH-17 from Amsterdam. "The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace," it said.

Gerashchenko was quoted as saying: "A civilian airliner travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur has just been shot down by a Buk anti-aircraft system ... 280 passengers and 15 crew have been killed."<<

http://news.msn.com/world/malaysian-passenger-plane-crashes-in-ukraine-near-russian-border-ifax

Now why on earth will a commercial airliner fly over a flight path everyone knows is a hot zone? There's been combat planes shot down in the region!


More on Garashchenko: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329

The appearance of far-right activists, both foreign and home-grown, among the Ukrainian volunteers fighting in east Ukraine is causing unease.

Mikael Skillt is a Swedish sniper, with seven years' experience in the Swedish Army and the Swedish National Guard. He is currently fighting with the Azov Battalion, a pro-Ukrainian volunteer armed group in eastern Ukraine. He is known to be dangerous to the rebels: reportedly there is a bounty of nearly $7,000 (£4,090; 5,150 euros) on his head.....Mr Skillt believes races should not mix. He says the Jews are not white and should not mix with white people. His next project is to go fight for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad because he believes Mr Assad is standing up to "international Zionism"....

>>..Mr Gerashchenko was adamant, however, that there were no foreign citizens fighting in the Azov Battalion....<<

Really? A democratic self-declared country allowing a renegade/vigilante armed group to participate in this crisis?

[Muzh]

Now why on earth will a commercial airliner fly over a flight path everyone knows is a hot zone?

Maybe because the pilot thought it was a win-win for them?

[GQBlues]

Maybe because the pilot thought it was a win-win for them?

Yup. He thought wrong.

[Hammer2722]

The question is what are the Russians doing launching missiles into Ukrainian territory? I thought they had no dog in this struggle?

[Muzh]

The question is what are the Russians doing launching missiles into Ukrainian territory? I thought they had no dog in this struggle?

Only if you watch Russian media.

[GQBlues]

The question is what are the Russians doing launching missiles into Ukrainian territory? I thought they had no dog in this struggle?

Garashchenko may be able to answer that, but likely he's too busy killing Ukrainian citizens since Poroshenko's too busy promoting democracy and order over Ukraine.

 

[GQBlues]

More on Garashchenko's Azov Batallion:

 http://www.globalresearch.ca/kiev-deploys-neo-nazi-paramilitary-against-political-opponents-in-eastern-ukraine/5388968


>>At the beginning of June, Yaroslav Honchar, a cofounder of the battalion, was removed from the leadership after he publicly accused the Azov forces of torturing people and stealing property belonging to ex-president Yanukovych’s family. According to Honchar, the battalion is largely made up of Right Sector members....<<

Love this US-perpetuated democracy. Too bad their puppet regime leader didn't make the grade. But fear not, Ihor Kolomoyskyi had been more than willing to step-up to the plate..

http://balkanblog.org/2014/05/18/the-us-killer-mafia-imperium-with-the-oligarch-ihor-kolomoyskyi-ukraine/



    “Ten days before the tragedy a secret meeting was held in Kiev, chaired by the incumbent president Olexander Turchinov [a long-time political ally and business-partner of Tymoshenko; he had destroyed crucial documents in the government's case against Tymoshenko], to prepare a special operation in Odessa. Present were minister of internal affairs Arsen Avakov [a gangster who was placed on Interpol's 'Wanted' list on 21 March 2012], the head of the Ukrainian Security Service Valentin Nalivaychenko [a long-time NATO agent], and the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Andriy Parubiy [co-founder of Ukraine's National Socialist, or Nazi, Party]. Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoiskiy, the Kiev-appointed head of regional administration of the Dnepropetrovsk region, was consulted in regard to the operation [he being well-experienced in violent operations].

    “During that meeting Arsen Avakov … reportedly came up with the idea of using football [soccer] hooligans, known as ‘ultras,’ in the operation. Ever since his time as the head of the Kharkov regional administration he [Avakov] has worked closely with the fans’ leaders, whom he continued to sponsor even from his new home in Italy.

    “Kolomoisky temporarily delivered his private ‘Dnieper-1′ Battalion under the command of law-enforcement officials in Odessa and also authorized a cash payment of $5,000 for ‘each pro-Russian separatist’ killed during the special operation. [That would be over $500,000, lent by his bank to the Ukrainian Government, to pay for the estimated 116 corpses thus produced.]

    “Mykola Volkov [Captain Mykola Volkov Nikolaevich, born 1981 Odessa] was wanted by the Ukrainian police since 2012 for fraud. A couple of days before the operation in Odessa Andriy Parubiy brought dozens of bullet-proof vests to local ultra-nationalists. This video shows an episode of handing the vests to the local Maidan activists in Odessa. Take note of the person who receives the load. He is Mykola Volkov, a local hard-core criminal who would be repeatedly screened [filmed] during the assault on Trade Unionist House gun-shooting at the people and reporting about the ‘incident’ by phone to an official in Kiev.”




Spreading democracy in our world one nation at a time!

[Boethius]

global research is a pro Russian site which repeats a lot of RT propaganda.


On the second link (the blog), Tymoshenko was never America's preferred presidential candidate.

[Muzh]

Garashchenko may be able to answer that, but likely he's too busy killing Ukrainian citizens since Poroshenko's too busy promoting democracy and order over Ukraine.

 

This may shed a little light.

[GQBlues]

So is are most western media reporting only one side of this conflict, wouldn't you agree?

Of course, BBC's reporting regarding foreign fighters and vigilante armed groups is certainly a pro-russian Propaganda, too I suspect?

There's enough information scattered all over in this conflict Boethius that any sane person can assess that sinister deeds are taking place FROM both sides. To deny the existence of one and not the other is just downright being delusional or naive.

I can only wish the very best to ALL of Ukraine's people when all of these finally sees itself to an end.

This conflict is a war between people and entities of power, greed, and corruption. Whether that be a 'nation' or private state.

[GQBlues]

...This may shed a little light.

That Russia is involved in this conflict? Of course it is, Muzh. What's to shed? It's the minions that just keep harping about whether or not Putin is. I thought better of you to not be playing in that pen.

The US, EU, Russia, Ukraine's Orligarch/Politicians, and with the exception of the 3 Stooges, are ALL involved in this stupidity and bloodshed. Folks are too busy pointing fingers at everyone and not spend the time to see and understand this conflict for what it truly is. It isn't about Ukranians wanting to seperate itself from Russia's influence, otherwise the Ukrainian great MAJORITY would've vote for Tymoshenko in the 2010 election. Certainly if the greater Ukrainian wanted to align itself to western principle, it had another chance to vote for that silly self-promoting western-devotee, US-puppet Tymoshenko this last election.

People are dying needlessly. Today.

[Boethius]

No, I would not agree that Western media are reporting only one side of the conflict.

War is never without brutality and sinister deeds.  However, if you have any correspondence with anyone in the occupied territories, you would learn that robberies, kidnapping for profit, beatings, etc. are rife in the terrorist occupied territories.  That is not the case with Ukrainian military personnel.   Many of these terrorists are criminals who are paid mercenaries.


I disagree about Ukrainian politicians being involved, other than trying to resolve the crisis.  Ukrainian oligarchs yes, they have been involved, as it was to their advantage.

[Boethius]

It isn't about ukarnian wantting to sperate itself from Russia's influence, otherwise the Ukrainian great MAJORITY would've vote for Tymoshenko in the 2010 election. Certainly if the greater Ukrainian wanted to align itself to western principle, it had another chance to vote for that silly self-promoting western-devotee Tymoshenko this last election.

A lot of Ukrainians understood, and understand, she is a criminal. 

[GQBlues]

No, I would not agree that Western media are reporting only one side of the conflict.

War is never without brutality and sinister deeds.  However, if you have any correspondence with anyone in the occupied territories, you would learn that robberies, kidnapping for profit, beatings, etc. are rife in the terrorist occupied territories.  That is not the case with Ukrainian military personnel.   Many of these terrorists are criminals who are paid mercenaries.


I disagree about Ukrainian politicians being involved, other than trying to resolve the crisis.  Ukrainian oligarchs yes, they have been involved, as it was to their advantage.

It's OK counselor. We can't agree on everything.

A lot of Ukrainians understood, and understand, she is a criminal. 

Then why release her from jail? Much less put her name on the presidential election balloting? Does that make sense to you? Because it does to me. What ailed Ukraine in the past, will continue to do so despite what we are all witnessing today, unless madness like her release start to cease from happening within.

Guess who supported her release?

[Muzh]

That Russia is involved in this conflict? Of course it is, Muzh. What's to shed? It's the minions that just keep harping about whether or not Putin is. I thought better of you to not be playing in that pen.

The US, EU, Russia, Ukraine's Orligarch/Politicians, and with the exception of the 3 Stooges, are ALL involved in this stupidity and bloodshed. Folks are too busy pointing fingers at everyone and not spend the time to see and understand this conflict for what it truly is. It isn't about Ukranians wanting to seperate itself from Russia's influence, otherwise the Ukrainian great MAJORITY would've vote for Tymoshenko in the 2010 election. Certainly if the greater Ukrainian wanted to align itself to western principle, it had another chance to vote for that silly self-promoting western-devotee, US-puppet Tymoshenko this last election.

People are dying needlessly. Today.

Read it carefully. Look at the date and the time.

[GQBlues]

global research is a pro Russian site which repeats a lot of RT propaganda....

Pro-Russian because it reports things you don't want to admit or have any knowledge of?

Was Ex-Azov leader Yaroslav Honcher removed from the Azov Batallion ranks for citing the crimes the group was committing or not? That's exactly what IS in the report and it actually did happen.

...On the second link (the blog), Tymoshenko was never America's preferred presidential candidate.

Well, sorry you think so..

[Boethius]

By "never", I meant in this election cycle.  Who supported her five years ago is irrelevant.

Pro-Russian because it reports things you don't want to admit or have any knowledge of?

No, because it prints blatant lies, and presents them as truth.

[GQBlues]

Read it carefully. Look at the date and the time.

It reported exactly what Reuters is reporting now, that the militia shot down a plane they THOUGHT was a cargo transport plane.

>>The military commander of the rebels, a Russian named Igor Strelkov, had written on his social media page shortly before the report of the airliner being downed that his forces had brought down an Antonov An-26 in the same area. It is a turboprop transport plane of a type used by Ukraine's forces.<<

Time of the report would've placed it at approximately 6 AM my time.

[GQBlues]

...No, because it prints blatant lies, and presents them as truth.

It reported before about the rockets that hit the administration building was in fact caused by the military plane and NOT RPGs fired by the rebels as Kiev claimed.

It also reported on the link I posted about Yaroslav's ousting from the Azov Batallion for reporting murder and torture being conducted by that pro-ukrainian vigilante armed group on Ukraine's unarmed citizens.

Are these propaganda and never happened according to you?

[Muzh]

It reported exactly what Reuters is reporting now, that the militia shot down a plane they THOUGHT was a cargo transport plane.

>>The military commander of the rebels, a Russian named Igor Strelkov, had written on his social media page shortly before the report of the airliner being downed that his forces had brought down an Antonov An-26 in the same area. It is a turboprop transport plane of a type used by Ukraine's forces.<<

Time of the report would've placed it at approximately 6 AM my time.

Here's some more.

[GQBlues]

?? LOL.

Enlighten me Muzh, as to your point...tough to decipher it from video of a black smoke from a distant. (one video was removed by the owner)

[Boethius]

It reported before about the rockets that hit the administration building was in fact caused by the military plane and NOT RPGs fired by the rebels as Kiev claimed.

There is no confirmation of facts in that case.

It also reported on the link I posted about Yaroslav's ousting from the Azov Batallion for reporting murder and torture being conducted by that pro-ukrainian vigilante armed group on Ukraine's unarmed citizens.

Are these propaganda and never happened according to you?

Again, no independent verification.   

Here are independent reports on human rights violations in Ukraine 0

http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/ukraine


Russian news initial reports on the downed aircraft -

http://ria.ru/world/20140717/1016409306.html

[stilllooking]

For the sake of the families of the deceased (RIP) and for the malaysian people who have now had two plane tragedies in one year, you would hope people could put aside their differences and work together to find the cause (false hope I know).

It's not the first time a civilian aircraft has been brought down in a conflict zone, and knowing planes have been brought down you have to wonder why any airline would still fly over the area, although judging by other airlines reactions so far Malaysian was not the only airline still doing so.

Judging by early reactions it will be a case of all the parties blaming each other and no doubt allegations of evidence being fabricated.