Why failures in online dating occur

[t.p.]

Hi everyone!

I'm Tanya from Ukraine and I worked as a translator for many foreign men coming to Ukraine in search of bride.

I saw some errors they made that caused failures of their international relationships and I wrote a book on how to avoid such errors and have better chances to succeed with finding a Russian wife or girl-friend. You can download my book totally FREE

[Shadow]

Welcome Tanya, your book is interesting material even if it may lead to some questions.
I hope you will stay and be able to answer some questions as well as help out people.

[Patagonie]

Are you sure that your site is working ?
It would be better to put here a valid link.
Thank for your work.

[CDW]

Are you sure that your site is working ?
It would be better to put here a valid link.
Thank for your work.

Yes it is working, but took time before I can open the attachment

[Patagonie]

About your link : it is working at the end.
Kharkov ? i know and like it very much !

[t.p.]

Welcome Tanya, your book is interesting material even if it may lead to some questions.
I hope you will stay and be able to answer some questions as well as help out people.

I will be happy to answer the questions foreign visitors ask as much as I can ))) So please feel free to ask questions, and I will reply them as often as I am on this forum))

[jone]

Tanya,

I enjoyed reading what you wrote.   You may wish to have a native English speaker go through the piece with you.  There are word choices that you might want to clean up. 

I would guess that your target for this pamphlet is a man who is actively seeking an FSU Woman?  Such men are above average in education (although with the number who make stupid mistakes, you'd hardly believe it).

Welcome aboard.

[Patagonie]

Which agencies are worht  now in Kharkov ?
How is the dating business right now in this city, compare to last summer ?

[lordtiberius]

there is no such thing is failure, just set backs

[Shadow]

Tanya, in your e-book you state that keeping in touch as friends when intitial chemistry might seem absent can be a good decision.
I would like you to be cautious with that statement. Many men do not understand the 'friend zone' once they have invested their time and emotions and will mistake any prolonged contact as romantic interest. This can eventually lead to men labeling the woman a scammer or insincere when the woman makes it clear beyond doubt there is only friendship to be expected.
A friendship with an FSU woman can be of great value, if both the woman and the man understand it for what it is: a friendship.
Personally I could make this difference and as a result both received and gave assistance in further seeking the right partner. But I have seen too many instances of men seeing a woman as either a future partner or a dishonest biatch so suggest them keeping a friendship.

[t.p.]

Which agencies are worht  now in Kharkov ?
How is the dating business right now in this city, compare to last summer ?

Kharkov is all calm despite whatever propaganda and mass media are saying. Dangerous areas are only in Donbass. Kharkov is not part of that zone. But of course tourism industry suffered because of what mass media say, even if not all of it is true. However, still some foreign visitors come to visit Ukraine and look for brides here. And in fact many get surprised that situation is not exactly like mass media describe.

Tanya, in your e-book you state that keeping in touch as friends when intitial chemistry might seem absent can be a good decision.
I would like you to be cautious with that statement. Many men do not understand the 'friend zone' once they have invested their time and emotions and will mistake any prolonged contact as romantic interest. This can eventually lead to men labeling the woman a scammer or insincere when the woman makes it clear beyond doubt there is only friendship to be expected.
A friendship with an FSU woman can be of great value, if both the woman and the man understand it for what it is: a friendship.
Personally I could make this difference and as a result both received and gave assistance in further seeking the right partner. But I have seen too many instances of men seeing a woman as either a future partner or a dishonest biatch so suggest them keeping a friendship.

I guess it is just a wrong attitude to either look at woman / man only as either romantic partner or a scammer. Because romance at times develops overtime, and at times does not. You cannot purchase a romantic love with anyone, but if someone did not fall in love with you, why are they necessarily a scammer? I personally believe in good friendships even in case I did not fall in love with a man or if he did not fall in love with me as long as we have good communication.

[sleepycat]

Kharkov is all calm despite whatever propaganda and mass media are saying.

Agree 100%. I went to Kharkiv in May this year and it was totally normal there.
The 'unrest' there consists of a handful of pensioners standing in front of the Lenin statue in the city centre each day.

[CDW]

so suggest them keeping a friendship.

I diagree with you there.  What if she wants lifetime friendship?  Do you really think men travel all the way to Ukraine just for friends!   Many friends lead to nowhere!!

Friends are for Facebook and Vk 

[lordtiberius]

There is somebody for everyone if they are willing to go for it.  And by going for it, I mean growing not compromising your dignity or morals for easy access to Sugar land

[t.p.]

Friends are for Facebook and Vk

I am not talking of necessity of life time friendship leading to man's numerous visits to her country. I think things like this is something person chooses for himself - whether to maintain it or not.. Or just stay friends on FB or email.. However, in my personal experience working as an interpreter i made some really good international friends I was never romantic with but i consider them good friends still. Some of them visit my country for holidays and ask me to be their translator/guide, others only visited once or twice and we just keep in touch on social networks

[Patagonie]

Which agencies do you consider as the most serious now in Kharkov ?

[GQBlues]

I am not talking of necessity of life time friendship leading to man's numerous visits to her country. I think things like this is something person chooses for himself - whether to maintain it or not.. Or just stay friends on FB or email.. However, in my personal experience working as an interpreter i made some really good international friends I was never romantic with but i consider them good friends still. Some of them visit my country for holidays and ask me to be their translator/guide, others only visited once or twice and we just keep in touch on social networks

Tanya-

Speaking of *friends*, I'd like to ask you about this along with other things regarding western men from your experiences...It's good to have a FSUW address questions regarding situations about the MOB. You obviously have a great vantage point in many of these *date couples*, particularly the men, to be able to give us an overview of things from a woman's point of view.

1. Do young and pretty women from FSU really like fat men? So fat that after jogging a half-block they start to smell something awful and start to sweat like pigs? For example, what if a man appears in the airport obviously weighing at least 65-75 kilos heavier than the pictures he had sent to the girl? Will she actually be super happy of this?

2. How about age. Do young women really loved American men in their 60s and 70s but have lots of money? Do they grow up dreaming of someday being married and having wild sex with such men?

3. How about *loners and/or losers* (LMAO! We have a lot of that here). These are what we call men in our country who do not have any friends, male or female, much less manage to get dates. This explains why they are looking in poor countries for wives because those women won't know about this reality until after they arrive here. They are loners and/or losers because of any of the following reasons (or all of the above) bad personality, bad body odor, bad hygiene, bad manners, fat and smelly, mentally disturbed, etc..

Do women really like men who don't have friends because no one wants to be around them?

[CDW]

However, in my personal experience working as an interpreter i made some really good international friends I was never romantic with but i consider them good friends

There is a big difference between working as an interpreter and going there to meet ladies for "serious relationship" purposes.

I have made friends with interpreters / agency workers in Colombia, but it is not the same as going there to meet ladies who only want to be friends!!!

I do not want to travel all the way just to make friends when my initial plan wasn't travelling for friends!

[t.p.]

Which agencies do you consider as the most serious now in Kharkov ?

I think every agency has both honest and dishonest people on their lists.. You can never guarantee success when using any agency as agencies cannot force a woman to fall in love with a particular man. It's all about finding the right lady among many wrong ones

Tanya-

Speaking of *friends*, I'd like to ask you about this along with other things regarding western men from your experiences...It's good to have a FSUW address questions regarding situations about the MOB. You obviously have a great vantage point in many of these *date couples*, particularly the men, to be able to give us an overview of things from a woman's point of view.

1. Do young and pretty women from FSU really like fat men? So fat that after jogging a half-block they start to smell something awful and start to sweat like pigs? For example, what if a man appears in the airport obviously weighing at least 65-75 kilos heavier than the pictures he had sent to the girl? Will she actually be super happy of this?

2. How about age. Do young women really loved American men in their 60s and 70s but have lots of money? Do they grow up dreaming of someday being married and having wild sex with such men?

3. How about *loners and/or losers* (LMAO! We have a lot of that here). These are what we call men in our country who do not have any friends, male or female, much less manage to get dates. This explains why they are looking in poor countries for wives because those women won't know about this reality until after they arrive here. They are loners and/or losers because of any of the following reasons (or all of the above) bad personality, bad body odor, bad hygiene, bad manners, fat and smelly, mentally disturbed, etc..

Do women really like men who don't have friends because no one wants to be around them?

Just like i wrote in my book FSU women don't really like overweighted men or men who have tons of personality issues. Just like a woman in any country would normally not like such men. Of course, if a woman has tons of issues herself she will be happy to have any men.. But not the gorgeous young girls. Speaking of old men with lots of money i guess like everywhere there will be some young girls who are after money. But it would not be super genuine love. There can be exceptional cases when younger ladies fall in love with someone twice their age (common in circles of actors, artists, etc), but it is not something that happens daily.

There is a big difference between working as an interpreter and going there to meet ladies for "serious relationship" purposes.

I have made friends with interpreters / agency workers in Colombia, but it is not the same as going there to meet ladies who only want to be friends!!!

I do not want to travel all the way just to make friends when my initial plan wasn't travelling for friends!

I guess each man hopes for more than friendship when he meets ladies in dating agencies. However chemistry is an unpredictable thing. I understand that there are plenty of scammers in agencies who never were serious in first place, but even with genuine lady you never know if chemistry will or will not happen

[CDW]

 Speaking of old men with lots of money i guess like everywhere there will be some young girls who are after money. But it would not be super genuine love. There can be exceptional cases when younger ladies fall in love with someone twice their age (common in circles of actors, artists, etc), but it is not something that happens daily.

Some men were showing off with their money to young girls, and later calling them "scammers".  They think they can buy them!! WTF!!

[GQBlues]

Tanya-

Thanks for the response.

...Just like i wrote in my book FSU women don't really like overweighted men or men who have tons of personality issues. Just like a woman in any country would normally not like such men. Of course, if a woman has tons of issues herself she will be happy to have any men.. But not the gorgeous young girls....

You mean something like this, right?

 

One would think it's easier to just lose the excess fat than making fools of themselves thinking that if only they can get their *fiancee* here in the US where she can easily see the fit and handsome dudes now surrounding her everyday life, that these whale dudes have nothing to worry about, no?

...Speaking of old men with lots of money i guess like everywhere there will be some young girls who are after money. But it would not be super genuine love. There can be exceptional cases when younger ladies fall in love with someone twice their age (common in circles of actors, artists, etc), but it is not something that happens daily....

Actors, Artists...well, not exactly, LOL. Just your average, insignificant really old men....with relatively more money than the gal from the village of course...

Another thing I'm curious about...I'm sure you've seen them happen likely many times before:

1) What are the reasons why women walk away, or become very cold, or make excuses like work, relative being sick, etc...with men who just arrived for their first visit? Sometimes they even leave them alone in their rented apartments waiting for days...

The men will always say how excited she seems to be,etc...when they first started writing to each other, then when he gets there - SURPRISE! The women doesn't want to be seen in public with these men?

I'm curious as to why or what do the women think in these instances? Can you tell us?

It's really hard for me to imagine this because when I first arrived in Moscow on my first visit, the reception I got at the SVO was exactly like what the Beatles got at JFK during their first visit to the USA back in the '60s.

 

[lordtiberius]

Some people are so d__ cool:

[t.p.]

Some people are so d__ cool:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1d6619

[Drew]

Health professionals now recommend that females do not douche using  these contraptions and formulations.  Internal body chemicals do the job best.  The female only needs to keep exterior parts clean.

[Patagonie]

I think every agency has both honest and dishonest people on their lists.. You can never guarantee success when using any agency as agencies cannot force a woman to fall in love with a particular man. It's all about finding the right lady among many wrong ones


Just like i wrote in my book FSU women don't really like overweighted men or men who have tons of personality issues. Just like a woman in any country would normally not like such men. Of course, if a woman has tons of issues herself she will be happy to have any men.. But not the gorgeous young girls. Speaking of old men with lots of money i guess like everywhere there will be some young girls who are after money. But it would not be super genuine love. There can be exceptional cases when younger ladies fall in love with someone twice their age (common in circles of actors, artists, etc), but it is not something that happens daily.

I guess each man hopes for more than friendship when he meets ladies in dating agencies. However chemistry is an unpredictable thing. I understand that there are plenty of scammers in agencies who never were serious in first place, but even with genuine lady you never know if chemistry will or will not happen

Please T.P., please give us some honest answers. If you don't want to make a recommandation or any promotion we can understand. But please don't give us this popular soap for newbies : "I think every agency has both honest and dishonest people on their lists.. You can never guarantee success when using any agency as agencies cannot force a woman to fall in love with a particular man. It's all about finding the right lady among many wrong ones".
You know perfectly how this system works, there are some good (honest by their intentions) and bad (dishonest by their intentions) agencies. And you know that a lot had been kicked off after the crisis of 2008. But you know also that the number of good agencies is really lower than the bad ones.
Newbies are in demand of good contacts, through agencies the policy is here to have an independant terp (which i HIGHLY recommand), so guess who you can be this terp ? You can be this one.