Looks like all FSU women are unfaithful...

[Obtuso]

Hello I have been reading alot of threads about Russia and Ukraine in a "Pick up Artist Forum" to gather some info on cities.

Several of the members on this forum advise against having a long term relationship with FSU woman because sooner or later they will cheat on their husbands and boyfriends.

"Their hypergamy is constantly looking to trade up, they have little respect for marriage as a life-long institution...
they have a funny view of fidelity, certain forms of prostitution are socially acceptable"

"They are fantastic for short and medium-term relationships, but I am convinced even the sweetest FSU girl would "censored" you over in marriage."

"Russian women are women in the end of the day, are just hypergamous as their Western counterpart, the only difference is that, its a more constructive hypergamy (if you can go that far). Its about getting married and not riding the casserole during their best years. However they will be looking to trade up on you, and even your most Alpha males will have a hard time dealing with the ego of an average Russian girl who moves up 3 points, when she starts living in the U.K or U.S."

"I have been told the opposite from my russian friends (ie. never to date a russian girl). This is because the very second they are not entertained they will go behind your back and cheat on you"

"I wouldn't really trust ANY russian women (I have scr*w*d dozens of married women, girls with fiancees, local and foreign boyfriends etc. without really trying that hard... they seemed to feel no real shame in doing it either)"

"I agree, you cannot really trust Russian women, and they often don't seem to have any qualms about lying."

Well these dudes are all sexual tourists so I think that their perception is wrong:

They aproach hundreds of woman and let's say that they sleep with 20, so they think that those 20 FSU woman are representative of all of them, they forgot about the other 80 women that blow them off!

I don't think that this topic was discussed earlier.
Fellow comrades, what do you think? Are these women all cheaters?

[lordtiberius]

Yeah, they are all like that.  Might as well go gay

[2tallbill]

Hello I have been reading alot of threads about Russia and Ukraine in a "Pick up Artist Forum" to gather some info on cities.

Several of the members on this forum advise against having a long term relationship with FSU woman because sooner or later they will cheat on their husbands and boyfriends.

Obtuso,

I've been to Russia 5 times, I've been to Ukraine 5 times and to Georgia
once. You are getting information about Russian women at a pickup artist
site? Why not get sport fishing advice at a Home Depot? or computer advice
at Baskin Robbins? maybe you would get advice for newborn nutrition at
an auto parts store?

1. Ask these pick up artists how many times they have been to Russia?
2. How many Russian women did they date?

I think you will find the answer is a big fat zero. Therefore they are blowing
smoke out of their @ss.

There is every variety of woman in Russia. They have girls who know
7 languages, they have girls who no kidding asked me if we got to see
the moon here in the USA. There are girls who are cRaZy evil witches!
and they have girls who are angels. They have EVERY type of girl including
good ones and bad ones. Avoid the bad ones chase the good ones.

A pick up artist will have his @ss handed to them in Russia and that's
how I know they don't have any experience

Udachi!

Bill

[2tallbill]

"I have been told the opposite from my russian friends (ie. never to date a russian girl). This is because the very second they are not entertained they will go behind your back and cheat on you"

Obtuso, FSUW are not for entry level daters. Guys who need pick up artist
forums will find more suitable girls locally, you are less likely to have your
organs harvested 

[calmissile]

Obtuso, FSUW are not for entry level daters. Guys who need pick up artist
forums will find more suitable girls locally, you are less likely to have your
organs harvested 

 

[Steamer]

Fellow comrades, what do you think? Are these women all cheaters?

No.
Think of dating women from Moscow to dating women from New York City. They come in all stripes but wear a cup because it can get rough.

[CDW]

Hello I have been reading alot of threads about Russia and Ukraine in a "Pick up Artist Forum" to gather some info on cities.

Several of the members on this forum advise against having a long term relationship with FSU woman because sooner or later they will cheat on their husbands and boyfriends.

"Their hypergamy is constantly looking to trade up, they have little respect for marriage as a life-long institution...
they have a funny view of fidelity, certain forms of prostitution are socially acceptable"

"They are fantastic for short and medium-term relationships, but I am convinced even the sweetest FSU girl would "censored" you over in marriage."

"Russian women are women in the end of the day, are just hypergamous as their Western counterpart, the only difference is that, its a more constructive hypergamy (if you can go that far). Its about getting married and not riding the casserole during their best years. However they will be looking to trade up on you, and even your most Alpha males will have a hard time dealing with the ego of an average Russian girl who moves up 3 points, when she starts living in the U.K or U.S."

"I have been told the opposite from my russian friends (ie. never to date a russian girl). This is because the very second they are not entertained they will go behind your back and cheat on you"

"I wouldn't really trust ANY russian women (I have scr*w*d dozens of married women, girls with fiancees, local and foreign boyfriends etc. without really trying that hard... they seemed to feel no real shame in doing it either)"

"I agree, you cannot really trust Russian women, and they often don't seem to have any qualms about lying."

Well these dudes are all sexual tourists so I think that their perception is wrong:

They aproach hundreds of woman and let's say that they sleep with 20, so they think that those 20 FSU woman are representative of all of them, they forgot about the other 80 women that blow them off!

I don't think that this topic was discussed earlier.
Fellow comrades, what do you think? Are these women all cheaters?

You can always look for ugly, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat FSU woman

[I/O]

You can always look for ugly, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat FSU woman

Contrary to popular opinion, there is no shortage of them in Russia also - something for everyone as it were....

[Faux Pas]

Contrary to popular opinion, there is no shortage of them in Russia also - something for everyone as it were....

And many of them can be quite attractive  Not my cuppa but, I know some

[sleepycat]

http://www.chubbychasers.com.au

For those with this acquired taste LOL!

[Shadow]

The issue the pick-up artists have is that they are expecting women to be dependen on them while they can screw around. That is where they will find RW to be screwing around just as much as they do, and beating them at their own game. And most of them will see that as acceptable from men only.

If your aim is to find a woman that is fully controlled by you, stay out of the FSU.

[Obtuso]

It's like I say: They only attract the bad ones, the ones they sleep with. And then generalize.

I think that they give good information on cities but I also think that they are losers because they don't seem normal people (obsessed with sleping with has many women they can, using "technical terms"), maybe they are not able to have a committed relationship with any woman.

[Shadow]

It's like I say: They only attract the bad ones, the ones they sleep with. And then generalize.

I think that they give good information on cities but I also think that they are losers because they don't seem normal people (obsessed with sleping with has many women they can, using "technical terms"), maybe they are not able to have a committed relationship with any woman.

The best information you can get is which places to avoid.

[Lily]

Obtuso,

On the fora, everyone speaks from their past experiences.

Which pickup forum do you visit, an American or a Russian one?

[Gator]

Obtuso,

You can not stereotype AW and you can not stereotype RW.   So, know your woman.   

[Obtuso]

Obtuso,

You can not stereotype AW and you can not stereotype RW.   So, know your woman.   

Hello, I don't want to stereotype anyone. But the image that the PUA sexual tourists give is that all women from FSU are cheaters and are only good for short term relationships. So I decided to ask the opinion of you guys.

I think that their opinion is natural because if they are sexual tourists they will naturaly interact with bad girls (that exist everywhere).

Best Regards

[GQBlues]

One of the top complaints by FSUWs against the men in FSU is infidelity (notice I said *one of*). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to equate that *underneath* every cheating FSUM is a *cheating* FSUW.

[Shadow]

Hello, I don't want to stereotype anyone. But the image that the PUA sexual tourists give is that all women from FSU are cheaters and are only good for short term relationships. So I decided to ask the opinion of you guys.

I think that their opinion is natural because if they are sexual tourists they will naturaly interact with bad girls (that exist everywhere).

Best Regards

Which women do these guys consider good for long term relationships?
It all depends on the woman, there for it is important how and where you try to find them.

[Patagonie]

Hello I have been reading alot of threads about Russia and Ukraine in a "Pick up Artist Forum" to gather some info on cities.

Several of the members on this forum advise against having a long term relationship with FSU woman because sooner or later they will cheat on their husbands and boyfriends.

"Their hypergamy is constantly looking to trade up, they have little respect for marriage as a life-long institution...
they have a funny view of fidelity, certain forms of prostitution are socially acceptable"

"They are fantastic for short and medium-term relationships, but I am convinced even the sweetest FSU girl would "censored" you over in marriage."

"Russian women are women in the end of the day, are just hypergamous as their Western counterpart, the only difference is that, its a more constructive hypergamy (if you can go that far). Its about getting married and not riding the casserole during their best years. However they will be looking to trade up on you, and even your most Alpha males will have a hard time dealing with the ego of an average Russian girl who moves up 3 points, when she starts living in the U.K or U.S."

"I have been told the opposite from my russian friends (ie. never to date a russian girl). This is because the very second they are not entertained they will go behind your back and cheat on you"

"I wouldn't really trust ANY russian women (I have scr*w*d dozens of married women, girls with fiancees, local and foreign boyfriends etc. without really trying that hard... they seemed to feel no real shame in doing it either)"

"I agree, you cannot really trust Russian women, and they often don't seem to have any qualms about lying."

Well these dudes are all sexual tourists so I think that their perception is wrong:

They aproach hundreds of woman and let's say that they sleep with 20, so they think that those 20 FSU woman are representative of all of them, they forgot about the other 80 women that blow them off!

I don't think that this topic was discussed earlier.
Fellow comrades, what do you think? Are these women all cheaters?

Hi,
We are not a lot here as players (gamers), two for what i know but you will have some naturals and a bunch of successful guys, the type of of you have to put in the alpha range (an alpha is not necessarily a PUA and a PUA is not necesseraly an alpha).
The name of the site you are referring probably starts by an R and finish by an H.
It is even possible that you started a thread about a FSU woman with whom you are writing and you want her to come in US.
I would not consider this site as a PUA site and his owner is NOT a PUA. Me neither i am.
As 2tallBill told you :
1. Ask these pick up artists how many times they have been to Russia?
2. How many Russian women did they date?
It is true that some have gone, but i can guarantee you that the sucess to score a lot of notches for these guys is low.
Some did, do it and will do it for ever. But get laid for an FSU woman is not a project, and by any mean this is a plus for her.
They have plenty FSU men to do it and they generally lower theirs status by fucking with foreigners.
You need to know that the game is quite popular among the youth, but young guys coming in FSU are generally not wealthy, and a lot of FSU women know it.
The real project for an FSU woman is to have a family, to find a man that she will love and can support her (this is not prevent her to work by herself, not at all).
The most beautiful, i hope that you have noticed it, the 8' plus and 9 stay generally out of range of these guys. Why ? Because these women, especially under 30, find plenty of wealthy men in the local market, speaking their language, understanding their culture, and these FSU men, are really generous, in accordance to the culture. The market for the 9's in FSU is quite open, they can date internationnaly but they would be generally harshly selective.
And as a lot of guys have noticed, on both forums :  in the game, FSU women are quite superiors to their western counterparts.
If they decided to play they are quite good.
Western women in the game = marchroutkas' drivers
Eastern women in the game = F1's drivers.

To come back to your question, if you dig the forum, a survey had been done.
To make short, marriages endure longer than the average time of the western ones, provided that the time granted to the dating time is long. The ones' week brides are the ones who are suffering the bigger rate or divorce.

If you are the one who wrote this topic about "?" who is writing a FSU woman and want her to come in US. Tell us, there are plenty of fellows here who can give you nice comments.
You have come to the right forum, as soon as it is about a serious project, spending time to fuck around has plenty of qualities, but this not a serious project, i mean for a woman.

[Obtuso]

Hi,
We are not a lot here as players (gamers), two for what i know but you will have some naturals and a bunch of successful guys, the type of of you have to put in the alpha range (an alpha is not necessarily a PUA and a PUA is not necesseraly an alpha).
The name of the site you are referring probably starts by an R and finish by an H.
It is even possible that you started a thread about a FSU woman with whom you are writing and you want her to come in US.
I would not consider this site as a PUA site and his owner is NOT a PUA. Me neither i am.
As 2tallBill told you :
1. Ask these pick up artists how many times they have been to Russia?
2. How many Russian women did they date?
It is true that some have gone, but i can guarantee you that the sucess to score a lot of notches for these guys is low.
Some did, do it and will do it for ever. But get laid for an FSU woman is not a project, and by any mean this is a plus for her.
They have plenty FSU men to do it and they generally lower theirs status by fucking with foreigners.
You need to know that the game is quite popular among the youth, but young guys coming in FSU are generally not wealthy, and a lot of FSU women know it.
The real project for an FSU woman is to have a family, to find a man that she will love and can support her (this is not prevent her to work by herself, not at all).
The most beautiful, i hope that you have noticed it, the 8' plus and 9 stay generally out of range of these guys. Why ? Because these women, especially under 30, find plenty of wealthy men in the local market, speaking their language, understanding their culture, and these FSU men, are really generous, in accordance to the culture. The market for the 9's in FSU is quite open, they can date internationnaly but they would be generally harshly selective.
And as a lot of guys have noticed, on both forums :  in the game, FSU women are quite superiors to their western counterparts.
If they decided to play they are quite good.
Western women in the game = marchroutkas' drivers
Eastern women in the game = F1's drivers.

To come back to your question, if you dig the forum, a survey had been done.
To make short, marriages endure longer than the average time of the western ones, provided that the time granted to the dating time is long. The ones' week brides are the ones who are suffering the bigger rate or divorce.

If you are the one who need wrote this topic about "?" wrote to a FSU woman and want her to come in US. Tell us, there are plenty of fellows here who can give you nice comments.
You have come to the right forum, as soon as it is about a serious project, spending time to fuck around has plenty of qualities, but this not a serious project, i mean for a woman.

Hello Patagonie, no I was not the one that started a thread about bringing a woman to USA, I'm not even American.

Thank you for the time you took to write your post.

[Misha]

Hello I have been reading alot of threads about Russia and Ukraine in a "Pick up Artist Forum"

Pretty much stopped reading after this. The fact is that all encompassing generalizations are invariably false and if the goal is to find one woman with whom to spend the rest of your life, then get to know the woman and her character as well as life goals, priorities, etc... Each woman is unique and will invariably drive you batty in her own special way 

[Isthmus]

Reading the ramblings of overly promiscuous men whose main aim in life is to pick up women and the women they do pickup are often the female versions of themselves means that their insights are of fairly limited relevance to normal folks in any society (not just the FSU).

[Obtuso]

Reading the ramblings of overly promiscuous men whose main aim in life is to pick up women and the women they do pickup are often the female versions of themselves means that their insights are of fairly limited relevance to normal folks in any society (not just the FSU).

After thinking about that, I have the same opinion.

Regards

[Patagonie]

Reading the ramblings of overly promiscuous men whose main aim in life is to pick up women and the women they do pickup are often the female versions of themselves means that their insights are of fairly limited relevance to normal folks in any society (not just the FSU).

-50
You have to separate the sexual tourists who have thaught that the game will be a screwdriver which will help them to the pussy paradise and the normal course of many guys who have been on the road of seduction (provided that they have stick on it for a long time and that they have some life maturity) which means a continuous way of improvement with a lot of bumps. In one word those guys have gone through a hard way of self development.  You can have some wings to help you, the community and many forums are available to help you, some really good stuff had been written, but the truth is that many time you are alone and you have to assess yourself by yourself.
This is not only  modifying their attractiveness, or exchanges with women, but also their complete life in term of beliefs. It has also benefits in the social life and professional life.
For example the fear of rejection and the shame are two importants topics which prevent you to dare a lot of things, it puts on you a lot of psychological, personal and  social fences.
So for all these reasons their insights are far more relevant than a lot of folks in terms of women/men dynamics.

[Lily]

 
The most beautiful, i hope that you have noticed it, the 8' plus and 9 stay generally out of range of these guys. Why ? Because these women, especially under 30, find plenty of wealthy men in the local market, speaking their language, understanding their culture, and these FSU men, are really generous, in accordance to the culture. The market for the 9's in FSU is quite open, they can date internationnaly but they would be generally harshly selective.
And as a lot of guys have noticed, on both forums :  in the game, FSU women are quite superiors to their western counterparts.
If they decided to play they are quite good.
Western women in the game = marchroutkas' drivers
Eastern women in the game = F1's drivers.

 

Bien sur 

As for the beautiful RW under 30, they are many, they are all pretty and smart and there is a helluva lot of competition among them for the few eligible men.