Dental work in FSU

[Jack]

Hey Bruce, read a comment you made about bringing your sister-in-law to the states for dental work under the sending money home thread.

I do not know what city she is in but have you checked her city or surrounding bigger cities for quality dental care? You know they do have some fine dentist's in the FSU.

The dentist I use in Kiev is also used by some Ukraine movie stars, and famous singers. He came recommended and I used him. Since I was so pleased with his work my wife has had her dental work done by him as well as a few other guys I know from the states.

My dentist here in the states was going to charge me about $2400 for some dental work. This dentist in Kiev charged $260 and with a $40 tip it cost me $300. I am very pleased with his work.

I think if you look around you may find some quality dental care in her area and they will probably charge more than the so-so denistry were trying to avoid. Worse case it will probably be much cheaper for her to take train to Kiev.

[Bruce]

I am sure they have quality dentists in Moscow like they do in Kiev.  The question that comes to mind is whether her parents will even let her go to a dentist in Moscow, since they feel they have excellent dental care in Tver.   They honestly feel their dental care is fine.  Perception is the biggest hurdle for me.  I am not one to start family squables - so if my wife's sister comes to the USA again I'll get her to a dentist.  If she does not - then she will get the opinion of their local dentists, which I tend to question based on my wife's mouth full of cavities when she got here.  Of course getting her to go to Moscow for a check-up / fillings is alot easier than getting the sister to go to the USA. 

[Frank]

Hi Jack,

 

Could you tell me who your dentist is in Kiev?  I have been looking for a good one there.  Thank's, Frank.

[Jack]

Sure Frank

Anatoliy Berezkin. His phone is +38 (044) 2867604

[Frank]

Thanks Jack!

[KenC]

I know that Jack swears by his Ukrainian dentist, but all the work performed by my wife's Russian dentist had to be redone here in America.  She didn't go to a "free" dentist either.  The American dentist said that the work was fine, but the materials used were substandard.

KenC

[Donna_Pedro]

Well, it depends on what dentist  you are using.  There are a bunch of very expensive dental clinics in Moscow, where the prices are compatable with USA, so is the quality  of work, but  you would not even  compare the quality "free" clinics provide.  

[KenC]

Hey Donna,

Welcome!! Glad to see you show up here.

KenC

[jb]

Hi folks,

I have to concur, there are some very good dentists in the FSU, my wife's doctor here has remarked on the fine quality of her dental work done in Moscow.  I'm seriously considering having some work done this summer when we go back for a visit.

(and,,, no, I wasn't thinking of getting two big gold caps in the front)

[BC]

(and,,, no, I wasn't thinking of getting two big gold caps in the front)

Last time I visited, besides a mouthful of gold teeth that should have been locked up in Ft. Knox, saw one woman with silver teeth like that big guy in the Bond film.  Was it silver? stainless steel? maybe platinum? (I was afraid to ask)

Regarding dentists, we found a real good one there that is booked far in advance with many patients from the west. It's almost like getting a free trip.

[Jack]

"it's almost like getting a free trip."
 
Well, your right about that BC.
 
The money my wife and myself have saved by using our dentist in Kiev over our American dentist paid for not one, but both airline tickets. And not one trip, but two trips. We will arrange in advance to see our dentist, he knows we are coming. After being picked-up at Borispol we are taken straight to the dentist office where the work begins. Sometimes we might come back the next day, or two, sometimes in a week, or sometimes in two weeks, all depending on the work done and our schedules. And if you are a man who has plans to see some fine FSU ladies and do some dental work, you had best wait towards the end of your trip.
 
BUT as Ken and others have referred to, their are some bad dentist in the FSU as well. You have to be able to separate the good dentist from the bad dentist or you will find yourself up a creek with no paddle.

[300spartans]

 KenC,
 I hope WM have noted your inconspicuous comment about getting your wife's dentistry work redone in the states. For many men, this cost could be crippling. I have heard of one western man saddled with a quote for over $20,000 to repair shoddy Ukraine dentistry.

 Nobody has mentioned this so here goes. Many people in the FSU including women in their twenties have very bad teeth, and other health problems such as lumps in the lungs. WM take note and check your bank balance, ensure there are many, many zeros and it is a credit balance before even buying an air ticket for your first FSU visit. If you are a one-week wonder you will be forking out for the teeth repairs within the FSU pretty quickly, otherwise you will be accused of not loving her enough. Then in the west, it might all have to be done again.

 300spartans

[2tallbill]

I know that Jack swears by his Ukrainian dentist, but all the work performed by my wife's Russian dentist had to be redone here in America.  She didn't go to a "free" dentist either.  The American dentist said that the work was fine, but the materials used were substandard.

KenC

I've spent thousands and thousands on dental work for Angel Eyes. I would
get the work done in the West.

Udachi!
Bill

[Trenchcoat]

Nobody has mentioned this so here goes. Many people in the FSU including women in their twenties have very bad teeth, and other health problems such as lumps in the lungs. WM take note and check your bank balance, ensure there are many, many zeros and it is a credit balance before even buying an air ticket for your first FSU visit. If you are a one-week wonder you will be forking out for the teeth repairs within the FSU pretty quickly, otherwise you will be accused of not loving her enough.

This is true enough even today, some young FSW can have bad health and/or teeth problems and to be honest the cost is likely to fall your way at least in part of you date then for any significant time as how long can you put up with your woman whaling on about her increasing pain she is feeling from this, that or the other. If you're on dates then it can not make the date so great if she is suffering pain and to be honest I wouldn't like to have to suffer pain from health or teeth for any length of time.

So definitely ask yourself with any FSW with bad teeth or health problems if you are prepared to pitch in for it. It should of course be you volunteering rather than her asking if not married otherwise it's not a good scene. Private Dentistry and Healthcare in Ukraine can be good, even high quality at a cheaper price than in the West these days and a lot of shoddy materials or work I get the impression is no longer common place if at all since the days the above reviews were written, I can't guarantee anything though. In general with all dentistry if you're looking for a cheap high quality job done in Ukraine you have to ask if enough work needs to be done to make the flight and accommodation costs etc worthwhile, unless you are going there anyway.

Health treatment is probably the biggest cost savings for most westerners going to Ukraine for cheaper private treatment than private health care treatment in the West. Ukraine has some very highly trained specialists in healthcare and a lot of treatments & operations can be done very well out there although best to check what they are good in and anything not so good in. In general though Ukraine clinics and dental practices can use some very modern equipment. I don't think the case of work having to be redone in the West for dentistry is now often the case, stuff has moved on.

In general I think Ukraine is a better choice for healthcare & dentistry than Turkey. Turkey I see as increasingly expensive as it's got a reputation for health tourism so the prices have been getting bumped up now. Turkey if anything can have some dodgy practitioners for health and bad news stories are abound. If not fancying chancing the current bombings of Ukraine then Moldova is a possibility, I don't think they are quite as good on Healthcare & Dentistry as Ukraine but they are often not too bad in general.

Anyway, Ukraine and parts of Belarus & Russia near Chernobyl were pretty badly effected by the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in 1986 and have been so since I think. It takes around 50 years for radiation to reach negligible levels so for the past nearly 40 years many people have been effected badly across Ukraine as the toxic radioactive particles dumped all across Ukraine, Belarus & small part of Russia by the wind. Other causes of bad health in FSW can be industrial polluters as industrial waste is dumped out in the environment to save money so the rich industry capitalists can make more money. They pay off any oversight body so there is often in practice little restriction on them doing it. So people go swimming in it in lakes and rivers then wonder a few years later why they are getting lumps here and there, but yeah good on the poster quoted here for mentioning this point about even young FSW with bad health & teeth problems as he is right it's not something that is mentioned much but it's a very real problem out there.