It appears you have not registered with our community. To register please click here ...

!!

Welcome to Russian Women Discussion - the most informative site for all things related to serious long-term relationships and marriage to a partner from the Former Soviet Union countries!

Please register (it's free!) to gain full access to the many features and benefits of the site. Welcome!

+-

Author Topic: Heading for Crimea  (Read 7467 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Wayne

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 939
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Looking 1-2 years
  • Trips: None (yet)
Heading for Crimea
« on: September 05, 2014, 11:30:57 AM »
I am leaving tomorrow morning. It is four flights altogether to get there. My wife will pick me up at the airport with our car. Wish me luck!

Offline Manny

  • Commercial Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 689
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2014, 01:03:51 PM »
A friend of mine was there last week, he said all was calm You will have no problems. You are in Russia now.  ;)

Offline Faux Pas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10232
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: No Selection
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 02:59:09 PM »
A friend of mine was there last week, he said all was calm You will have no problems. You are in Russia now.  ;)

Ah, snuggled in the bosom of Mother Russia, eh Manny?  :rolleyes:

Offline Chelseaboy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1795
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 3-5 years
  • Trips: 1 - 3
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 04:00:37 PM »
Well,you'll have the beaches to yourself.

Manny would know that of course,as he claimed he and his wife would be holidaying there this summer now Russia has stolen it. ;)
Just saying it like it is.

Offline GQBlues

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11752
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: None (yet)
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 04:11:51 PM »
...You are in Russia now.  ;)

That's true. I may have to talk with my wife about the possibility of buying a waterfront property there now before the improvements start to pour in. Now that it is free of Kiev's corruption, this may not be such a bad idea.
Quote from: msmob
1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

Offline Anotherkiwi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4089
  • Country: nz
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Looking 1-2 years
  • Trips: 1 - 3
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2014, 06:54:31 PM »
I may have to talk with my wife about the possibility of buying a waterfront property there now before the improvements start to pour in. Now that it is free of Kiev's corruption...

Now you only have to worry about Russia's corruption, at three times the price!

Offline AC

  • Banned Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2321
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 1-2 years
  • Trips: 1 - 3
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2014, 08:29:45 PM »
That's true. I may have to talk with my wife about the possibility of buying a waterfront property there now before the improvements start to pour in. Now that it is free of Kiev's corruption, this may not be such a bad idea.


And if you believe that Russia enforces rule of law and property rights for Westerners; please do.

Offline Faux Pas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10232
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: No Selection
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2014, 09:21:17 PM »
Now you only have to worry about Russia's corruption, at three times the price!

+1 And the luxury of living under Putin's yolk. Ain't life grand?

Offline BillyB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16105
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Ukraine
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2014, 09:42:27 PM »
free of Kiev's corruption,



Crimea is now in the hands of the country Kiev/Ukraine just freed itself from. That's no reason to celebrate.
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

Offline Manny

  • Commercial Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 689
  • Country: gb
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2014, 08:04:18 AM »
Crimea is now in the hands of the country Kiev/Ukraine just freed itself from. That's no reason to celebrate.

Yes, here are some people in Crimea, um... not celebrating after reunification with Russia.




Offline GQBlues

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11752
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: None (yet)
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2014, 08:50:17 AM »
Now you only have to worry about Russia's corruption, at three times the price!


Corruption in Russia? LMAO!

I bought and owned properties, and one acquired with my wife in the good ol' USA; prior to, and during the following...2008 Financial Meltdown, ARRA, Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, ACORN,*UAW Bail-outs, Maddox, IRS, VA, Solyndra, Obamacare, etc...

- Grand corruption is defined as corruption occurring at the highest levels of government in a way that requires significant subversion of the political, legal and economic systems.....

-  * : UNIONSLabor racketeering is the domination, manipulation, and control of a labor movement in order to affect related businesses and industries. It can lead to the denial of workers’ rights and inflicts an economic loss on the workers, business, industry, insurer, or consumer.

The historical involvement of La Cosa Nostra in labor racketeering has been thoroughly documented: More than one-third of the 58 members arrested in 1957 at the Apalachin conference in New York listed their employment as “labor” or “labor-management relations.” Three major U.S. Senate investigations have documented La Cosa Nostra’s involvement in labor racketeering. One of these, the McClellan Committee, in the late-1950s, found systemic racketeering in both the International Brotherhood of Teamsters and the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union. In 1986, the President’s Council on Organized Crime reported that five major unions—including the Teamsters and the Laborers International Union of North America—were dominated by organized crime. In the early 1980s, former Gambino Family Boss Paul Castellano was overheard saying, “Our job is to run the unions.”

Labor unions provide a rich source for organized criminal groups to exploit: their pension, welfare, and health funds. There are approximately 75,000 union locals in the U.S., and many of them maintain their own benefit funds. In the mid-1980s, the Teamsters controlled more than 1,000 funds with total assets of more than $9 billion.

The FBI currently has several investigative techniques to root out labor law violations: electronic surveillance, undercover operations, confidential sources, and victim interviews. They also have numerous criminal and civil statutes to use at their disposal, primarily through the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization (RICO) Statute. Citation needed

The Teamsters are the best example of how efficiently the civil RICO process can be used. For decades, the Teamsters has been substantially controlled by La Cosa Nostra. In recent years, four of eight Teamster presidents were indicted, yet the union continued to be controlled by organized crime elements. The government has been fairly successful at removing the extensive criminal influence from this 1.4 million-member union by using the civil process...


Who is/was the biggest donor/supporter of our current administration? Who is now one of the biggest recipient of this current administration? LMAO!

- Whatever happened to that 300 billion fund that was separate from the Stim Bill and was supposed to be used to rescue the upside-down homeowners from foreclosing?...yup, poof ~

If it's corruption I should be worried about, LOL, the US wrote the books on such 'in-your-face' type corruption.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2014, 10:02:48 AM by GQBlues »
Quote from: msmob
1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

Offline AC

  • Banned Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2321
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 1-2 years
  • Trips: 1 - 3
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2014, 05:43:54 PM »
Yes, here are some people in Crimea, um... not celebrating after reunification with Russia.


You might as well also post some photos of Germans celebrating back in 1938 when a part of Czechoslovakia was annexed and given back to Germany.  Plenty of fools celebrated that event as well.   :clapping:

Offline AC

  • Banned Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2321
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 1-2 years
  • Trips: 1 - 3
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2014, 05:50:36 PM »
That's true. I may have to talk with my wife about the possibility of buying a waterfront property there now before the improvements start to pour in. Now that it is free of Kiev's corruption, this may not be such a bad idea.

I wonder if 76 years ago some wealthy Germans thought about buying land in the area of Czechoslovakia annexed by Hitler?  Considering that according to you the USA is a warmongering country which got Ukraine into this mess, perhaps the USA will live up to your ideals and free Crimea from Russia and give it back to it's rightful owner -- Ukraine, or perhaps directly to the Tatars. 

Online krimster2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7336
  • Country: us
  • He/Him
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: Resident
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2014, 06:49:37 PM »
For all ya’all thinkin’ about movin’ to Crimea, let someone who did the beach front property thing and lived there for 3 years (2004-2007) give you some advice!

Fuhgetaboutit!

I could bombard you with stories of neighbors throwing garbage out their windows, the fact that you can’t park your car on the street unattended without it being stolen, the necessity of having bars on every window of your house and massive steel doors, of broken vodka bottles and needles on school yards, I could tell you page after page of this, but you still wouldn’t get it...
It’s a totally broken culture filled with people who don’t respect anything, least of all you!
So my advice, get used to shoving old ladies in line at kiosks, because they sure as hell are gonna shove you! Hope you never get sick and need a doctor/hospital there either,  also hope you don’t have an emergency and the banks (the few that there are now) shutdown or “little green men” don’t suddenly appear on your corner saying “dvai propiska”! to you!

don’t you have any clue how desperate people are to leave there, but can’t?
and you seriously want to live there??  my only question is why?

GQBlues, I get it that you’re a die hard republikan, we live in a democracy, freedom of thought and expression goes a long with that, but let me exercise these rights as well.

The Teamsters did a lot of good for American workers, a lot of the benefits that workers take for granted today were actually a direct result of the teamsters actions, the teamsters went through their period of manipulation by organized crime, but that was mostly over with by the time you were born, thanks to the FBI.

To say that the US “wrote the book on 'in-your-face' type corruption” is laughable.  The US government has actually stamped out such corruption, the most recent being republikan senator Tom Delay who went to prison for it.

Not to say corruption doesn still exist in the USA, it does, they’re called bankers now...

But Russia is a whole different ball game.

Did you read about Obama’s “Dacha”, you didn’t?  You know why?  There isn’t one!
Google “putin’s dacha” and see the difference

for anybody actually dunmb enough or crazy enough to move to Crimea like I was 10 years ago, well, good luck to you, you’re gonna need it, especially now, I’m sure Americans and Europeans will be “warmly” welcomed in Crimea, just check out Sevastopolski Bike Rally for confirmation of what I'm telling you




Offline Chelseaboy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1795
  • Country: england
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: Looking 3-5 years
  • Trips: 1 - 3
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2014, 07:10:55 PM »
But but...it will all be different in Crimea now...Russia stole the land,so now it will be a paradise..LMAO.

Manny and GQ know best  ;D

 
Just saying it like it is.

Offline Jumper

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3755
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Ukraine
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2014, 10:00:38 AM »
A friend of mine was there last week, he said all was calm You will have no problems. You are in Russia now.  ;)
politics completely aside...as that seems the least of waynes worries

you do recall the background there of his past relationships,,
his current wife's  plane  crash ,which was not clarified, a later illness and hospitalization,  building a home in crimea, etc
i'm not picking on him..
I have true concern for wayne ,as if its all true its just a horrible amount of bad luck and serious situations,
and if its suspect its all difficult road for him as well.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2014, 05:51:35 PM by Jumper »
.

Offline GQBlues

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11752
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: No Selection
  • Status: No Selection
  • Trips: None (yet)
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2014, 02:52:05 PM »
...GQBlues, I get it that you’re a die hard republikan, we live in a democracy, freedom of thought and expression goes a long with that, but let me exercise these rights as well.

The Teamsters did a lot of good for American workers, a lot of the benefits that workers take for granted today were actually a direct result of the teamsters actions, the teamsters went through their period of manipulation by organized crime, but that was mostly over with by the time you were born, thanks to the FBI.

To say that the US “wrote the book on 'in-your-face' type corruption” is laughable.  The US government has actually stamped out such corruption, the most recent being republikan senator Tom Delay who went to prison for it.

Not to say corruption doesn still exist in the USA, it does, ...

Thank you.

Quote
....they’re called bankers now...

Bankers are the least of my worries.

Maybe you can tell me exactly how well was that silly nearly trillion dollar stimulus bill did for anyone? How'bout the stupid half-trillion Omnibus bill? The S-Chip bill that was passed (despite being voted out 4 times and vetoed by the previous president), collected revenues for and are now being shadowed over by Obamacare with no cost designation of its proceeds?

DC wouldn't be littered with lobbyists if these monkeys we call public servants aren't worth the grease they slop over them....

Speaking of the FBI, whatever happened to Republican Sen Ted Stevens' investigative probe on his mistrial? You did know he was running (and was a sure bet to fill a Senate seat) as a Alaskan senator in 2008 when he got bushwhacked by a silly charge of swindle and bribery by an FBI agent (which was later proved to be bogus), don't you? Causing Stevens off the 2008 election and replaced by a Democrat to successfully give Obama a Democrat majority in Congress...

Timing is a beautiful thing to watch, man.

2 years later, Ted Stevens died in a plane crash and little had been heard about this since..tsk, tsk, tsk.

"None of the prosecutors has been charged with wrongdoing, yet the fallout from the Stevens’ case continues to be felt at the Justice Department and within the Public Integrity Section, the special unit that oversees corruption cases against lawmakers and government officials, as well as on Capitol Hill and back in Alaska. Several of the prosecutors in the case tried to delay the release of the Schuelke report, although U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan — who presided over the Stevens’ trial — and a federal appeals court rejected that request.

“The investigation and prosecution of U.S. Senator Ted Stevens were permeated by the systematic concealment of significant exculpatory evidence which would have independently corroborated Senator Stevens’s defense and his testimony, and seriously damaged the testimony and credibility of the government’s key witness,” Schuelke wrote in the summary of his report.

It came after more than two years of review, including interviews of all the members of the elite DOJ team handling the case, all of whom worked for the Public Integrity Section. That unit oversees corruption cases involving lawmakers and public officials.
Brendan Sullivan, Stevens’ lead defense attorney, blasted DOJ after the release of the Schuelke report.

“A miscarriage of justice would have been averted had the government complied with the law. There would have been no illegal verdict.

The Senator would not have lost the election in Alaska,” Sullivan said. “Instead, the government proceeded by any means necessary to win their case. In the process, the government violated the United States Constitution and the ethical rules of the legal profession.”


No one was convicted of a crime! Imagine that!

Union, yup...USPS generates billions of dollars of losses every year despite the almost yearly increases for its fees and postage (What was it last year? $50 billion? $20 before that?). You know why? Royal pensions, baby. Labor rules, etc...and who pays for these losses and royal pensions? Nope...not the Union. How can private companies like UPS, Fed-Ex can turn profits but not the USPS? Ever wonder about that? Yet it's people are known to have tendencies of going postal, LOL.
Almost every city, even States, are dead broke...guess why again? It's government's Union pension plans  ;) If the labor force is growing, as do their respective dues and memberships, why is the non-Union Joe Public being *forced* to boot these bills everytime these idiots go broke (which is almost every freaking year). Where do all those monies go?

Obamacare was argued to be a 'law' and hence it can no longer be changed or modified. YET, when the Union bosses demanded a moratorium, it not only got a special delay, the law itself was changed by the same people who argued it can't be. It is still being changed today...LOL. You think the Unions have zero influenced on the POTUS?

Solyndra's execs gave themselves bonuses before filing BK. The when they got requisitioned to appear in court, they pledge the 5th. LOL.

If these aren't corruptions, I don't know what WTF is.....You must be a devoted Democrat.

I may not have the experience living in Crimea, but had lived through worst cronyism, corruption and poverty in my youth than the average Crimeans. Ukraine or Russia doesn't have the monopoly in corruption. Does that buy me an eticket to anywhere? Of course not. Is the US just as bad as other places in the world in terms of corruption? Of course not.

BUT, one every important and significant difference IMO is, the overall general population of these places. In general, in the US, folks live within the rules of law as a whole.

Quote
...But Russia is a whole different ball game....

Of course it is. Just as Mexico is as well but that doesn't stop hundreds of thousands of Americans from acquiring properties or even living there. Hell, many of them eve prefer it..just as any other places.

Quote
...Did you read about Obama’s “Dacha”, you didn’t?  You know why?  There isn’t one!
Google “putin’s dacha” and see the difference...

This is relevant how? That's as relevant as saying maybe an investment in Crimea is actually great considering the life of an average Ukrainians vs that of an average Russian.

About the only pertinent and notable difference between O and P is one have a majority support and approval of its population and one do not. Guess which is which?

Quote
...for anybody actually dunmb enough or crazy enough to move to Crimea like I was 10 years ago, well, good luck to you, you’re gonna need it, especially now, I’m sure Americans and Europeans will be “warmly” welcomed in Crimea, just check out Sevastopolski Bike Rally for confirmation of what I'm telling you..

Obviously not meant for me since I never said I wanted to *move* to Crimea. Look into investment potentials, hell yah. Discussions had already began. Heck, I may even rent this out to some well-to-do Ukrainians who might want to vacation on the beautiful shores of Crimea someday. Of course, by then, they'll be 'foreigners' will be subjected to that 300% foreigner's tax.

 ;)
« Last Edit: September 10, 2014, 03:20:14 PM by GQBlues »
Quote from: msmob
1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

Offline southernX

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 933
  • Country: au
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Married 5-10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2014, 03:36:08 PM »
A friend of mine was there last week, he said all was calm You will have no problems. You are in Russia now.  ;)

each time we have been there it was calm and friendly , however that was before when it was ukraine lol

seems the nazi fascists must have been hideing  when we where  staying there lol

SX
Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.

Offline Wayne

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 939
  • Country: us
  • Spouse's Country: Russia
  • Status: Looking 1-2 years
  • Trips: None (yet)
Re: Heading for Crimea
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2014, 09:56:23 AM »
Everything went well. I returned. Food prices are higher. Russian food is lower quality. The beaches were not full, but we had some nice weather.
 
There was no problems with my flights. Transaero Airlines is OK, but their food consisted of a candy bar and tea or coffee on a 2.5 hour flight.
 
There are a lot more cars in Crimea now. BIL had to wait four days at the ferry to return to Crimea after a business trip. Wife says the value of land has gone up. The only improvements we saw were at the military bases. Russa has re-opened some bases. A lot of military flights.
 
We saw a lot of interesting places and things.

Offline R19Pype

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • Country: md
  • Gender: Male
  • Spouse's Country: Turkmenistan
  • Status: Married > 10 years
  • Trips: > 10
Heading for C
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2014, 04:05:07 PM »
briso and Ylwfin, it would be greatly appreciated if you could share any details of your trip off J.B as a mate and I maybe heading out of there on Thursday arvo weather permitting.
Good luck everyone
Corey

 

+-RWD Stats

Members
Total Members: 8888
Latest: UA2006
New This Month: 0
New This Week: 0
New Today: 0
Stats
Total Posts: 546137
Total Topics: 20977
Most Online Today: 1136
Most Online Ever: 194418
(June 04, 2025, 03:26:40 PM)
Users Online
Members: 4
Guests: 1022
Total: 1026

+-Recent Posts

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by krimster2
Yesterday at 07:17:03 AM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by Trenchcoat
Yesterday at 12:16:57 AM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by Trenchcoat
June 19, 2025, 09:53:03 PM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by krimster2
June 19, 2025, 01:11:49 PM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by olgac
June 19, 2025, 12:51:08 PM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by krimster2
June 19, 2025, 12:33:15 PM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by Trenchcoat
June 19, 2025, 12:20:37 PM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by krimster2
June 19, 2025, 10:51:46 AM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by olgac
June 19, 2025, 10:08:44 AM

Re: The Struggle For Ukraine by krimster2
June 19, 2025, 09:20:22 AM

Powered by EzPortal

create account