Poroshenko claims Ukraine is now being offered weapons by NATO.

[lordtiberius]

Here 'ya go Jay.  I am quickly becoming convinced that you are a lot of hot air.  Plain as day.

False and False.

Without using Google Jay, tell us, what were the numbers of the American invasion force at the onset of the second Iraq war?

And how many millions of men were in the Iraqi Army?

Quick, let's see if you can answer the questions.

You are linking out a man who by his own words is advising the Poroshenko government.

[AC]

You are linking out a man who by his own words is advising the Poroshenko government.

If he is than the Ukrainians are in a hot mess!

 

[lordtiberius]

LT-- being observationally critical is not being anti American. Sure I can be critical -- but I also see the good parts and strengths.It is about not being a blind believer-- after all--it is the benefit of living with the ability to think and talk freely in democracies.

My comments earlier -- the Ukrainian ground forces can do the job required if they get the support.As such--US ground forces would not be required- save for special forces and instructors.That is not such a great political ask internally in the US. Give the Ukrainians air support,intelligence,equipment and logistical support and they would be very capable of pushing the Russian out of Ukraine ( including the Crimea) .

The key part of Ukrainian strategy from the start of the invasion has been to try and minimise the loss-- and not see Ukraine razed. If the build up of support can be achieved not so obviously -by stealth if you wish- it can avoid the Russians using that as a pretext to escalate.

As for Putin--I think the guy is crazy deluded--dangerous.The world will be doing itself a favour confronting him and Russia  now--before it gets completely out of hand.

I find your observational criticism of America at a time when American friendship is desired in poor taste.  If you care, apologize.  If you don't, by all means keep doing what you are doing.

[lordtiberius]

If he is than the Ukrainians are in a hot mess!

 

I meant to say punking out not linking out. Gotta love auto correct.

[AC]

I agree with all of your post except this. 

I don't care how capable you are, if you threaten me or mine, you die.

With all due respect Putin is clearly bluffing and he's doing so because he knows that there simply is no real American leadership in the World right now under Obama.  As I wrote once before if Romney were President than Putin would be taking an entirely different tack and I doubt if he would have attempted the annexation of Crimea. 

For sure he would not be in E. Ukraine right now because there clearly would have been consequences much greater than just sanctions.

[lordtiberius]

I am not like the 4 other Euromaidan activists who will call his bluff with hot air believing him to sensible, rational or humane.  You don't negotiate with these people.  You get to a place where you don't have to deal with them.  We can't ignore him like Mugabe.  We can't leave him to himself he is too powerful.  We have to commit to regime change because he has nukes.

[calmissile]

With all due respect Putin is clearly bluffing and he's doing so because he knows that there simply is no real American leadership in the World right now under Obama.  As I wrote once before if Romney were President than Putin would be taking an entirely different tack and I doubt if he would have attempted the annexation of Crimea. 

For sure he would not be in E. Ukraine right now because there clearly would have been consequences much greater than just sanctions.

Very true!   
The question is, how much more damage can Putin do to the world before we can get rid of Obama?

[AC]

Not joking.  Elaboration is not possible because of the program's Top Secret classification. 

I can disclose some self-evident information.  For example, the Chelyabinsk demonstration was performed at a shallow atmospheric entry angle to minimize damage.  You will recall the meteorite's approach was concealed by aligning its radiant with the morning sun.  So if I were Russian I would be concerned during the midday sun. 

Here's another clue - metallurgical analysis of fragments from the Chelyabinsk meteor showed some similarities with moon rocks.  Obviously the meteorites are harvested from the moon, stored there and launched from the moon.  The launch site can not be detected because it is on the dark side of the moon.  The launch and flight control techniques are phenomenal and can not be discussed.

If only this were true: would Obama use such a weapons system?  Nope.

[AC]

I am not like the 4 other Euromaidan activists who will call his bluff with hot air believing him to sensible, rational or humane.  You don't negotiate with these people.  You get to a place where you don't have to deal with them.  We can't ignore him like Mugabe.  We can't leave him to himself he is too powerful.  We have to commit to regime change because he has nukes.

Well I like your ideas however simply don't agree with this particular opinion.  Regime change of Russia is not an option by action of the USA and our allies nor is it really desired.  Believe it or not there are many other Russians far more radical than Putin waiting in the wings.

Just give Ukraine the heavy weaponry they need and perhaps a few other things as well. 

Call Putin's bluff and he will leave Ukraine very soon.  Don't call his bluff and he may make a move all the way to Transnistra.  As Calmissile just wrote: how much damage will be caused by Putin before Obama is gone?  The sanctions are very good and working but more should be done. 

[lordtiberius]

You would leave Putin in charge of Russia?

How long will he last if this war continues badly for him?

[AC]

You would leave Putin in charge of Russia?

How long will he last if this war continues badly for him?

Don't know don't care.  Myself and most others just want him to get out of Ukraine!  All the way out (including Crimea) may not happen within our lifetimes.

Try to force some sort of regime change in Russia and now you're no better than Putin and his desire to control Ukraine.

[lordtiberius]

OK.

I don't share your view or your indifference to Russia which would still threaten World Peace.  We must break Russia into smaller republics.  We have to separate Moscow from Russia.  We have to seize all of its nuclear arsenal.  We have to have pro-Western, pro-democracy leaders in each of these new republics or we will never know peace in Europe or Asia.

[AC]

OK.

I don't share your view or your indifference to Russia which would still threaten World Peace.  We must break Russia into smaller republics.  We have to separate Moscow from Russia.  We have to seize all of its nuclear arsenal.  We have to have pro-Western, pro-democracy leaders in each of these new republics or we will never know peace in Europe or Asia.

We don't need any of that, we just need another Ronald Reagan. 

[AkMike]

We must break Russia into smaller republics.  We have to separate Moscow from Russia.

 Uhh Isn't this exactly what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now? Hasn't that been declared illegal by using all international laws?   

 BTW Just who is this  "WE" you're tossing around so freely? 

[AC]

 Uhh Isn't this exactly what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now? Hasn't that been declared illegal by using all international laws?   

 BTW Just who is this  "WE" you're tossing around so freely? 

 

[AkMike]

I'm sure as he11 glad that he's not in charge. 

[AC]

I'm sure as he11 glad that he's not in charge. 

He's got the right spirit.  Too many Americans can't even find Ukraine on a map.  Most are too busy watching Kim Kardashian and her gigantic rear-end.

[JayH]

I find your observational criticism of America at a time when American friendship is desired in poor taste.  If you care, apologize.  If you don't, by all means keep doing what you are doing.

LT--just as well you about to get your nuts frozen off--it will save me doing the  kicking !!

For a guy who is so disrespectful of your President and the system that elected him ( and in effect-- disrespecting the USA as a whole) you have more hide than is imaginable.You lecturing anyone on "poor taste" --now that is comic-- and would be laughable if not for your overwhelming  poor taste.

Like I said-read the words I actually said.I said read--not quote them back at me.

[lordtiberius]

Well I hope whatever advise you are giving to Petro is better than they wisdom you are giving us.

You know it takes a big man to admit when he is wrong.  The inverse is also true.

Russia is superpower.  It will always be such because of its size, natural resources and nuclear weapons. 

But if you really what to destroy Russia once and for all make it democratic.  Ask Tsar Nicholas' grandfather and the Decembrists

[AkMike]

LT, Just how much time have you actually spent in UA?

[lordtiberius]

A couple months, why?

[AkMike]

Amazing.. simply amazing..

[Muzh]

I find your observational criticism of America at a time when American friendship is desired in poor taste.  If you care, apologize.  If you don't, by all means keep doing what you are doing.

I'll have to come to the (GASP, shudder) defense of Jay here.


LT, anyone who would make a criticism of what you say would be an anti-American to you.


Also, I know what Jay is trying to convey you and AC and it is a pity you both are frothing at the mouth.


I know LT is a lost cause, however, AC you should tone it down a bit. After all you both are rooting for the same team.


For heavens sake.

[Muzh]

With all due respect Putin is clearly bluffing and he's doing so because he knows that there simply is no real American leadership in the World right now under Obama.  As I wrote once before if Romney were President than Putin would be taking an entirely different tack and I doubt if he would have attempted the annexation of Crimea. 

For sure he would not be in E. Ukraine right now because there clearly would have been consequences much greater than just sanctions.

Now you are starting to sound like LT. Thin ice there my friend.

[Muzh]

Very true!   
The question is, how much more damage can Putin do to the world before we can get rid of Obama?

Any excuse is good to get rid of the Nigr, right?