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Black Clouds on the Horizon
« on: November 01, 2014, 06:08:09 PM »
As at October 31, 2014, the Russian Federation continues to build up its forces in the territory of the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts. At that we increasingly receive reports that militants have BM-30 “Smerch” multiple rocket launchers (one of the identified places of deployment is the warehouse of the “Dominion” Trade House in Donetsk; it is located 84.5 km away from the headquarters of Ukrainian military in Kramatorsk), BM-27 “Uragan” multiple rocket launcher systems (deployed to Horlivka, former railway station “Promyvochna”, 48 km away from Ukrainian emplacements). Our observers also detected movement of S-300 (NATO reporting name is SA-10 Grumble) long range surface-to-air missile systems (one of the identified places of deployment is the warehouse of the “Dominion” Trade House in Donetsk). If those S-300 systems are of S-300PMU-1 modification (NATO reporting name is SA-20 Gargoyle), they greatly complicates application of tactical aviation very difficult in the entire crisis region.

We observe mass rotation of personnel of militant groupings, at that local “militia” is replaced with Russian servicemen. For example, in Olenivka the majority of personnel standing at checkpoints belongs to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. In Petrovskyi district of Donetsk over the past three days the local militants disappeared; the locals confirm availability of many Russian servicemen. It is most likely that the Russian soldiers replace out-of-control militants. There is a high probability of deployment of a frontline control center in the area of the spoil tip of the “Chekist” mine (47°58’14,89″N, 37°34’23,95″E — unfinished military object). This is confirmed by cordoning off the village of the mine and deployment of communications in the area of Markina Street.

It should also be noted that there is an increase of personnel and armored vehicles in Alchevsk, Bryanka, Perevalsk, Horlivka, Yenakijeve settlements, and formation of reserves in Rovenky, Antratsyt, Snizhne, Krasnyi Luch.

We observe accumulation of the attack forces in the area of Telmanove, Pervomaiske, Krasnopillya, and deployment of field hospitals in that area. Because the part of the E-58 highway in the area of Samsonove-Bezimenne is blocked, we can make a conclusion of presence of enemy armored vehicles there.

Diversionary groups of the enemy were observed in the area of Kostiantynivka (the locals reported of firing of small arms in the evening of October 30), Debaltseve (groups of snipers arrived there to destroy gunners of Ukrainian artillery), Mariupol.

Thus, the combined forces of the Russian Federation and LPR and DPR terrorist organizations are ready to a full-scale attack in several directions.

Supposedly, the primary directions of attacks will be:

 South-West:
 Group “А”: Olenivka-Dokuchajevsk-Volnovakha (its mission is to cut off the supply routes of the ATO forces in the area of Starohnativka and join the groups “B” and “C” in the area of Volnovakha, then advance upon Vuhledar along the T-0509 highway; join with the attack group “E” in order to encircle the ATO grouping in the area of Kostiantynivka and Novomykhailivka.
 Group “B”: Komsomolske-Starohnativka-Donskoye (the mission is to split the group of the ATO forces in the area of Starohnativka and then join the groups “A” and “C” in the area of Volnovakha.
 Group “C”: Telmanove-Hranytne-Donskoye. The mission is to split the ATO grouping in the area of Starohnativka, join the groups “A” and “B” to create the attack group, which will attack towards Donskoye-Kirovske-Maloyanisol-Respublika, support of the group “D” on the right flank.
 Group “D”: Krasnoarmiiske-Talakivka-Volodarske-Manhush; the mission is to cut off the supply routes of the ATO forces in Mariupol and gain control over the E-58 highway.
 Group “E”: Donetsk-Marinka-Kurahove; the mission is to get into the rear of the grouping of the ATO forces in Kostiantynivka and Novomykhailivka in order to prevent an attack on the flank of the group “A”; then advance upon Vuhledar with the aim to encircle the grouping of the ATO forces in the area of Kostiantynivka and Novomykhailivka.
 North-West:
 Group “F”: Spartak-Avdiivka-Ocheretyne (the mission is to capture the Donetsk airport and prepare conditions for a successful attack from Horlivka towards Dzerzhynsk)
 Groups “G.1” (Horlivka-Svitlodarsk-Artemivsk), “G2” (Pervomaisk-Popasna-Artemivsk), “H” (Horlivka-Dzerzhynsk-Kostiantynivka); the mission is to straighten the front line in the north direction with the aim to retain control over the T0504 frontage highway to cut off the supply routes of the ATO grouping in the area of Debaltseve, formation of the jump-off line for the offensive towards Kramatorsk and Slovyansk.
 North:
 Group “I”: Bryanka-Pervomaisk-Lysychansk (confirmed with shelling of Hirske during the artillery preparation, and observed movement towards the checkpoint #31). The mission is to gain control over Lysychansk, Severodonetsk, Rubizhne, then develop the offensive upon Novoaidar with the aim to cut off the supply routes of the ATO grouping in Shchastya.
 North-East: offensive of the enemy upon Shchastya can be considered impossible in this situation because Severskiy Donets river, which divides the Luhansk Oblast into two parts, is a pretty good defense line. This is why the primary direction of attack will be the attack of the Group “F”; the purpose of that attack will be to capture Lysychansk and Severodonetsk with the aim to control the crossings over the water obstacles with subsequent development of the offensive towards Novoaidar with the aim to cut off the communications of the ATO grouping in Shchastya.

The specified attacks will be supposedly preceded with shelling of Kramatorsk (possibly from BM-30 “Smerch”) and other settlements where the Headquarters of the sectors are located, with the aim to disrupt the control over the ATO forces.

The reason for the full-scale attack will probably be a powerful provocation, which will happen during the elections on November 2, 2014.

The signs of preparations for the provocation are: painting of the identification marks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Russian armored vehicles, as well as the announced rally of “Patriots of Ukraine” in Donetsk and Luhansk. Supposedly, densely populated districts of Donetsk and Luhansk will be shelled from the border area (long-range artillery and MLRS BM-21 “Grad” is located on the western outskirts of Donetsk — their deployment to a minimum distance from the contact line contradicts the logic). The similar pattern is observed in other settlements.

Thus, November 2 will become the checkpoint for the beginning of full-scale military operations by terrorists. However, the attack will begin supposedly on November 4 or 5 because the terrorists need to sum up the results of elections if their leaders want to pretend to look legitimate. After that the “legitimate” government of the newly created Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics will declare war on Ukraine. In this case, the Minsk agreements will lapse, and the Russian Federation will ally with the terrorists in the war. This will give the terrorists an opportunity to use tactical operational missile complexes in addition to what they have so far.

Rumors among the DPR fans in Kramatorsk and Slovyansk indirectly confirm the date of November 4/5. According to them, the DPR is planning to return to these settlements on that days.

The material was prepared basing on information from our insiders in the occupied territories and open source intelligence by: military analyst of the InformNapalm team Artem Vasylenko, military and political analyst of the InformNapalm team Timur Melik, military correspondent Roman Burko.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 07:45:07 PM »
Mike I may have missed it if it's there, but how many Russian soldiers total are grouped and ready to go into Ukraine for this potential invasion?  How many do they estimate are already inside of Ukraine?

This is a very scary scenario, maybe you should have posted it yesterday evening.  In all seriousness I really hope that the only thing that happens in the next few days is that the Republicans win the Congress.  We need some really good news and that would be perfect -- I really hope that this is just a potential scenario and it does not come true.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 07:57:47 PM »
Any is too many! Possible euromadian has some better numbers for the invaders.

 I couldn't post it until I found it today. Sorry.
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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 08:01:37 PM »
Any is too many! Possible euromadian has some better numbers for the invaders.

 I couldn't post it until I found it today. Sorry.

Sadly it's going to be a horrible bloodbath if Putin orders this invasion.  No way are the Ukrainians going to give an inch more of their land without putting up very fierce resistance.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 08:13:59 PM »
The map doesn't look good to me.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 09:20:38 PM »
Can someone with compassion drop nuke on Kremlin

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 09:44:44 PM »
Better option will be to weaponize the Ebola virus and drop it off on Kremlin!

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 10:51:59 PM »
Putin killed a former KGB agent with some polonium and now that former agent's son is of age I believe.  I'm sure that young man, and many others would like to get revenge on Putin.  It's really probably only a matter of time.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2014, 12:24:54 AM »
Mike I may have missed it if it's there, but how many Russian soldiers total are grouped and ready to go into Ukraine for this potential invasion?  How many do they estimate are already inside of Ukraine?

The numbers already in Ukraine(remember that Russia has not invaded!!) has been put at approx 6000 in conservative estimate-- and may be as high as 12000 already.

Ready to go in-at least 20,000 and maybe as high as 50,000 . When you realise the amount of equipment that has been massed for this next stage you can realise the enormity.

There has also been a large number of attack helicopters moved into position- and their use would clearly show the world of Russian involvement without the nonsense of the Kremlin's "who us" routine.

The pretext-- the nonsense "election" today will see Putin use that to "justify" his invasion.Intelligence sources have seen this date( today) for some considerable time on the agenda.

Seeing an escalation of sheer numbers and aircraft then is rationalised on the basis they were "invited".

I also expect to see them moving from the Crimean side also- with the aim to cover a lot of territory fast.
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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2014, 01:25:42 AM »
Don't forget the 'tourists' that are in Krym either. They could move west towards their brother terrorists or eats towards Odessa. They'd love to have a landlocked UA to finish gutting out.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 09:22:44 AM »
Better option will be to weaponize the Ebola virus and drop it off on Kremlin!

It is always a possibility if things start to go sideways in Ukraine.

http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/germ-research-lab-opens-in-ukraine/

The Cooperative Threat Reduction program is funded by the US DoD.



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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 09:30:29 AM »
That link is almost 4 1/2 years old.
I hope they abandoned that idea. Nasty germs scare me.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 10:13:50 AM »
That link is almost 4 1/2 years old.
I hope they abandoned that idea. Nasty germs scare me.

The facility is currently in use as well as eight others just like it along the Russian border inside Ukraine.
There is also one in Georgia and an 87,000 square foot facility in Kazakhstan on the Russian border built to "study" anthrax and black plague.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2014, 10:52:41 AM »
The facility is currently in use as well as eight others just like it along the Russian border inside Ukraine.
There is also one in Georgia and an 87,000 square foot facility in Kazakhstan on the Russian border built to "study" anthrax and black plague.

If this is true than maybe Ukraine doesn't need Nuclear weapons.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2014, 10:58:53 AM »
 Gee this is a shocker!  :rolleyes:

Russian 'food convoy' truck overturns in Donetsk, revealing ammunition

A truck belonging to the so-called Russian humanitarian convoy overturned in Donetsk. It was carrying combat ammunition, a local journalist, Oleksy Matsuka, writes in Twitter Nov. 2, Ukrayinska Pravda reports.

The Russians deny any inspection by Ukraine border guards, customs officials and Red Cross of their alleged food convoys.

On their way back to Russia, the truck carry the bodies of killed Russian soldiers, equipment stolen from Donbas plants, even sun-flower seeds and coal, eyewitnesses say.


http://zik.ua/en/news/2014/11/02/russian_food_convoy_truck_overturns_in_donetsk_revealing_ammunition_537039

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2014, 04:04:48 PM »
This does not bode well.  I really hope I don't wake up tomorrow and get very bad news about Ukraine.


http://news.yahoo.com/separatist-elections-troop-movements-rattle-ukraine-153127855.html

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2014, 04:36:49 PM »
It's not looking good. Pray for the best and prepare for the worst.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2014, 05:11:17 PM »
putin is the scum of the earth ,

it was always my thinking he wanted the land bridge to crimea , this may be his next move,
and i agree it will come from crimea as well if it does 

question is what will the EU/west do about it if he does?  as ukraine needs help desperatly to stop this bastard

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2014, 05:24:35 PM »
Have the large numbers of Russian military planes been practicing for a Nuclear strike?


http://www.unian.info/politics/1003719-russian-aircraft-could-be-practicing-for-nuclear-strike.html

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2014, 08:12:32 PM »
Nah, they're attempting to intimidate everyone to bend over for them.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2014, 08:28:14 PM »
Nah, they're attempting to intimidate everyone to bend over for them.
http://www.denninger.net/images/bear_attack.jpg
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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2014, 08:34:59 PM »
Warning:  Pornorgraphic link  :shock:
If you think it's bad, take your copy down - I've taken the link down. Didn't mean to offend.
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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2014, 08:40:29 PM »
If you think it's bad, take your copy down - I've taken the link down. Didn't mean to offend.

You did not offend me, I thought it was funny as hell.  My link stays unless a mod feels it needs to go.

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Re: Black Clouds on the Horizon
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2014, 09:08:45 PM »
I didn't think it was pornographic.  I thought is was funny as well. :)
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