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Hello all, new to this
« on: November 11, 2014, 01:21:42 PM »
Hello everyone.  I'm new to this whole idea and have spent the last two weeks researching this avenue as a potential for a future wife.  I was directed to this whole area, and more specifically to this forum, by a Russian woman that I know in my hometown.

Just to give everyone an idea of who I am, as this is an introduction,  I will explain a bit about myself and why I am here. 

Firstly, I am 38 years old.  I am physically fit, was a pro bull rider, soldier in the US Army, and am now finishing another degree in petroleum engineering.  this will be my second bachelor's and 5th degree overall.  I own my house free from the bank, along with everything else.  No debt except for a small amount of student loans which will be taken care of next year.  I have never been married (engaged once) and date often.  Ok, enough of that crap.

The reason I am exploring this as an option is because I am seriously looking for a wife.  I have dated ad infinitum here and haven't found even one woman I would consider marrying in the last 15 years.  I guess I'm exploring all options available.  Somehow something is always too far wrong with the women I have dated.  I'll be honest, I am not willing to settle.  If that were the case I could have been married 10 times over.  I want the whole package.  A good woman that will be an excellent mother, with whom we share a strong physical and emotional attachment.  People (namely my mother) tel me I am just too picky.

Maybe I am, but I feel that real love is out there somewhere, and if I quit looking I'll just end up divorced, which is something I do not ever think I could do, 

This makes me sound like a bit of a control freak, I suppose.  I assure you that is not the case.  I believe the home is the woman's domain and she pretty much gets to run it how she wants.  Obviously, there are a couple things I want a say in, but for 98% of anything she wants in that regard, she gets.  My job is to make sure that she gets it. 

Anyway, that is me.  I'm basically working my way through every post here.  I believe in the gathering of information so that is basically what I'm here doing.  I appreciate all the advice and information you have put on here.  it has really helped. 


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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2014, 01:47:50 PM »
Welcome, BullRDR, from a Wyoming/Ukrainian resident, rodeo spectator (Cheyenne Frontier Days), USMC vet, and happily engaged fiance of a beautiful, loving Ukrainian woman. You seem to be approaching your search in the right frame of mind. Good luck!   :welcome:

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2014, 02:47:02 PM »
Thank you. 

Another man in Wyoming?  very interesting.  If you're ever through Laramie, look me up.  I'll buy you a beer in exchange for picking your brain for a while. 

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2014, 03:14:40 PM »
Welcome,
You have a lot to learn by reading this forum or discussing with their members, even it is harsh sometime.
You are right to be picky, you don't need to sell off yourself cheaply.
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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2014, 03:36:31 PM »
Bull Rider  :welcome:

I hope your time here is rewarding!

Somehow something is always too far wrong with the women I have dated. 

Hopefully it is an issue of incompatibility rather than something wrong with women.  What would you say are the leading reasons for the incompatibility with AW whom you have dated?


How long does it take for you to realize a woman is "wrong" for you?  I ask because IMO it takes longer to get to know a RW than an AW.  The reasons include the obvious language barrier, yet the differences in culture can add confusion.  Also, because of the long distance between Russia and the US, face time is limited. 

Thus, you need to spend a lot of time with a RW to be sure. Do you have the time for international travel?

Not everything about a RW is an obstacle.  In contrast with AW, I found RW to be more direct and open to serious conversations even in the early stages of a relationship. 

By answering these and similar questions, we can start a dialogue and give you some advice.



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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2014, 04:10:35 PM »
Hello everyone.  I'm new to this whole idea and have spent the last two weeks researching this avenue as a potential for a future wife.  I was directed to this whole area, and more specifically to this forum, by a Russian woman that I know in my hometown.

Just to give everyone an idea of who I am, as this is an introduction,  I will explain a bit about myself and why I am here. 

Firstly, I am 38 years old.  I am physically fit, was a pro bull rider, soldier in the US Army, and am now finishing another degree in petroleum engineering.  this will be my second bachelor's and 5th degree overall.  I own my house free from the bank, along with everything else.  No debt except for a small amount of student loans which will be taken care of next year.  I have never been married (engaged once) and date often.  Ok, enough of that crap.

The reason I am exploring this as an option is because I am seriously looking for a wife.  I have dated ad infinitum here and haven't found even one woman I would consider marrying in the last 15 years.  I guess I'm exploring all options available.  Somehow something is always too far wrong with the women I have dated.  I'll be honest, I am not willing to settle.  If that were the case I could have been married 10 times over.  I want the whole package.  A good woman that will be an excellent mother, with whom we share a strong physical and emotional attachment.  People (namely my mother) tel me I am just too picky.

Maybe I am, but I feel that real love is out there somewhere, and if I quit looking I'll just end up divorced, which is something I do not ever think I could do, 

This makes me sound like a bit of a control freak, I suppose.  I assure you that is not the case.  I believe the home is the woman's domain and she pretty much gets to run it how she wants.  Obviously, there are a couple things I want a say in, but for 98% of anything she wants in that regard, she gets.  My job is to make sure that she gets it. 

Anyway, that is me.  I'm basically working my way through every post here.  I believe in the gathering of information so that is basically what I'm here doing.  I appreciate all the advice and information you have put on here.  it has really helped.


Well Bullrider, that was an interesting introduction.  By reading it does appear you are not going to be easy to please.  Yeah, you are asking a lot, so you might want to take your mom's advice into account too!  Hopefully you are a VERY good man yourself.  Do you have any weaknesses of your own that you feel you could shore up to help you meet your future wife?  If you can identify them and work on them, it give you even a better chance of finding a great lady, whether it be Russia, South America, or Wyoming. 


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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2014, 05:05:01 PM »
Gator,
   Yes, incompatibility would have been a better word choice.  I didn't meant to imply there was anything wtong with them, just that it wasn't what I was looking for.  I apologize for the confusion.  As far as a leading reason?  They are as varied as the women themselves.  The latest one, whom I dated for 3 years, was lack of personality and the sex was awful.   Her personality was that of a fence post most of the time.  The only emotion she would show on a regular basis is anger, over things like I hadn't made dinner yet (she couldn't cook at all).  Ones before that include cheating, drugs, total party girls, doesn't want kids, etc... 


As for how long it takes, that's a hard question to answer.  I pretty much knew it wasn't going to work out with the last one, but I hate to quit on a relationship until I've given it my very best.  That explains the three year effort to make it work. 

I don't have time for international travel right now, because of the degree I'm finishing.  But soon I will be out of school again, and back to work, which is waiting for me.  Then I will have the time because I will work a 28/28 schedule, most likely.  If not then it will be on a 2 week rotation, which is still doable. 

Fathertime,
    Of course, no one is perfect.  I'm sure there are many things I could work on, but I do believe I am a good man.  If not, I suppose I wouldn't have had as many marriage proposals as I have had.  They just weren't right for me.  I can be stubborn, and I have some old fashioned views the I'm not willing to part with.  These things rub some people the wrong way.  That's fine, I'll find someone that shares my views.  I guess I'm looking for that true, unadulterated,  love that I have felt once before. (the engagement). 

And yes, I'm still dating here as well.  I went on a date 2 nights ago...wrote that one off in the first 5 minutes.  Wow, you could smell the crazy on her.   :)

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2014, 06:51:00 PM »
Thank you. 

Another man in Wyoming?  very interesting.  If you're ever through Laramie, look me up.  I'll buy you a beer in exchange for picking your brain for a while.

I'm currently just down I-80 from Laramie, in Cheyenne, cooling my heels in the US as I spend my mandatory time away from home in Lviv, to abide by the 90/180 day restriction on time in Ukraine...marriage on hold while UA government figures out how to treat involuntarily displaced persons from the Muscovite invasion zone in eastern Ukraine (of which my fiancee is one). I have 27 days allowed in country through 10 Jan, so will probably return just before western Christmas and stay through Orthodox Christmas. PM me if you have occasion to be in Cheyenne before about 17 Dec.

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2014, 07:21:26 PM »
I absolutely will.  Thanks for the invite!

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2014, 09:21:35 PM »
Bull Rider, let me weight your chances for success.
Your age fits  for search in 25-35 y.o. range, i.e. the most ripe to create family. No, not ripe, but eager for marriage.
Your background sounds alluring. Bull riding skills certainly will help to capture FSUW hearts, if employ them in right way :). Soldier career may put her on guard because of reputation of military men in FSU, however being in future an engineer removes the fears.
You know what you wants, persistent, able to express clearly your thoughts, value emotions.
If the latter in relations with FSUW doesn't scare away you,  the prospects are high.
Good luck!

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2014, 11:05:45 PM »
Belvis,

   Thank you for your reply,  I appreciate it.  I am hopeful in this area because of encouragement of the few FSU women I know.  I appreciate your comments to bolster my waning resolve.

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2014, 01:20:34 AM »
 :welcome: to the forum.  Nice to have a pro bull rider here!  And I agree with Patagonie, you have a right to be picky!  Big difference in mentality over there.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2014, 01:25:55 AM by AC »

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2014, 08:14:47 AM »
BullRDR, in my opinion you will do well in searching for a life partner in the FSU.  Based on your response to my questions, I have some suggestions to help you.

 

I don't have time for international travel right now, because of the degree I'm finishing.  But soon I will be out of school again, and back to work, which is waiting for me.  Then I will have the time because I will work a 28/28 schedule, most likely.  If not then it will be on a 2 week rotation, which is still doable. 


I suggest that you now get your feet wet.   Study a few  websites with profiles of FSUW looking for a relationship.  You might try writing a few RW on the free sites. 

Keep your introduction short (a little less than your intro above, and never, never mention other women).    Show them a photo or two of you riding a bull because most RW will find this really interesting. Be honest, so disclose that you can not travel for _____months. Perhaps a few will start a penpal relationship. 

One problem that Belvis did not mention.  RW have a guideline that if a man is not married by 40, something is wrong with him. :D  Be prepared for that.  OTOH, your not having any children is very advantageous.



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As far as a leading reason?  They are as varied as the women themselves.  The latest one, whom I dated for 3 years, was lack of personality and the sex was awful.   Her personality was that of a fence post most of the time.....

You knew this the first month, yet you lingered and stayed with her. 



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....I pretty much knew it wasn't going to work out with the last one, but I hate to quit on a relationship until I've given it my very best.  That explains the three year effort to make it work.       


BAD!   Staying committed to her deprived you of the opportunity to meet a quality woman.  Two points:

1.  If you plan to pursue FSUW, you must be decisive with less information than you will have with an AW.  Nevertheless, you will know about chemistry and sex in three days with a RW  :D, not three years.

2.  You need to decide if you stayed three years with an incompatible woman because a) you are a "nice guy" and felt that she needed you (I. e., white knight) or b) you do not like being alone.   Both a) and b) are bad attitudes for chasing FSUW because they can cause you to make wrong choices.  My advice, avoid desperate women and use solitude as a powerful, unencumbered time to think through your choices. 


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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2014, 01:05:11 PM »
Gator,
   That, my friend, was good advice.

I stayed with her for alot of different reasons.  The main one is once I develop feelings for someone and enter into a committed relationship with them, I hate to give up on it until I have tried everything in the world to make it work.  Just some of those old fashioned  ideals I cling to, I guess.  I don't forsee having that problem here since I will be committed to no one until I meet/have serious discussion about all of this with them. 

one thing you said caught my eye:


 Nevertheless, you will know about chemistry and sex in three days with a RW  :D, not three years.


How on earth will I know about sex after three days?  I could be wrong here, but I was under the impression that the "moral values" were a bit stricter with the RW than here, and any type of sex was out of the question until sometime down the road.  I know that you can't say that about all women, but I'm speaking on average here.  It just surprised me to read that.  Maybe I've been operating under a false pretense. 

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2014, 02:15:26 PM »
Gator,
   That, my friend, was good advice.

I stayed with her for alot of different reasons.  The main one is once I develop feelings for someone and enter into a committed relationship with them, I hate to give up on it until I have tried everything in the world to make it work.  Just some of those old fashioned  ideals I cling to, I guess.  I don't forsee having that problem here since I will be committed to no one until I meet/have serious discussion about all of this with them. 

one thing you said caught my eye:

How on earth will I know about sex after three days?  I could be wrong here, but I was under the impression that the "moral values" were a bit stricter with the RW than here, and any type of sex was out of the question until sometime down the road.  I know that you can't say that about all women, but I'm speaking on average here.  It just surprised me to read that.  Maybe I've been operating under a false pretense.

Yep.  And if you ever meet an FSUW who tells you that while wanting you to buy her stuff, run Forest run. 

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2014, 04:54:41 PM »
 Thanks for clearing that up, AC.  I has no idea.

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2014, 05:34:38 PM »

one thing you said caught my eye:

How on earth will I know about sex after three days?  I could be wrong here, but I was under the impression that the "moral values" were a bit stricter with the RW than here, and any type of sex was out of the question until sometime down the road.  I know that you can't say that about all women, but I'm speaking on average here.  It just surprised me to read that.  Maybe I've been operating under a false pretense.

You should be able to meet women who are both 'old school' in terms of sex, and those who are a bit more relaxed in this area.

Which type of women do you personally hope to meet in the FSU?
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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2014, 06:17:38 PM »
One problem that Belvis did not mention.  RW have a guideline that if a man is not married by 40, something is wrong with him. :D 

Gator, I dare to suppose RW knows exactly what's wrong with a man.  He must be either hardened skirt chaser or a complete killjoy, first option is preferable.  :)
Though deep in her soul she wants to believe the man was waiting for her all these years  :)

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2014, 06:27:31 PM »
Lilly,
   What I'm looking for (in this regard) is a woman that enjoys sex and isn't afraid to get wild in the bedroom, but doesn't jump into bed with every tom, dick and harry that comes along.  A mix of both, I guess you could say.  I'm a firm believer that the fastest way to ruin a budding, serious, relationship is have sex too soon.  You've heard the old saying, "a lady in public, a chef in the kitchen, a whore in the bedroom makes the perfect wife" These sayings exist for a reason.   ;D

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2014, 06:30:35 PM »
testing to see if this will allow me to post pictures here...forgive me being off topic.  Checking because I couldn't put anything in the gallery.

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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2014, 06:38:07 PM »
The latest one, whom I dated for 3 years, was lack of personality and the sex was awful.

So you didn't find the below to be true ??
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2014, 06:44:16 PM »
I was under the impression that the "moral values" were a bit stricter with the RW than here, and any type of sex was out of the question until sometime down the road.

Sex with FSUW can occur anywhere from first date to 10th date.

And the 10th date gal will be no more moral than the first date gal.

More likely, the 10th date gal is deliberately holding out because she thinks you will think better of her.  Meanwhile she might be hosing another guy.
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Re: Hello all, new to this
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2014, 06:53:52 PM »
ML,
   Good to know.  thanks.  And no, I did not find that picture to be true!   :thumbsdown:

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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2014, 07:19:28 PM »
testing to see if this will allow me to post pictures here...forgive me being off topic.  Checking because I couldn't put anything in the gallery.

7.5 seconds?

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LOL, no.  I was spurring the shit out of him.  I won that rodeo

 

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