help me understand this girl

[Gator]

Most of those from the ADate invasion days have dissipated except maybe pitbull. Who were some of the others?

Based on my trip report, Sandro accused me of dating Elena, something I denied yet took down her photo just in case my date really was her.

Daveman worked with Kvina when we did the Dating Guidelines in 2008 or thereabouts.   

Is Antidate active today?  They had some good laughs there, such as their thread comparing penises of men who sent them nude photos. 

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Based on my trip report, Sandro accused me of dating Elena, something I denied yet took down her photo just in case my date really was her.

Daveman worked with Kvina when we did the Dating Guidelines in 2008 or thereabouts.   

Is Antidate active today?  They had some good laughs there, such as their thread comparing penises of men who sent them nude photos.

Yeah it's still active as I just checked. I remember the bombardment of the AD'ers after TooTall posted a trip report. RWD probably hasn't had the membership expand that big before or since 

Well maybe not recently active as the dates for posts don't appear to recent but I don't read cyrillic

[Patagonie]

this is a question about failing dating so please bear with me. I've been trying to understand the situation then realized that this is a Russian girl i'm talking about, and i know even less about them then american girls.

a Russian exchange student who works at the bar that i have business with starts showing interest.

 first day she saw me she was stared at me for 5 seconds or so for 2-3 times.

anyways, from then on, more eye gazes, quick smiles in rather high volume.

then one day, we are left alone in the bar. she suddenly gets fidgety as hell- adjusting everything around her, dusting the bottles (which nobody ever does there even with the owner watching) so i finally initiate conversation and whatever light remarks i make she laughs way too hard even though they're not funny at all. then the owner comes back, we are interrupted, and she immediately goes into the bathroom to check the mirror, comes back and just keeps sitting faced toward me staring at me, wanting to continue the conversation.

it's really too aggressive how much interest she's trying to show me, and i start getting a little too excited on the inside.

finally ask her out several days later. but here's where i start to screw up. i get her phone number, then promise her to a dinner...then ask her for her name. yup, we've had only 3 minutes of conversation until then to not even know her name.

her phone's broken (this is legit as she is now carrying around a flip phone instead of her smartphone) so i use IM service that is linked to the phone number she gave me.

2 days later i text her hi, then let's go to dinner tonight.
her- sorry, busy today but i'll be free in the afternoon sometime next week.

now i panic that it has been downgraded to an afternoon meet so suddenly, but i did ask her suddenly for the dinner.
then i continue texting her in short exchanges daily without building much vibe. she is rather cold and aloof in her exchange, btw. english isn't her primary language so i don't think much of it.

middle of the 'next week', i have to be at the bar, she greets me very friendly, trying to make conversation, and i just somehow freeze up. i got so shy that i was only able to say hi and bye the whole time i was there when she was being overly friendly.

next day i text her 'let's meet up today' get a text back 6 hours later that she was busy the day and will be 'like this from now on'. so the date is pretty much canceled as i can tell but i chat up some more anyways before ending the conversation.

i'm back at the bar 2 days later and she is completely indifferent to me. but i stop her on my way out and ask her one last time if she wants the date, and get a no.
the next time i saw her she closed her eyes and crossed her arms the whole time i was there, lol...

the things i did were turn off to any women, indeed. but what i'd like to know is if her interest level was genuine in the start, if russian girls are so casual at blowing men off as much as american girls, and which of the things i did (obnoxious texting, shyness..) would have turned this russian girl off the most.

p.s. one detail that bothers me a bit since it was an unusual reaction on her part is when i was at the bar and too shy to talk to her. she got chewed out by her manager and i acted as though i was busy on the computer. i actually tried a feeble attempt at conversation right afterwards and she had her arms crossed, looked at me disapprovingly and just nodded three times without saying anything. back then i only thought why the hell are you mad at me for, but now i think of it, it could be a russian chivalry thing that i neglected.

please let me know your opinion. thanks.

First : interest expressed by a woman is not ever lasting.
Two : you need to stop the texting bla bla. You loose a lot in communication, and she is not a native english speaker you increase the misunderstanding.
Three : real men don't text ou sms, they call.
Four : as russian woman don't know you she has no reason to warm, especially if you had two minutes of conversation and 10 sms.
Five : you run after her, she got cold
Six : you didn't try to etablish some comfort to build your date, she fleed.
Seven : her level of interest was genuine from the scratch, you did a perfect job by picking up her phone number but after you screwed it up.
Eight : You discouraged her nice behavior towards you which means the beginning of an unhealthy relationship (freezing her up as she try to be friendly).
Nine : your status now : weird
Ten : forget and stop to try to be the nice guy, you missed it, let it go.

[Gator]

Yeah it's still active as I just checked. I remember the bombardment of the AD'ers after TooTall posted a trip report.

The T/R with "whites of their eyes'' photos.   

AntiDate labeled 2Tall a sex tourist even though he never had sex.   

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The T/R with "whites of their eyes'' photos.   

AntiDate labeled 2Tall a sex tourist even though he never had sex.   

Yeah I thought they were excruciatingly brutal to Ed over nothing. It was like a car wreck that kept happening over and over   

[Shadow]

Yeah I thought they were excruciatingly brutal to Ed over nothing. It was like a car wreck that kept happening over and over   

In real life they were not bad at all. Their understanding of English however was minimal, which added with Russian directness would always lead to a train wreck.
MrsShadow described them as feminists, the equivalent of the American ones.

[ML]

The T/R with "whites of their eyes'' photos.   

AntiDate labeled 2Tall a sex tourist even though he never had sex.   

Wasn't their furor over fact that he brought condoms with him to FSU?

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Wasn't their furor over fact that he brought condoms with him to FSU?

IIRC it started because he posted some innocent pics of the trip and some of the dates. Then he went back and altered the pics before eventually asking them to be taken down then, it was because he took condoms then yadda, yadda and then yadda. The guy couldn't catch a break. The jest of it was one of the radical AD'ers posted there he was a sex tourist and everything he wrote in the TR they were on like stink on pooh