Is it actually Russia that is imposing more and more costs?

[AkMike]

According to the Kremlin they volunteered to be there..

 And everyone knows that they wouldn't lie! 

[LiveFromUkraine]

According to the Kremlin they volunteered to be there..

 And everyone knows that they wouldn't lie! 

I take it you don't want to answer my question.

[Shadow]

It's not so much about the cheering for the dead ones as it is the Ukrainian lives spared because of their deaths.

If they had stayed in Russia and not invaded Ukraine they'd be breathing.

And if you father had used a condom someone else would breathe your air.

Every loss of life in such a conflict is tragic, regardless if it is a boy from Lviv who got drafted to fight for Ukraine or a mercenary who chose to be there for the money it would bring his family. You can say that those who actively chose to participate took the risk, just as American soldiers going to Iraq take it. Still that does not give you the right to feel happy about their death.

[AkMike]

And if you father had used a condom someone else would breathe your air.

And yet another personal attack.. I haven't said anything about you one way or the other..

 You need to calm down and take a breather.

[Shadow]

And yet another personal attack.. I haven't said anything about you one way or the other..

 You need to calm down and take a breather.

As long as you cheer about russian deaths, I will continue to attack you.

[LiveFromUkraine]

And yet another personal attack.. I haven't said anything about you one way or the other..

 You need to calm down and take a breather.

If you had Russian family, wouldn't you take all the cheering for death and suffering of Russians a little personal as well?  I am surprised this even has to be asked.  Like I said, some of you guys remind me of the groups calling for American deaths.

[AkMike]

Then have at it because it won't stop until they leave Ukraine for Ukrainians.

 I tend to cheer for the home team. 

 

[AkMike]

My wife has family in Russia. That doesn't change the facts of the invasion.

[LiveFromUkraine]

Then have at it because it won't stop until they leave Ukraine for Ukrainians.

 I tend to cheer for the home team. 

I lived in Ukraine for roughly a year and a half.  I love the place and hope for the best.  I do not cheer for any more deaths or suffering. 
It certainly isn't a game to me. 

[Shadow]

Then have at it because it won't stop until they leave Ukraine for Ukrainians.

 I tend to cheer for the home team. 

So be it. You will find out what you do wrong.

[LiveFromUkraine]

My wife has family in Russia. That doesn't change the facts of the invasion.

Well, hopefully they will suffer a lot so they can get their act straight, eh?  Maybe even die!  That will teach them for being born Russian. 

[AkMike]

In guess that you missed where I said that I don't cheer for the deaths of the Russians as much as I like/cheer for the fact that they won't cause any more Ukrainian deaths.

There is a direct correlation

[LiveFromUkraine]

In guess that you missed where I said that I don't cheer for the deaths of the Russians as much as I like/cheer for the fact that they won't cause any more Ukrainian deaths.

There is a direct correlation

Nope, I didn't miss anything including all the cheering for the economic collapse of Russia which will affect your family and many others. 

[Shadow]

In guess that you missed where I said that I don't cheer for the deaths of the Russians as much as I like/cheer for the fact that they won't cause any more Ukrainian deaths.

There is a direct correlation

If somethign happens to your family they will not be able to cause Ukrainian deaths. That should make you happy.

[AkMike]

Nope, I didn't miss anything including all the cheering for the economic collapse of Russia which will affect your family and many others.

  That will hasten the end of the war. The more economic problems in Russia the less they can spend on the invasion.. It's pretty simple..

 If and when the Russians get tired of these problems the sooner that they will change the course of their government. Another Maidan may well shake things up in the Kremlin.

[LiveFromUkraine]

  That will hasten the end of the war. The more economic problems in Russia the less they can spend on the invasion.. It's pretty simple..

 If and when the Russians get tired of these problems the sooner that they will change the course of their government. Another Maidan may well shake things up in the Kremlin.

Ok then, I hope your family suffers greatly so they can change their government to what we think is best for them. 

[Shadow]

  That will hasten the end of the war. The more economic problems in Russia the less they can spend on the invasion.. It's pretty simple..

 If and when the Russians get tired of these problems the sooner that they will change the course of their government. Another Maidan may well shake things up in the Kremlin.

A full scale invasion and taking over of Ukraine will also end the war.
As for a Maidan in Russia, why should people blame the government for sanctions that the EU and US take? More hardship will only rise the support.

[AkMike]

My family enjoys the change in the direction of the UA government, thank you.

 They want Ukraine to chart it's own course in the world and not be directed by the Kremlin.

[Shadow]

My family enjoys the change in the direction of the UA government, thank you.

 They want Ukraine to chart it's own course in the world and not be directed by the Kremlin.

Do they believe that being directed by the EU is the same as chart it's own course?

[LiveFromUkraine]

A full scale invasion and taking over of Ukraine will also end the war.
As for a Maidan in Russia, why should people blame the government for sanctions that the EU and US take? More hardship will only rise the support.

Isn't that what is happening?  From other forums, I have been hearing more American resentment blow back.  Luckily, many Russians can differentiate politics from the average person unlike many here.

[AkMike]

As for a Maidan in Russia, why should people blame the government for sanctions that the EU and US take?

 Except for the minor detail that their governments actions have lead to these sanctions..  But it's easier to pass the blame where the Kremlin would rather it be huh? LOL.

" Ignore the man behind the curtain." 

[Steamer]

  That will hasten the end of the war. The more economic problems in Russia the less they can spend on the invasion.. It's pretty simple..

 If and when the Russians get tired of these problems the sooner that they will change the course of their government. Another Maidan may well shake things up in the Kremlin.

So who do you think will tire of war first, Russians with economic problems or Ukrainians freezing?

[Shadow]

Isn't that what is happening?  From other forums, I have been hearing more American resentment blow back.  Luckily, many Russians can differentiate politics from the average person unlike many here.

While America may be involved, in this case I blame Brussels more for the whole affair.
It is not a coincidence that the Euro has been losing a lot of vaue as well lately.
And guess what? It does not make any difference to daily life.

[Shadow]

Except for the minor detail that their governments actions have lead to these sanctions..  But it's easier to pass the blame where the Kremlin would rather it be huh? LOL.

" Ignore the man behind the curtain." 

The actions were entirely logical for the Russian population. In fact even if they do not agree with the actions, most Western politicians can understand them.

[AkMike]

By your definition then it's OK to attack your brother or family?    After all UA was the 'little brother' and you sanction the attack on UA by 'big brother' Russia.