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Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« on: March 11, 2015, 08:47:25 PM »
The final and most important message left by Nemtsov:  Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments.


“Do you know what I think is the biggest problem with Putin? That he flouts the Ten Commandments. He thinks that murder is not a sin; he thinks that theft is not a sin. He thinks that all the Commandments are nothing in comparison [to] personal loyalty and allegiance. The man is deeply immoral. This is why we find the regime deeply immoral.”


http://imrussia.org/en/opinions/2192-boris-nemtsov-putins-main-problem-is-that-he-despises-the-commandments

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Re: Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2015, 09:05:02 PM »
You know Nemtsov didn't have a halo around his head either. I think I'd take this with a grain of salt.
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Re: Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2015, 10:15:01 PM »
You know Nemtsov didn't have a halo around his head either. I think I'd take this with a grain of salt.

Of course you would.  Nemtsov was such a horrible person, after all he dated such a beautiful and young 22 year old girl.  That really compares to murder, theft and racketeering, right?

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Re: Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2015, 07:40:26 AM »
Of course you would.  Nemtsov was such a horrible person, after all he dated such a beautiful and young 22 year old girl.  That really compares to murder, theft and racketeering, right?


It's not necessary to lose your temper and try to put words into my mouth.
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Re: Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2015, 07:45:59 AM »

It's not necessary to lose your temper and try to put words into my mouth.

Where did I lose my temper?  You may say I'm trying to put words in your mouth, but it's you who claimed that Nemtsov was not much different then Putin. 

Again, how does him dating a young woman compare with murder, theft and racketeering?  Invading another country and stealing their land?  Please back up your statement with facts.

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Re: Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2015, 07:48:02 AM »
Where did I lose my temper?  You may say I'm trying to put words in your mouth, but it's you who claimed that Nemtsov was not much different then Putin.

Again, how does him dating a young woman compare with murder, theft and racketeering?  Invading another country and stealing their land?  Please back up your statement with facts.


Where did he state that?

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Re: Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2015, 07:50:40 AM »

 You may say I'm trying to put words in your mouth, but it's you who claimed that Nemtsov was not much different then Putin. 


No, what I said is that Nemtsov didn't have a halo around his head either.
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Re: Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2015, 08:55:25 AM »
I do believe that Putin and Nemtsov are very similar.  They are (or were) without question, Russian men.  Their histories show self-absorbed individuals who are/were not afraid to step on those around them.  The difference is the way they see government applied. 

Putin's vision for government is both short sighted and weak.  The Soviet Union only survived for so long because it was able to subjugate the nations around it, propping up a weak industrial base and lack of infrastructure.  Now we have an ultimate ruler in Putin, who also is looking to prop up a weak infrastructure.  He is using ultra-nationalism and oil as a means to create popularity for his government.  Ultimately, he will fail.

Nemtsov had a history of vacillating between political factions as far back as his early days with Yeltsin.  But as he emerged as one of the only surviving opposition members to Putin's strongman tactics, his path became clear.  He advocated peaceable assembly and change in the government to a more open and less structured (meaning totalitarianism) society. 

I'm not sure that Russians deserve a government that is open and more democratic.  The Germans had to be brought to their knees before becoming champions of a democratic system.  Maybe that is what needs to happen with Russia.
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Re: Putin does not believe in the 10 commandments
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2015, 09:02:23 AM »

No, what I said is that Nemtsov didn't have a halo around his head either.

Meh.  I took it to mean the way I did, because Putin is a murderous thug who as Nemtsov said, does not believe in the 10 commandments. 

They are totally different characters.  Nemtsov may have been into young women, but that does not make him a murderer, a thief and a racketeer; who by the way is proud of getting away with stealing Crimea under a bunch of pretexts.

 

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