My Wife's First Dentist Appointment in the U.S.

[Markus]

I've read a few stories about the teeth of FSUW. Now, apart from a couple of teeth that are not perfectly straight, I did not know what to expect from my wife's first appointment. She did say she visited the dentist about 2 years ago in Russia. Well, guess what, she had 3 cavities that were filled in about 35 minutes (2nd visit) and all is well. The lady that cleaned her teeth said my wife's teeth were not bad at all, with respect to the cleaning process.

Is the quality of dentists in the FSUW close to the quality of Western Dentists? And is the fact that some FSUW have bad teeth the result of not going to the dentist?

Mark

[KenC]

OWW,
Man, you have got to be living right or your wife has some awsome dental genes! I still think I may have one more root canal to go after 7 years! Our dentist said that Russian dentistry was good, but that they used some dated materials for fillings and then proceeded to replace all of them. My wife went to the dentist in Russia on a regular basis and even had braces to straighten her teeth, but I still might have $7-$8K invested in those pearly whites. Be thankful.
KenC

[Markus]

Ken,

One thing I did notice about my wife's teeth, and confirmed on the x-ray in that it looked like the teeth right before her wisdom teeth, whatever they are called, were missing on both sides. I asked the dentist about it and he said she probably had root canal problems and the dentist just pulled them instead of fixing them. He said he didn't see any reason to fix the situation. I can say I was pleased with the outcome. I even got her white fillings. Next will be the whitening of the teeth but I'm first.

Mark

[PeeWee]

Ken,

One thing I did notice about my wife's teeth, and confirmed on the x-ray in that it looked like the teeth right before her wisdom teeth, whatever they are called, were missing on both sides. I asked the dentist about it and he said she probably had root canal problems and the dentist just pulled them instead of fixing them. He said he didn't see any reason to fix the situation. I can say I was pleased with the outcome. I even got her white fillings. Next will be the whitening of the teeth but I'm first.

Mark

Man. I had not though about this. I'm gonna email Elena right now and find out about her teeth! Thanks, lads.

Peewee

[Markus]

PeeWee,

I know you understand RNAV and RNP and hopefully HAR and NRS points, but, I must apologize in that I don't know exactly where you are with your FSUW. If she's with you, then my comments are irrelavant, but, if you're in the waiting stage, I don't think it would be a good idea to ask your lady about her teeth. I wasn't sure if you were joking or not.

I've asked my wife a few times after she arrived in the U.S. to show me her teeth so I could check them out with respect to cleaning. But, in her private way, she only showed her teeth to me a few weeks prior to the dentist visit. But, perhaps asking a lady about her teeth that's not with you is similiar to saying she's fat. That's the only analogy I could think of. Again, my comments are based upon my lack of knowledge of where you are at with your lady.

Mark

[PeeWee]

PeeWee,

I know you understand RNAV and RNP and hopefully HAR and NRS points, but, I must apologize in that I don't know exactly where you are with your FSUW. If she's with you, then my comments are irrelavant, but, if you're in the waiting stage, I don't think it would be a good idea to ask your lady about her teeth. I wasn't sure if you were joking or not.

I've asked my wife a few times after she arrived in the U.S. to show me her teeth so I could check them out with respect to cleaning. But, in her private way, she only showed her teeth to me a few weeks prior to the dentist visit. But, perhaps asking a lady about her teeth that's not with you is similiar to saying she's fat. That's the only analogy I could think of. Again, my comments are based upon my lack of knowledge of where you are at with your lady.

Mark

Well actually all I had planned on doing is asking her if she still had her own teeth or if she wore dentures. The subject of teeth comes up from time to time. But it seems that it has come up often enough that I do wonder about the teeth. To be honest with you I don't think even if I were married to a woman I'd ask her to show me her teeth. You are a much braver soul than I am.

Peewee

[Jumper]

peewee -
 just curiuos , have you met this particular RW ?

 the whole teeth thing..is amusing to me.
it kind of  shows the variaty of RW personalities and perceptions about the FSU.

my wife is a nut case, yeap certifiable -
about teeth of all things.
yeap she is weird about it..it's bizaare to me and she knows it lol
(she laughs at herself ,and agrees its a goofy obsession,and cant explian it)

 In Ukraine she used to go to the dentist 2 or 3 times per month,, sometimes more, never less.To the point her dentist told her , you have great teeth and no cavities since 3 in your teens ,  your natural color is already at the highest end of the whitness scale , so i cant really whiten them.Though i hate to turn away business please dont come so often ,.theres nothing to be done and you dont need them checked weekly!
 She has only been twice in the three years since moving here.once for a wisdom tooth extraction, another time to replace the older filling material
(like Kens wifes case)
but she looks at every gadget, or product, on the market regarding dental hygine or whitening.. and studies about all kinds of procedures.
i told he she really should have been a dentist and really missed her lifes calling, she agrees and would like that line of work..
long story, but some FSU women are goofy about teeth..and thier care.


ohh and YES !!
if i was married (and i am) i wouldnt hesistate to look at my wifes teeth..
you guys are funny.
that doesnt seem that intimate or taboo of a subject with a spouse?


admittedly asking someone in an email,or someone you did not know well,
 *hey hows your teeth?* 
would be pretty strange,.,
you arnt checking the age on a horse are you?
 

skolka let?

[Son of Clyde]

My wife has to have nmajor dental work like $10,000.00 but she plans to have the work done cheaper in Ukraine. I am not sure that the quality would be the same. Maybe it is why she is having this problem with some crowns breaking up. The materials in Ukraine may not be up to US standards.

[PeeWee]

peewee -
 just curiuos , have you met this particular RW ?

 the whole teeth thing..is amusing to me.
it kind of  shows the variaty of RW personalities and perceptions about the FSU.

my wife is a nut case, yeap certifiable -
about teeth of all things.
yeap she is weird about it..it's bizaare to me and she knows it lol
(she laughs at herself ,and agrees its a goofy obsession,and cant explian it)

 In Ukraine she used to go to the dentist 2 or 3 times per month,, sometimes more, never less.To the point her dentist told her , you have great teeth and no cavities since 3 in your teens ,  your natural color is already at the highest end of the whitness scale , so i cant really whiten them.Though i hate to turn away business please dont come so often ,.theres nothing to be done and you dont need them checked weekly!
 She has only been twice in the three years since moving here.once for a wisdom tooth extraction, another time to replace the older filling material
(like Kens wifes case)
but she looks at every gadget, or product, on the market regarding dental hygine or whitening.. and studies about all kinds of procedures.
i told he she really should have been a dentist and really missed her lifes calling, she agrees and would like that line of work..
long story, but some FSU women are goofy about teeth..and thier care.


ohh and YES !!
if i was married (and i am) i wouldnt hesistate to look at my wifes teeth..
you guys are funny.
that doesnt seem that intimate or taboo of a subject with a spouse?


admittedly asking someone in an email,or someone you did not know well,
 *hey hows your teeth?* 
would be pretty strange,.,
you arnt checking the age on a horse are you?
 

skolka let?

I have not met her yet, AJ. I do have a way, however, to check her teeth when I do meet her. I can say no more.

Peewee

[Sohkay]

Clyde,
It's possible you will end up paying twice by having her work done in Ukraine. Inferior products and procedures may need rework down the road...in America. Maybe it would be cost-effective to have things done here...right...the first time. Furthermore, if she is going to be living here, it would be good for a dental history to start being established. I've seen some pretty shaky dental work on my Ukrainian girl, and also heard some horror stories.

BTW...did you two resolve the Ukraine visit issue?

[Wayne]

A few years ago, I was writing to Natasha who lives in Simeropol, Ukraine.  She is a professor of denistry.  From what she wrote about it, dentists are very low paid in Ukraine.  I take it that the materials and procedures in Russia and Ukraine are far behind US standards.  If you girl is in Ukriane or Russia, I would only have emergency work or cleaning done there.  Major work should be done in America.

My Oksana is missing some back teeth; probably they could have been saved with a root canel and crown. 

There is the possibility of dental inplants for missing teeth, if you have the money!

[BC]

Wayne,

It is only a matter of finding good dentists.. Many EU folks go to former FSU countries to get work done there. (dentist work is not or only partially covered by socialized medicine here).  Many dentists in EU have the technical lab work (prosthetics etc) done in former FSU countries and mailed back to them. Savings up to 50% with good quality work and up to date materials.  A dentist in my wife's home town has specialized on foreign clients and good paying RU customers.  Also has offices also in Moscow and flys back and forth once or twice a week. 

Get your teeth done and enjoy a *free* flight, if not vacation.

BTW similar applies to cosmetic surgery and even surgical/laser eye corrections.

p.s.  As in every business there are good, bad, and scams..  get recommendations from folks that 'have been and done' first.

[Bruno]

BTW similar applies to cosmetic surgery and even surgical/laser eye corrections.

Cosmetic Surgery !!! This remember me a tour operator called "estetikatour"... all in : trip, hotel, and hospital expense... the advantage is not only financial, they have no waiting list !

http://www.estetikatour.com/en/

 :hairraising: After the sex tourist, the new business is beauty tourist !

[Zhena]

Wayne,

It is only a matter of finding good dentists.. Many EU folks go to former FSU countries to get work done there. (dentist work is not or only partially covered by socialized medicine here).  Many dentists in EU have the technical lab work (prosthetics etc) done in former FSU countries and mailed back to them. Savings up to 50% with good quality work and up to date materials.  A dentist in my wife's home town has specialized on foreign clients and good paying RU customers.  Also has offices also in Moscow and flys back and forth once or twice a week. 

Get your teeth done and enjoy a *free* flight, if not vacation.

BTW similar applies to cosmetic surgery and even surgical/laser eye corrections.

p.s.  As in every business there are good, bad, and scams..  get recommendations from folks that 'have been and done' first.

Dont know,I ve visited an expensive clinic to repair my teeth ( by the way by american technology) but I dont enjoy a quality...Maybe some dentists are talented and I didnt reach them,maybe my teeth are special but I would rather overpay in usa and would get the excellent job. Otherwise ,later you can pay much more to improve that what was done in Ukraine...

[BC]

A fiancee,

USA, EU, IT, Germany FSU, etc.. you can find bad anything everywhere. Saw a recent series about German dentists scamming their patients by overdoing work and overcharging. Something like only 3 out of 10 dentists prescribed only the necessary work at a decent price. Quite a few noted 'bad' work done before and wanted to replace everything so go figure.

My problem is I hate dentists anyway and tend to put it off till the last moment, then have to accept whatever dentist has an opening.. good or bad.. Luckily we're just talking the occasional filling, maybe (eeeek!) root canal and not major stuff... yet.

[Sohkay]

A fiancee',
What you are thinking is right. Wait until you are in the U.S.
Your chances of findng a good dentist here are much better.

[Son of Clyde]

BTW...did you two resolve the Ukraine visit issue?

Yep, she ain't going next week. Possibly in July or August.

[Zhena]

USA, EU, IT, Germany FSU, etc.. you can find bad anything everywhere. Saw a recent series about German dentists scamming their patients by overdoing work and overcharging. Something like only 3 out of 10 dentists prescribed only the necessary work at a decent price. Quite a few noted 'bad' work done before and wanted to replace everything so go figure.

I am sure. But I know myself where is a bad work and I ll repair only what I want to. Also better to go to someone whos advised by others. I didnt meet the us dentists yet ... but I am sure their technology is better -same as a plastic surgery which I would do only in usa,not here(if I would need ). Our plastic surgery is on the lower lewel still.

[Frank]

Clyde, 
Quite some time ago (when this website first started), Jack Bragg left some info. on the dentist he goes to in Kiev.  Apparently, the dentist is well known, treats well known entertainers in Ukraine, as well as being cheap priced by our standards.  My wife says many of the dentists in Kiev are from Germany.  You can have good, quality service in Ukraine or USA.  The reverse is also true.  I would not assume Ukraine dentists are inferior.  Frank

[calcowboy1]

I just picked up my wife from the Dentist this morning.  It was her visit (she arrived Dec/05) and no fillings required, they did a good cleaning and polishing, complete X-Rays and cost $450.00 CDN (on par now with the US bucks, whooooo hoooooo, hehehehe)

In fact, the Dentist walked out and wanted to talk to me.  He asked me where she recieved her two white fillings (I forget what they call them in Dentist terms) on her back molars.  She piped up "In Russia!!!!".  The Dentist said it was some of the best work he has seen in all his years.

I give a two thumbs up to her Russian dentist!!!!

[Zhena]

Hmmmm... ???
Frank,dont you know that famous dentists name?..
I guess you can meet the good or bad hands everywhere...Of course,here much less expensive.

[jb]

Funnily enough, my wife saw her Russian dentist yesterday.  I believe he was trained in Germany and is one of the most highly respected men in his field.  She had x-rays, will have good cleaning, a couple of fillings replaced, and a crown made for one molar, about $1,000+ here, $350 there.  Almost enough in saving to pay for the airfare to and back.

I salute a good Russian Dentist~!

[PeeWee]

Are some of you  suggesting that because it is less costly to have dental work done in EU and knowing full well that the work might be substandard to that in either WE or US that you would subject your love ones to the substandard results just to save a buck?

Come on. Everyone has a dental plan where they work. Why not step up to the plate and swing for the best? You get what you pay for, you know. Clyde...come on. There should not even be a question in your mind about this. Go American, lad. Dental insurance was invented for you.

Peewee

[catzenmouse]

Are some of you  suggesting that because it is less costly to have dental work done in EU and knowing full well that the work might be substandard to that in either WE or US that you would subject your love ones to the substandard results just to save a buck?

 I believe the point is that if you have a good dentist there you can get the same work done for less. U. S. dentists can be real hacks too so just because they are here does not make them better.

[BC]

Come on. Everyone has a dental plan where they work.

Oh yeah?  Maybe want to start a poll?