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Re: The Baltimore riot...
« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2015, 08:38:12 PM »
And it can't be Republican's fault, in that the entire Baltimore political machine is Democrat from top to bottom, and has been for decades.

Why did you not give us a trigger warning before your microaggression?

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Re: The Baltimore riot...
« Reply #101 on: May 04, 2015, 08:47:48 PM »
Why did you not give us a trigger warning before your microaggression?

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Re: The Baltimore riot...
« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2015, 09:43:20 AM »
There was a tiny blip in the local paper of a guy dying 2 days after being in police custody, and the info above.  I have heard nothing else, and no public comment.  Folks have been brainwashed to believe that cops are infallible, and incapable of doing wrong.

I wonder how often cops do misdeeds, and no one ever knows about them.  I suspect that 90% of the time, cops are acting inappropriately.  But their code of ethics is that they protect their fellow uniformed officers first and foremost, before they worry about protecting the rights of civilians or heaven forbid, actually following and upholding the Constitution.

I agree with you that there are some bad cops.  And that many times when somebody dies in their custody, it goes unnoticed.  That is the difference from when a white person dies in their custody (no media outrage, no outside agitator outrage) and when something happens like what led to the Baltimore riots. 

Since the thread is about the Baltimore riots, do you believe it was an appropriate response to throw large bricks at firemen and fire trucks trying to do their best to put out fires?  Do you believe it was appropriate to set the fires in the first place?  Was it appropriate to break into businesses and steal millions in inventory, from the very business that gives jobs to many in the community (Sportmart for example)?  Was it appropriate for the Mayor of the city to give a stand down order to the police?

There is a big difference between peaceful and lawful assemblies and those who lie in wait and then take advantage of a situation which has been whipped into a frenzy of lawlessness, often by outside agitators.

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Re: The Baltimore riot...
« Reply #103 on: May 08, 2015, 06:21:19 PM »
You're trying to rationalize and justify bad behavior.  Yes, cops deal with the dirtballs of society.  But not all citizens are the dirtballs.  Cops get paid to be professional with ALL citizens.  They are not allowed to "lose it" with ANYONE, dirtball or respectable citizen.



Most cops are professional with all citizens with some getting treated with respect while others get a beat down if they're unruly or wielding a weapon. Subduing suspects are in their job description so they get professional training to do so.


The problem is that cops have an us vs. them mentality, and view all citizens as dirtballs.  They view people as guilty until proven innocent, even though the law requires that people are innocent until proven guilty.



I've probably been pulled over 12 times in close to 30 years of driving. Half the time cops let me go without giving me a ticket. I'm a minority yet I don't have the problems others are experiencing. Probably because I address the officer respectfully, don't have a record of causing problems, and tell the truth by admitting fault to speeding.


There was a tiny blip in the local paper of a guy dying 2 days after being in police custody, and the info above.  I have heard nothing else, and no public comment.  Folks have been brainwashed to believe that cops are infallible, and incapable of doing wrong.



I don't think folks are brainwashed about cops. Many folks are tired of the troublemakers out there and don't care if one gets killed.


I wonder how often cops do misdeeds, and no one ever knows about them.  I suspect that 90% of the time, cops are acting inappropriately. 



90% is a very high number. I would guess it's less than 10% of the time. What is fact is cops are human and none of them are 100% perfect.


But their code of ethics is that they protect their fellow uniformed officers first and foremost, before they worry about protecting the rights of civilians or heaven forbid, actually following and upholding the Constitution.


Many cops enter the job believing in the mission. When they remove troublemakers off the street, it's not because they are doing it for themselves, they are protecting innocent civilians and upholding the Constitution.


Americans have the right to question authority, and to make sure cops are acting professionally at all times.

 


This is extremely important. Americans should have the right to question authority whether it's cops or our politicians. There should be stiff punishment for those that violate the law. Questioning government, businesses, or even internet forums can help keep those in management to do a better job of improving their organizations. Not all complaints are valid but the fact that people pay attention to what their doing may make them a little more better than what they are.


As far as cops go, there will always be a few bad cops in the force and it's important to get rid of them but unfortunately they have to commit a crime before being detected and unfortunately some crimes are murder. Those crimes make the news but unfortunately the millions of good deeds cops do everyday never get talked about.
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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Re: The Baltimore riot...
« Reply #104 on: May 08, 2015, 07:47:18 PM »
Baltimore is a perfect example of what happens when there is 50+ years of rule by Socialists, aka Democrats.  As is the bankruptcy of Detroit, and the pending financial mess in California.

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Re: The Baltimore riot...
« Reply #105 on: May 08, 2015, 08:32:02 PM »
You most certainly did forget.  Who said that Western liberal propaganda is not nearly as effective as Russian propaganda?

In fact more blacks were employed.  More black children grew up in solid two parent families.  Black literacy rates were higher.

If a black man got a black woman pregnant, he was expected to do the right thing and marry her and start a solid family -- by societal pressure -- mostly from conservative black society.

Once the government replaced the black man as being a woman's provider, this quickly changed.  Once societal expectations of what was expected of a man and a woman changed, black men quickly began to get multiple women pregnant, and many black women had multiple babies, from different fathers.

No need for a solid family from which to raise the children in a safe and literate environment, when "sugar daddy" government will give you handouts and public housing, which became black ghettos and a form of prison.

If you have not seen it.  There is a great documentary that was and may still be on Netflix.  It is called the Pruitt-Igoe Myth and is about the huge low income housing project in St Louis Mo. 

There are many interviews with people who lived there as children.  It is well worth watching and in the words of some of them, it is explained how the mothers had to basically run off the men in their lives to keep their benefits. 

It also chronicles a lot of racial feelings, logistic issues and demographic issues affecting the bigger cities during the early years of urban redevelopment.  Trust me if you can find it, it is worth your time to see.  I remember the Pruitt-Igoe from my younger days.  It was massive.  the big buildings in the back are the Pruitt-Igoe, not the slums in the front.  Those are what they were replacing with the hi-rises.

Here is a link to a YouTube trailer for the movie, assuming links are allowed.


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Re: The Baltimore riot...
« Reply #106 on: May 13, 2015, 02:58:05 PM »
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