The Russian/Syrian connection thread

[2tallbill]

None of the Democrats Has a Strategy for ISIS
BY RYAN LIZZA New Yorker

read the article story here
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/none-of-the-democrats-has-a-strategy-for-isis

[2tallbill]

I think it's an odd title to the article.


Putin comes in from the cold: Desperate world leaders
cosy up to Russian President to get him to join the fight against ISIS

Barack Obama seen sharing a joke with the Russian President at G20
David Cameron meets Vladimir Putin one-on-one for the first time in a year
British PM strikes a conciliatory tone in a bid to win backing of Russia
Putin accused of using airstrikes to target opponents of Assad and not ISIS
Deal agreed to cut off terrorist financing and tackle extremist ideologies




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3320174/Russia-offered-compromises-future-Syrian-dictator-Assad-return-joining-fight-against-ISIS.html#ixzz3rgo8cKDK

[2tallbill]

Feinstein breaks with Obama: 'ISIL is not contained'
By Eliza Collins

Sen. Dianne Feinstein sharply contradicted President Barack Obama on Monday, disagreeing with his claim that the Islamic State is "contained."
“I’ve never been more concerned,” the California Democrat and Intelligence Committee ranking member told Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC Monday. “I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding.”


There is more read all about it here: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/dianne-feinstein-obama-isil-215935#ixzz3rgp61b00

[mendeleyev]

Putin and Obama were all smiles for the camera, and one photo in particular was being "shopped" to American networks as the photo of choice by the White House. At one point when they were walking along some tables Putin even put his hand on Obama's shoulder as cameras snapped. Off camera, however, was a very different picture. Putin is certain that he has a deal on Syria that includes Russia managing the "transition" in Syria, NATO actually drops more than a few token bombs, and my sense is that Obama will look the other way if any further misdeeds happen in Ukraine.

[Gator]

Putin is certain that he has a deal on Syria that includes Russia managing the "transition" in Syria, NATO actually drops more than a few token bombs, and my sense is that Obama will look the other way if any further misdeeds happen in Ukraine.

And time marches on with Crimea forever a part of Russia and Donbass pseudo-independent.   Ukraine still has the opportunity to move closer to a Western economy.

What could the feckless  Obama do other than look away?  Hopefully Obama will help the Kurds. 

[tfcrew]

What could the feckless  Obama do other than look away? Hopefully Obama will help the Kurds.

He won't.......the Turks don't want this-----------------

....some 400,000 Kurds in and around the town of Kobane in northern Syria, on the Turkish border, are being besieged and assaulted by massed legions of Islamic State killers armed with scores of tanks, armored personnel carriers, and heavy artillery. Against these, the Kurdish defenders have only AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades. The Kurds have called on the U.S. to send in air strikes to take out the jihadist forces. In response, the administration sent in two fighter jets Saturday, which destroyed two Islamic State tanks and then flew away. The Kurds are begging for arms. The administration has not only refused to send arms, but is exerting pressure both on our NATO allies and on Israel not to send any either. Over 150,000 Kurds have fled their homes to try to escape to Turkey, but they are being blocked at the border by Turkish troops. Meanwhile, Turkey is allowing Islamist reinforcements to enter Syria to join the Islamic State, while Islamist elements of the Free Syrian Army, funded and armed by the United States, have joined forces with the group in the genocidal assault on the Kurdish enclave.

http://lonelyconservative.com/2014/09/why-wont-the-us-help-the-kurds-in-this-war-on-the-islamic-state/

Looks like Obama was wearing a flack jacket under his coat at this summit speech?

[2tallbill]

He won't.......the Turks don't want this-----------------

http://lonelyconservative.com/2014/09/why-wont-the-us-help-the-kurds-in-this-war-on-the-islamic-state/

Yeah, it would require leadership to protect the Kurds and he doesn't have
that.

[2tallbill]

One thing about Team Obama is that their incompetence is becoming legendary.
Just yesterday he was bragging (lying) that they had everything under control
and that we should just dump 100,000 Syrian refuges per year around America
because he would keep track of it all.

The only thing that equals his incompetence and dishonesty is his stubbornness
and pretentiousness. He actually doesn't even know that he's a f#ck up.   

Syrian ‘Refugee’ Already MISSING IN LOUISIANA
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/breaking-syrian-refugee-already-missing-in-louisiana/


Refugee resettlement group admits: We don’t track them
BY OLAF EKBERG
http://theamericanmirror.com/syrian-refugee-group-admits-we-dont-track-them/

[2tallbill]

Francois Hollande calls on Russia& US to unite to defeat Islamic State
French president gathered his politicians in Paris to declare war on Isil, as Barack
Obama insisted that if there were an easy option, they would have done it

read all about it here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11999553/Hollande-calls-on-Russia-and-US-to-unite-to-defeat-Isil.html

[2tallbill]

Just over 2% of Syrian refuges are Christian. Frankly, I am surprised that they had
any.


Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/syrian-christians-are-greatest-peril-least-likely-be-admitted

[2tallbill]

Poland, Bulgaria and others tell Merkel which way to fook off.

Paris Terror Unites East Europe Against Merkel's Refugee Plan
By Aaron Eglitis  Bloomberg

Bulgarian Foreign Minister Daniel Mitov on Tuesday called discussions on quotas for
migrants “absurd” following the events in Paris, while Poland’s incoming Prime Minister
Beata Szydlo said a day earlier the EU should review its stance on immigration, pledging
to accept refugees only if they don’t endanger security.



Poland’s Interior Minister Mariusz Blaszczak, of the Law & Justice party that won last
month’s election after promising to take the country out of the “EU mainstream,”
recalled the Nazi destruction of Warsaw during World War II when asked about
German politicians’ comments suggesting Poland should show more solidarity in
trying to resolve the migrant crisis.

“This is another example of German arrogance,” Blaszczak told TVN24 on Tuesday.
“We are in Warsaw, which was destroyed by Germans agents, who murdered
50,000 people, including women and children” during a raid on its Wola district
in 1944, he said.

read the whole story here
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-17/paris-terror-uniting-east-europe-against-merkel-s-refugee-plan

[2tallbill]

Belgian PM threatens to close ‘certain radical mosques’
Christian Oliver in Brussels

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Belgian prime minister Charles Michel has threatened to close “certain radical
mosques” in the Molenbeek neighbourhood of Brussels that security services
are increasingly viewing as a launch pad for the worst terror attack in French
history.

But as masked officers swooped on the forlorn district on Monday, blocking off
roads and rounding up suspects, many residents suggested that curing
Molenbeek would not be so straightforward.

read all about it here
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/765af108-8c7b-11e5-a549-b89a1dfede9b.html#axzz3rmYwYxam

[2tallbill]

As if Obama would do something just because the GOP asked and it made sense.
He wants to import hundreds of thousands of dangerous refuges into the US and
nobody will stop him!!

The GOP leadership in the house and senate already gave up when they raised
the debt limit without any restrictions. They have the power of the purse but not
the backbone.

Republican leaders call for ‘pause’ on Syrian refugee program

read all about it here
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/11/17/ryan-calls-for-pause-on-syrian-refugee-program/



House GOP Seek to Cut Off Funding for Syrian Resettlement Program
BY JOHN HUDSON FP

read all about it here
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/16/house-republicans-seek-to-cut-off-funding-for-syrian-resettlement-program/

[fathertime]

One thing about Team Obama is that their incompetence is becoming legendary.
 

I'm surprised but to this point there haven't been any major terrorist attacks here in the USA on Obama's watch...Under Bush we had an enormous one...I don't assign the blame solely to Bush for that one, nor would I likely assign blame soley to Obama if one occurs here before his term is up....it is a group effort

and that we should just dump 100,000 Syrian refuges per year around America
because he would keep track of it all.

I don't think we should take 10's of 1000's of Syrian refugees into our society.  It is too risky, and we have enough internal issues already.  I am hoping that ultimately Obama agrees.   
Fathertime!   

[Muzh]

I'm surprised but to this point there haven't been any major terrorist attacks here in the USA on Obama's watch...Under Bush we had an enormous one...I don't assign the blame solely to Bush for that one, nor would I likely assign blame soley to Obama if one occurs here before his term is up....it is a group effort


Fathertime!

You forgot to mention that under the Sun-Tanned One we found the mastermind of 9/11 Bin Laden, killed him and appropriated his pornography trove.   
And what happened under Bush? Ah, yes. Regime change. War profiteering. ISIS. AND Bin Laden stashing copious amounts of pornography.

[Gator]

He won't.......the Turks don't want this-----------------

True, the Turks have a long dispute with  Kurds, giving rise to  Kurdish terrorism in their fight for independence.  Things change, however.  If the Kurds fight ISIS on the ground, and the Turks don't, US policy may change.

[BillyB]

I'm surprised but to this point there haven't been any major terrorist attacks here in the USA on Obama's watch

The Boston bombings in retaliation for America killing Muslims was major. A few died and almost 200 injured at the Boston Marathon.

You forgot to mention that under the Sun-Tanned One we found the mastermind of 9/11 Bin Laden, killed him and appropriated his pornography trove.   

Obama was able to locate Osama because Bush put the troops on the ground. Clinton also found Bin Laden in Afghanistan after the first World Trade Center bombing but refused to kill him due to potential collateral damage. Of course we know the World Trade Center got hit a second time.

[fathertime]

The Boston bombings in retaliation for America killing Muslims was major. A few died and almost 200 injured at the Boston Marathon.

True.  Two US raised brothers did do this. Not as big as others, but the intent was there.


Fathertime!

[Muzh]

Just over 2% of Syrian refuges are Christian. Frankly, I am surprised that they had
any.


Syrian Refugees in U.S. Include 2,098 Muslims, 53 Christians

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/syrian-christians-are-greatest-peril-least-likely-be-admitted

Is this outfit up to par with Factcheck?


http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian-refugees/

[Anotherkiwi]

Is this outfit up to par with Factcheck?


http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian-refugees/

Muzh, you should know by now that "facts" simply spoil a good story.  "Rhetoric" is far more compelling, especially if there is an end for which this is the means. 

[2tallbill]

Muzh, you should know by now that "facts" simply spoil a good story.  "Rhetoric" is far more compelling, especially if there is an end for which this is the means. 

I post the articles, I'm not their editor. Many of these fact checkers are liberal
groups pretending to be unbiased who will twist any fact to suit their liberal interests.
None of the fact checkers disputed the percentage of Muslims to Christians

[2tallbill]

HOURS AFTER OBAMA TAUNTS GOP WITH ‘WIDOWS’ FEMALE SUICIDE BOMBER EXPLODES IN PARIS

Once again, reality has intruded on President Obama’s divisive, his anti-science talking
points. Just hours after the president used the term “widows and orphans” to taunt the
GOP over their opposition to flooding America with Syrian refugees ISIS has promised
to seed with terrorists, a female suicide bomber in Paris blew herself up as police closed
in.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/hours-after-obama-taunts-gop-with-widows-female-suicide-bomber-explodes-in-paris/

[2tallbill]

Revealed: The enemy within. Nearly SEVENTY are arrested in
America over ISIS plots - and they include refugees who had
been given safe haven but 'turned to terror'



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html#ixzz3rsHPXFeR

[mendeleyev]

True.  Two US raised brothers did do this. Not as big as others, but the intent was there.

FT, a slight point of correction: the two brothers were raised primarily in Kyrgyzstan and the Russian republic of Dagestan. They, as were their parents, deeply influenced by the Russian wars in Chechnya.

In addition to the deaths they caused, the two managed to wound 264 civilians and 15 police officers.

[Muzh]

I post the articles, I'm not their editor. Many of these fact checkers are liberal
groups pretending to be unbiased who will twist any fact to suit their liberal interests.
None of the fact checkers disputed the percentage of Muslims to Christians

LMAO, and C(onservative)N(ews)S(ervice)network is fair and balanced, right?