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« on: June 18, 2006, 06:41:18 AM »
First of all let me apologize to the women who read the title of the forum. With standards for women it is easy to think about height/weight, beauty, character etc, all the things that men have as minimal requirement in their search for a partner.
This is not what we are trying to establish here.

What the discussion is about is to get a set of criteria that agencies and other websites should follow to enlist women in their service. The idea here is to look at the FEMALE perspective.
What I would like to have opinions on is how much private information should a service be allowed to ask, how much they should be allowed to give out.
In short, how do women think they should be treated by agency or online service.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2006, 12:59:20 PM »
Shadow,

Wouldn't this ALSO include what we think are acceptable standard of behavior for the women themselves?

For example, we could say that once a woman tells an agency she is engaged, they should flag or remove her profile within 7 days (just a hypothetical) - and that would be a standard which applies to the agency. But what about the woman's responsibility to report the engagement to the agency? Should we not have a standard that says something like: Upon acceptance of a proposal of marriage, the woman is expected to promptly report her change in status to any agency(ies) which is representing her.

As I see it, we would have a series of 'standards' which the woman would be expected to adhere to - and maybe the agency is the mechanism to provide those standards to her - but they remain HER accountability.

And BTW - virtually ALL of the standards must meet the test of equity. In other words, if we are going to require the women to do it - we should be able to find its equivalent on the Men Standards side.

Make sense?

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2006, 01:13:57 PM »
As the agencies are the ones to rules this, it does make sense that they put some standard issues in their TOS.
But both with women and with men we have to understand that if we deal with people who lie there is no standard that we can provide that will stop them.

One of my favourites is the visa waiver form that tourists have to fill when entering the US.
The questions that ask 'Do you intend to commot crimes or terrorist activity' do not serve the purpose of weeding out criminals, as no criminal in his right mind will answer 'yes'. They do serve a purpose should a person on tourist visa waiver be arrested for criminal activity.

With standards of conduct it is the same. Women who have no bad intentions might find certain questions funny, others would take offense. Standards should be kept short, equal and clear.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 09:41:05 AM »
Throwing out a few thoughts for the RWD members:

Should a lady whom you express interest in, be compelled to divulge any of the following:

* Current - or previous - infectious diseases ?

* Previous abortions ?

* Previous 'unusual' sexual behaviors - i.e. menage a trois (or more), lesbian experimentation, S&M, etc.

Some things which obviously ought to be divulged are:

* Previous marriage(s)

* Children of previous marriage(s)

* Previous criminal activity

Each of these three, are likely to be discovered if a K-1 visa is processed.

What about:

* Should the girl divulge if she is meeting (or has met) with previous western suitors?
* Should she divulge if she has a current RM boyfriend?
* What obligation does she have to be entirely faithful to a WM suitor - and when in the relationship does this 'obligation' begin?
* What obligation does he have to keep the agency informed of her variable dating/engagement circumstances? For example, if the agency owner were to see one of the girls out on the town with a local guy, while at the same time planning for meeting with WM - what are the respective obligations of the agency and of the girl?
* How does the girl identify when an 'interest' has crossed the line into something more obligatory?

Come on folks - certainly you have some opinions about these things. Get em out on the table!

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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2006, 09:53:42 AM »
Throwing out a few thoughts for the RWD members:

Should a lady whom you express interest in, be compelled to divulge any of the following:

* Current - or previous - infectious diseases ?
      Current - Yes. Previous - Would depend on the disease. Hep, HIV - Yes. Something cured and over with then not necessarily.

* Previous abortions ?
     If it becomes serious then Yes.

* Previous 'unusual' sexual behaviors - i.e. menage a trois (or more), lesbian experimentation, S&M, etc.
     If it is a continuous lifestyle then Yes. If not, then not necessarily.

Some things which obviously ought to be divulged are:

* Previous marriage(s)

* Children of previous marriage(s)

* Previous criminal activity
     Agree that all three of these should be disclosed.

Each of these three, are likely to be discovered if a K-1 visa is processed.

What about:

* Should the girl divulge if she is meeting (or has met) with previous western suitors?
     Not until the relationship goes beyond casual dating. The man should also disclose this to her.

* Should she divulge if she has a current RM boyfriend?
     Yes, if she is currently and seriously dating locally she (in my opinion only) is not overly serious about a foreign relationship. If they are casual dates then No

* What obligation does she have to be entirely faithful to a WM suitor - and when in the relationship does this 'obligation' begin?
     When they begin discussing getting engaged or when they make a vow to each other to be exclusive is when they both should cease any and all other relationships.

* What obligation does he have to keep the agency informed of her variable dating/engagement circumstances? For example, if the agency owner were to see one of the girls out on the town with a local guy, while at the same time planning for meeting with WM - what are the respective obligations of the agency and of the girl?
     Until the girl becomes serious about a man she is free to have a life outside of the agency scene. With that said, this could also be an indication of a professional dater so the agency should speak with her about her intentions and probably keep a keener eye on her behavior.

* How does the girl identify when an 'interest' has crossed the line into something more obligatory?
    I would hope that the couple would be able to make this decision together and would be on the same page with the choice. The grey area is where one is serious and the other is not. The agency (if one is involved) may have to step in here to keep things clear for both parties if the uninterested party is hesitant to do this.

Come on folks - certainly you have some opinions about these things. Get em out on the table!

- Dan

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2006, 12:22:49 PM »
Interesting standards some of which should be addressed earlier with some later in a relationship with any woman.

* Current - or previous - infectious diseases ?  Yes, but only after you meet in person.  Remember, it is the responsibility of the man to engage in safe sex to protect himself regardless of the origin of his female partner.
* Previous abortions ?  Not necessary until advanced in a relationship.
* Previous 'unusual' sexual behaviors - i.e. menage a trois (or more), lesbian experimentation, S&M, etc.  Not necessary until advanced in a relationship.

Some things which obviously ought to be divulged are:

* Previous marriage(s)
* Children of previous marriage(s)
* Previous criminal activity
Agreed, absolutely to all three of the above.

* Should the girl divulge if she is meeting (or has met) with previous western suitors?  No not until one travels over to meet her.
* Should she divulge if she has a current RM boyfriend?  YES, YES, YES!!!
* What obligation does she have to be entirely faithful to a WM suitor - and when in the relationship does this 'obligation' begin?  Obviously, once a marriage proposal is accepted and when the engagement ring is placed on her hand.  However, if the relationship is advanced, see Michaelangelo's very successful posts, I feel that exclusivity should begin before the engagement.
* What obligation does he have to keep the agency informed of her variable dating/engagement circumstances? For example, if the agency owner were to see one of the girls out on the town with a local guy, while at the same time planning for meeting with WM - what are the respective obligations of the agency and of the girl?  It is the responsibility of the Agency to keep the WM advised if she is involved with a local fellow.  Dating is dating and by informing the WM that the woman is actively dating locally, the WM can decided if he still wants to meet her.  The Agency owner could suggest that the WM meet another Agency Member.
* How does the girl identify when an 'interest' has crossed the line into something more obligatory?  This is difficult because it is when the woman has agreed that the relationship has advanced past the just visiting/getting to know you stage.

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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2006, 01:31:12 PM »
What other questions and/or issues need to be addressed?

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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2006, 02:14:48 PM »
Remember these are ladies and women.....We do not differ that much the world over and I ask you....

Would you ask these Questions of yout mother, sisters or a casual friend? Would you ask an American women these questions?  And what do you supposse they would tell you? :)

Would you be willing to truthfully answer such questions if you were asked?
Never had an abortion? Did you ever cause one?

Just as you were not born yeasterday and have a history, so has she.

These women are smart.. well educated and have met life headon in most instances..alone......In short they are survivors.

Your choice is whether you will allow the past to remain in the past.... yours and hers. A few area are need to know areas but br aware there are and will be off-limits ares you will want to avoid.

Such knowledge is great to toss about in arguments and fights isn't it? And is not that easy to forget....

These were issues I often heard in Family counseling.....

I want to know... but, do I have the right to know and how will I handle it if I do know? Think about it....

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2006, 02:21:14 PM »
  This may not seem important to some, but Elvira and I traded
comprehensive life stories early on. Her relationships with sister,
mother and father, life changing events, the untimely death of
her father, how she coped with the devaluation of the ruble
and managing single parenthood - there was little left about
which to wonder. I, in turn, conveyed the same information.
By the time we decided to file, we had a very keen sense of
one another's value systems and expectations - so much more
than a checklist of factoids.

  Again, this tactic may not qualify as a standard per se; however,
for us, it proved a tremendous cornerstone in our development.

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2006, 05:56:10 AM »
Very good points Mamma D. We all have a past and have said and done things that we would not do now and in some cases would not be very willing to talk about or be proud of. We were all different people 15, 10, even 5 years ago. Would she have wanted to be with us then? Would we have wanted to be with her then?

So how do you handle that? Are you mature enough to take the things that she tells you and keep them out of the present? Are you willing to tell her about your dark side? Could you handle it if she threw your past back in your face? Would you do the same to her?

These are big issues that can easily damage or even kill a relationship. Much of this goes back to getting rid of your personal baggage before you look to the FSU for a partner. It also involves a great deal of personal integrity and respect. Respect for yourself and especially respect for her.

To be successful in this you really need to get beyond the pettiness and childish behavior that seems to be a big part of many relationships here between AW/AM. "You did this! Yeah!, Well you did that". And so on, and so on. I see it often with my co-workers in their 20's and 30's when they complain about their partners. I can barely think of a half dozen AW who could handle the life that our FSUW have had. Yes, these are strong, resilient, bright, and beautiful women.

Are you willing to take this on? Are you strong enough to take this on? If you are, and if you can show the qualities needed to be successful then you will indeed have found a treasure more valuable than any pot of gold or high end job will ever be worth.

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2006, 07:41:26 AM »
It is funny that most of my conversations with Lena prior to us meeting face to face were about current and future life topics.  We got a very good handle on just who we were at that current time in our lives. There was only a very superficial look into each of our pasts before we met in person.  After realizing that we were both seriously interested in each other, we only then explored our past histories in much more detail. 

I remember having most of a day to myself in Russia and I used that time to make some notes.  I made a list of things from my past that I thought were important in shaping just exactly the person whom I had become.  I remember it being a very deep and soul searching event in my life.  Maybe Russia does that to you?  In any event, it led to the two of us having a very serious heart to heart conversation.  I know from my side, that I tried to explain the most important details of my life history to her.  The life events that shaped my life.  The things I thought were important for her to know.  There was a long talk about my previous long term marriage and the eventual divorce.  What was good and bad about it.  How I felt about my children, family and friends.  What my current financial status was and what my future potential opportunities were all discussed.  It was a very emotional conversation.  I basically bared my soul to her.  And she did the same to me.  There were many tears shared at this time.

That may have been the most important conversation of my life.  Because of this conversation, a bond was established between us that has not diminished in the 8 years since.  This conversation completely exposed me for who I was and still am today.  I know that it was an incident that allowed us to touch each others heart and soul.  Lena has since told me that it was during that conversation that she realized that I was a man that she could love forever.  I know that I also knew at that time that we had something very very special too.

I read this thread about "standards to acquire a woman" and I kind of chuckle.  No one "acquires" anyone else.  In the best case scenario you "allow" your soulmate into your heart just as she "allows" you into hers.  Then you proceed through the rest of your life with a true life's partner.  What do you share with a partner for life? Everything!
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2006, 09:17:02 AM »
KenC :
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That may have been the most important conversation of my life.

I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes we'd rise at 4AM and
just sit and talk at the kitchen table - we reached the point where
no topic was too painful or too embarrassing. For men who find it
too difficult to discuss such personal past, KenC's idea to write up
a list beforehand is an excellent tool to overcome any reluctance.

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2006, 09:29:00 AM »
Just to get back to tha basic topic.

Mamma D your post is valuable. The issue is that we want to find what kind of information should be a minimum level that an agency (or web service) asks from a woman. This information is used to determine if she is serious, and to protect male clients.
My opinion is that thre should be equal standards for men and women as much as possible.

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2006, 09:13:28 AM »

This is not an easy road to walk... and each of you must do it YOUR way.

But it all boils down eventually to TRUST. A matter of FAITH.

Remember that trust once broken, it is awefully hard to put back together again...Remember Humpty Dumpty? Well, you can forgive a tresspass, but few are likely to ever forget.... and nothing will ever be the same.

There are things that the other has a right to know.....
But this will also very from couple to couple...

I congratulate those of you, who are secure enough to tell all....but is the other party willing and ready to hear and carry your past burdens?

Remember friends do not hurt friends.

You know that often we are most happy to unload our issues onto another ... and therefor allow them to carry them...viola....we no longer have any problems. We gave them to someone else.....It it a fair and right thing to do?


So go slowly and give these issues much thought....once spoken, words are not taken back.....and the damage can be huge. 

I always ask myself ...
Does he need to know?
Will it help or change the situation?
If not, is it important enough to burden him with it?
Will it cause hurt?

Now my husband is confidant to several of his nieces and nephews...and grandchildren. They all trust him to not flap it around....I also have this same trust. I would not doubt that we probably share the same knowledge!

BUT we do not discuss it with each other and only after the death of my grandchild have I learned, in some areas this is true.

She would approach a problem with "What do you think...", and by comparing several opinions reach HER answer.

Again you must all do it your way, and may you reach the best possable conclusion....

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2006, 12:16:17 PM »
Can I answer
Throwing out a few thoughts for the RWD members:

Should a lady whom you express interest in, be compelled to divulge any of the following:
It depend on what you mean under "interest". If I chat with you 2 times and you think I am interesting person should I really divulge all this?
But if we talk about potential serious relationship then


* Current - or previous - infectious diseases ?
yes, and not only infectious but any chronicle diseases . As well as a man should do the same

* Previous abortions ?
No


* Previous 'unusual' sexual behaviors - i.e. menage a trois (or more), lesbian experimentation, S&M, etc.
only if she is into this. Man also should do this

Some things which obviously ought to be divulged are:

* Previous marriage(s)
sure

* Children of previous marriage(s)
sure

* Previous criminal activity
sure

Each of these three, are likely to be discovered if a K-1 visa is processed.

What about:

* Should the girl divulge if she is meeting (or has met) with previous western suitors?
hard question. It is a past so better don't touch it

* Should she divulge if she has a current RM boyfriend?
hm... if she has a b/f why we talk about serious relationship?

* What obligation does she have to be entirely faithful to a WM suitor - and when in the relationship does this 'obligation' begin?
after they start living together

* What obligation does he have to keep the agency informed of her variable dating/engagement circumstances? For example, if the agency owner were to see one of the girls out on the town with a local guy, while at the same time planning for meeting with WM - what are the respective obligations of the agency and of the girl?
So what? she is only going to meet this wm, maybe it will not works out

* How does the girl identify when an 'interest' has crossed the line into something more obligatory?

Come on folks - certainly you have some opinions about these things. Get em out on the table!

- Dan
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2006, 12:59:51 PM »
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* What obligation does she have to be entirely faithful to a WM suitor - and when in the relationship does this 'obligation' begin?
after they start living together

 :o  :o  :o

Ouch.  Well, coming from Russia and "antidate," I guess that's good to know.

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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2006, 04:05:35 PM »
I think this will boil down to COMMITMENT......That magic moment when both of you, have commited to spend all of your tomarrows as :THE VERY BEST FRIEND......not just best friends....but the top of the list!

When you are ready to extend that faith and tust, and reciprocate in kind.

Anything less will end in hurt, and there is no going back. As I have said before, you will never have that faith and sweet closness you began with. That is a great loss...... Can you live with that? Do you want to?
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2019, 12:05:01 PM »
Should a lady whom you express interest in, be compelled to divulge any of the following:
* Previous 'unusual' sexual behaviors - i.e. menage a trois (or more), lesbian experimentation, S & M, etc.


So even after "50 shades of grey" it is still considered "unusual"?  :popcorn:
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2019, 12:17:17 PM »
you have to understand what the average male on this web site is:

a simple, mostly uneducated, middle class, christian, small town dweller...
you get the picture...

so what's your story мышь?
hmmm

ya khotel by uslyshat...
pravda!


but, if you are a plokhaya russki
then you should know...
I'm a" Russ Buster"
and if someone has a Russian problem...
I'm the one they call...
yeah, that's right!
If there's a Russian problem in your neighborhood
who ya gonna call?
Russ Busters!!!

keepin moy glasskies on you....
hmmmm hmmmm
horrosho misch?
first slovo bout Krim or Putin, etc....
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2019, 01:03:59 PM »

So even after "50 shades of grey" it is still considered "unusual"?  :popcorn:

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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2019, 01:37:50 PM »
Olga returns after 9 year absence ??


Yeah! Shit happens LOL


Been at another forum mostly...
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2019, 01:44:02 PM »

you have to understand what the average male on this web site is:

a simple, mostly uneducated, middle class, christian, small town dweller... you get the picture...

so what's your story мышь? hmmm

ya khotel by uslyshat... pravda!

but, if you are a plokhaya russki then you should know...
I'm a" Russ Buster" and if someone has a Russian problem...
I'm the one they call...
yeah, that's right! If there's a Russian problem in your neighborhood
who ya gonna call? Russ Busters!!!

keepin moy glasskies on you... hmmmm hmmmm horrosho misch?
first slovo bout Krim or Putin, etc...

What exactly was the purpose of that partially rhymed verbal diarrhea above? Sorry don't have enough time on my hands right now to decipher all that goobledygook, and to translate it into human \ meaningful language...
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2019, 01:47:55 PM »

Been at another forum mostly...

You were putting theory in practice, may be ?.... :popcorn:

PS: FSoG was an awful film - Jamie Dornan is FAR better in the Fall,  WATCH IT ( if you can understand his accent ) with the bidialectal Gillian Anderson ( for the male interest )

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2294189/videoplayer/vi337686297




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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2019, 01:53:27 PM »
"What exactly was the purpose of that partially rhymed verbal diarrhea above? Sorry don't have enough time on my hands right now to decipher all that goobledygook, and to translate it into human \ meaningful language.."




G R U sorry you read my post?
i'm thinking you're more like from Моско́вский райо́н than from Москва
judging from your accent

did you know that every woman who has either said or written the word "diarrhea " to me has ended up becoming a close friend
I mean except for you...
nothing at all to do with being an immodium distributor either
synthetic opiates are just a little side-line of mine
you like "silver" don't you?

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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2019, 04:32:29 PM »
you have to understand what the average male on this web site is:

a simple, mostly uneducated, middle class, christian, small town dweller...
you get the picture...


Is this another Hillary example of deplorable?  A deplorable may very well enjoy kinky, probably a different version than yours.       

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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2019, 04:49:16 PM »
"Is this another Hillary example of deplorable? "

nooo...
I love rednecks, they're so entertaining
my children have WAY funnier redneck stories than I do
for example,
my oldest daughter who is going to pre-med in Sept
removed an arrow from a boy's leg in school by herself
his parents didn't have medical insurance
so he just snapped off the arrow because he said his mother's boy friend would have beaten him
if he had to go to the ER
so my daughter took it out and did a perfect job!!!
but now any time an uninsured teenager in my daughter's HS has a medical issue they come running to her right away!!
I freakin love rednecks
I spend a shift M-F watching so their and my kids don't "get a cap busted on their ass"
cuz this is America
if that's not love
what is?



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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2019, 11:52:12 PM »
Quote from: krimster2

i'm thinking you're more like from Моско́вский райо́н than from Москва

"You might very well think that, I wouldn't possibly comment" (copyright: TomT more than 10 years ago on another forum)
Quote from: krimster2
judging from your accent
Are you always so quick in judging things you don't have even the slightest idea about - e.g. accents you have never heard?
Quote from: krimster2

you like "silver" don't you?
If your question is about metal, then yes, I prefer Ag to Au.
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« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2019, 12:05:31 AM »
you have to understand what the average male on this web site is:
a simple, mostly uneducated, middle class, christian, small town dweller...


I have suspected something like that - but nothing illustrates the above statement better than the way you write.


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« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2019, 03:01:00 AM »
"You might very well think that, I wouldn't possibly comment" (copyright: TomT more than 10 years ago on another forum)

Tellytubbie No-oh.... ;)

TomT cribbed it from this character from 1990  - Netflix made their own version - [ Edited from 15 ] 25 years later...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Urquhart


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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2019, 03:52:55 AM »

TomT cribbed it from this character from 1990  - Netflix made their own version - 15 years later...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Urquhart




Thanks for the info, Mobster!  :clapping:
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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2019, 08:50:31 AM »
I totally see why there is such an emphasis on outside recruiting for future work going on in Russia now
I mean ask anyone who works in the tower at Kirova Street in Khimki
and youll hear whispers about it
sure theres still plenty of low level robotniki stuff going on for you locals
but none of you will ever make it out of your little cubicle
and then add the failure of Maria Masha Butina...
you see why your bosses dont have faith in you any more
also better to hire foreigners who dont incite sanctions

little mishka, don't be surprised if one day you work for me or my daughter
I will be in Moscow with her this August for her interview at a "charitable organization"
she speaks Russian AND English "accent free" and looks like a Russian super model
and is one of the best public speakers I've personally met (thanks to her drama coach) in EITHER language!
our goal is to connect one of the major oligarch backed charities for the blind in Russia
to its American equivalent whose President, just happens to be my cousin...
it will be someone like her and not someone like you who will be the "most cherez mutnyye vody"
I know it's not as good as "orphans" but we have to move on...

yeah baby!!!
when YOU play both sides
YOU ALWAYS win!



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« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2019, 11:04:13 AM »
I totally see why there is such an emphasis on outside recruiting for future work going on in Russia now
I mean ask anyone who works in the tower at Kirova Street in Khimki, and youll hear whispers about it
sure theres still plenty of low level robotniki stuff going on for you locals - but none of you will ever make it out of your little cubicle
and then add the failure of Maria Masha Butina... you see why your bosses dont have faith in you any more
also better to hire foreigners who dont incite sanctions

little mishka, don't be surprised if one day you work for me or my daughter

I will be in Moscow with her this August for her interview at a "charitable organization"
she speaks Russian AND English "accent free" and looks like a Russian super model
and is one of the best public speakers I've personally met (thanks to her drama coach) in EITHER language!
our goal is to connect one of the major oligarch backed charities for the blind in Russia
to its American equivalent whose President, just happens to be my cousin...
it will be someone like her and not someone like you who will be the "most cherez mutnyye vody"
I know it's not as good as "orphans" but we have to move on...

yeah baby!!! when YOU play both sides YOU ALWAYS win!

slovo tvoyey mamichka!!!


Just wondering, who's that "little teddy-bear" whom you're addressing the above mixture of totally uninformative (and irrelevant for forum purposes!) phrases?  :popcorn:
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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2019, 11:22:42 AM »
malen'kaya mish
ne sprashivay, po kom zvonit kolokol

tak chto sovershenno nevinnaya prichina privodit vas syuda?

are you lonely, curious, seeking English practice, or a "professional" of some sort?
let me out of courtesy allow you the opportunity for you to introduce yourself to the audience...
the floor is yours...

Ladies and Gentleman
may I have your undivided attention for a moment please...

(ok Olga idti!)
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« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2019, 11:35:34 AM »
Krimster, Olga has been around maybe longer than you.

She doesn't need to introduce herself, although I don't remember much of her specifics.

But an update from her would be nice.
Winston Churchill.  The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

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« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2019, 11:55:16 AM »
po kom zvonit kolokol
This is a nonsensical translation.  It's like posting "noodles on your ears" to an English speaking audience.  Moreover, you've used it incorrectly, as John Donne's intention was about humanity's interconnectedness.  That concludes the pedantic lecture for today.

This post was composed without the aid of google.


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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2019, 12:21:19 PM »
"This is a nonsensical translation.  It's like posting "noodles on your ears" to an English speaking audience."

oh yeah, well "yalky palky"

libertines always take liberties
and this is what you really accuse me of...
sure, I'll just pay the ticket officer, here ya go, off to the jacuzzi now, catch ya later
I'll be sure to wear my speedos
wouldn't want to face the accusation of willy waving while exiting the jacuzzi doncha know... 
someone, I don't know WHO, seems to obsessively categorize my posts with this title
it appears they must derive some kind of satisfaction just by typing the word "willy"
imagine what joy the actual thing would produce
jeez what kinda joint is this place?
the inmates are in charge of the asylum obviously

that's OK BO enjoy your linguistic superiority
is it my fault that father would now allow Russian to be spoken in our home when my sister and I were present (it WAS an actual rule in our house)
5 yr from now I'm going to have my fiefdom in Доне́цкая Наро́дная Респу́блика
is it better to be loved or feared I wonder?

so BO, questions

when you see the Russian military rescuing Jews in Odessa, how will you feel?
what will it take to make Right Sector turn against the Ukrainian government?
how many titushki do you need before you can use the word "pogrom"?

now let's see how smart you REALLY are
TAK! (no translation needed!!)
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2019, 05:24:17 AM »


are you lonely, curious, seeking English practice, or a "professional" of some sort?




I am considering the two forums as a useful tool for:


a) having a glance into the minds of US \ UK males;


b) improving my English skills (especially considering that during last 8-9 years most of my work was with German \ French languages).


I truly despise narcissistic, self-centered idiots with exaggerated egos; so once I notice some of them in the cyberspace, my hands are itching from the desire to cut their (virtual) balls... and reaching for a keyboard.

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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2019, 05:35:34 AM »
Krimster, Olga has been around maybe longer than you.
She doesn't need to introduce herself, although I don't remember much of her specifics.
But an update from her would be nice.


Also yeah... when counting time from my first personal computer and my friend profile at FriendFinder, I've been around some 20 years.


Re.Forums - there was some forum that died in 2009 or 2010...  Russian women forum or something? Registered there in 2007 IIRC, started posting. Stewart from Manchester presumed I am a male from English-speaking country. Had to give him my Skype user name and allow him hearing "So what the f*** do you want from me?"  :D   ;D 


As it often happens, a nice fight was the beginning of the long virtual friendship, that even led to editing a chapter of the Stewart & Olga's book.


Posting now and then, in between relationships  :P


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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2019, 05:41:42 AM »
Krimster, Olga has been around maybe longer than you.

She doesn't need to introduce herself, although I don't remember much of her specifics.

But an update from her would be nice.


And a photo.


Spencer's site Russian Women Guide or RWG was one of the first big forums. This site followed it, then came RUA, Manny's site. "Planet Love" goes way back into the 90s. There was another site called G7 mostly a bunch of guys trying to figure when their fiancee or wives were going to get their visas.
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« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2019, 05:43:37 AM »
And a photo.
Not before all other forum members (without exceptions!) will post their photos. Equality, ya know?  ;D
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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2019, 05:49:23 AM »
My photos are all over my thread "Starting My New Life in the Republic of Georgia" with over 140,000 views. It is in the Starting Out section of this board. Olga you should check it out.

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« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2019, 05:50:40 AM »
 :welcome:
Welcome back, Olga
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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2019, 06:26:58 AM »

Also yeah... when counting time from my first personal computer and my friend profile at FriendFinder, I've been around some 20 years.


Re.Forums - there was some forum that died in 2009 or 2010...  Russian women forum or something? Registered there in 2007 IIRC, started posting. Stewart from Manchester presumed I am a male from English-speaking country. Had to give him my Skype user name and allow him hearing "So what the f*** do you want from me?"  :D   ;D 


As it often happens, a nice fight was the beginning of the long virtual friendship, that even led to editing a chapter of the Stewart & Olga's book.


Posting now and then, in between relationships  :P


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Welcome Olga
It is difficult to believe you are still available Olga. I am sure some lucky man will soon be able to call you his own and make you his Duchess of Davos or Countess of Salzburg. I wouldn't meet your standards, but there are plenty fine men here. They aren't losers, rather Balshoi Medviets with wallets to match. I am sure they will be lining up. It might be hard to stand by that equality you espouse, and picking up half of all their traveling expenses. So I recommend you just entertain the best five or six suitors

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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2019, 07:44:22 AM »
Olga you should check it out.


Thank you very much, but I do decide myself what I should do - and what I shouldn't  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2019, 07:48:09 AM »
It is difficult to believe you are still available Olga. I am sure some lucky man will soon be able to call you his own and make you his Duchess of Davos or Countess of Salzburg.
I am sure they will be lining up. It might be hard to stand by that equality you espouse, and picking up half of all their traveling expenses.


Am I smelling some slightly hidden irony in your post, GenMisch?  ;)


On a serious note: not aiming at Duchess status at all. But wouldn't sacrifice any more years of my one and only life to dragging someone out of 80K debt hole.



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« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2019, 12:28:52 PM »
my hands are itching from the desire to cut their (virtual) balls...

im sure your malenkie rookie arent the only part of you itching with desire
maybe your problem with men relates to this extreme form of foreplay you describe...
how does the game work, are the men supposed to beg you not to hurt them while you cradle their yaytsa in one hand while holding a britva in the other?
I've experienced MANY different variations of this kind of female sexual dominance game though not involving the threat of genital mutilation (except in Kazakhstan!)





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« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2019, 02:01:29 PM »

Quote
Olga you should check it out. 

Thank you very much, but I do decide myself what I should do - and what I shouldn't  :rolleyes:

Olga, the word "should" has different meanings.  You responded to Maxx's comment as if he were commanding you.   Of course you would not accept commands from anyone.   

"Should" can also indicate something is probable.  E. g.,  "Will we arrive on time?"........ "We should."

Maxx's use of "should" is more of a suggestion, implying  his site probably contains something you will find interesting.  Most of us would need to open the site to decide if it is interesting.  Being a RW  you are blessed with already knowing everything.       

FYI, I found Maxx's site interesting.   




 

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