Greece - KOS 7 -14 June 06

[wiz]

Last November I received a message from a Russian woman of 45 years old together with her photo. She had seen my profile in one of the free dating websites and got in touch.

Olga is a, very well, University educated woman, has a highly paid job in the Russian Public sector and speaks very good English. She has travelled and worked abroad but now is based in Moscow. She is divorced for over 10 years with an adult son and lives alone.

Over the winter months we continued our correspondence and finally last April we made the decision to meet in one of the Greek islands. Olga, after my suggestion, booked a holiday in the island of Kos, paid the money for the trip and the Visa and she had to wait till the last week, few days before she was due to fly out, to find out if she was going on holiday or not. That is Russia for you she kept telling me, when I was doubting her about coming to Kos.

Well she was due to depart for Kos on the 7 June in the afternoon and she phoned me excited the Thursday before (1 June) to tell me the good news. It took me only a phone call, the same day, and I booked my own ticket to fly out on Saturday the 3 June, which I did.

As it happen Olga’s flight time of arrival changed again and she flew in on the morning of the 7 June but that was not a problem as it was easy for me to find out the exact time of arrival of her flight, so I was at the airport when her flight landed.

Going through immigration control it took nearly 2 hours, because there was only one desk open.  Local agents for the tour company were complaining to the head of immigration for the unfair and not nice (slow) treatment of the new and first time visitors from Russia to the island but the poor man explained to us that it was the fault of the Russian airline company, which had advised him afternoon arrival time. He had scheduled 4 officers for that flight but then he was advised the new time of arrival only 1 hour before the flight landed.

Kos island is not a large holiday destination and only has around 15 men and women immigration officers and of course those scheduled for the afternoon shift, were not easy to get in touch. So the boss had to do the work on his own, as the other officers were busy with other European flights.

On the day of returning home (14 June) the same problem happened again. Olga was advised the night before of the flight time changes from afternoon departure to morning one. The immigration boss was very grateful to me advising him 3 hours before departure of the new times.

When Olga finally came out I was very pleased because she was looking exactly as her photos and she told me the same too. We both recognised each other instantly.

It was midday by then and very hot. Olga told me that she could not wait to go swimming, so instead of taking her straight to her hotel I drove her to the south of the island where a friend of mine has some studios right on the beach and I always go there to swim in the sea. Christina, the owner is a very kind woman and we were able to use one of her studios for changing clothes and using the other facilities.

Having spoken to Olga for so long time by e-mail and on the phone, finally meeting her was like meeting an old friend and we both felt very comfortable in each other’s company. Very quickly she got used to me talking fast (all Greeks do) and we had no problem whatsoever in communicating apart from the odd word here and there.

Olga was spellbound by the clear Blue Mediterranean water, the sandy beach and the hot sun so we end up playing in the sea for a long time. Me on the other hand I was very pleased to see that she was an attractive and a voluptuous woman. I have to admit that I like curvy women and Olga had plenty of them.

Later in the afternoon I took Olga to her hotel to check-in and after she had a shower and refreshed herself we went out for dinner. Later that evening she asked me to take her to the hot water springs for a swim and we had a wonderful time there. Then we went to a nice café bar (Villa café) with superb views over the sea to have a drink and we were lucky to find live Greek music entertainment, which Olga loved. It was well after midnight before I took her back to her hotel. After dropping her at her hotel I went out for a drink or two to a friendly bar and went to bed after 3 AM.

Next morning to my surprise I received a message at 8 AM from Olga telling me that she was ready to go out and I had to crawl out of my bed and have a cold shower to wake up. We stopped to a seaside café where I had a couple of coffees to wake up my brain and then we went off to explore the island.

For the next 6 days I took Olga everywhere on the island, introduced her to my local friends and of course we continued swimming during the day in the sea and also the evenings in the hot water springs stopping for our last drinks and entertainment to the Villa café before going to bed.

From the moment we met Olga was not afraid of kissing me and during the first couple of days I noticed that she hardly could contain her excitement. Of course been a good Russian woman had to stick to their habit of not having sex before the third day and me I decided to play along not to spoil our holiday. Meanwhile I could sense the temperature and pressure raising in her, so I tried to be a gentleman and left her alone to make the big decision.

On Friday after lunch at 3 PM we both felt tired and we needed to have a siesta, as it was very hot we went to take a sleep in my apartment. I had a shower and went to bed and nearly was falling asleep by the time she came out of the shower but then things changed rapidly and for the next hour or so I was making love to her. Poor Olga didn’t know what hit her and she was exhausted by the time I finished with her and fell asleep. When we wake up after two hour she couldn’t believe that I was rearing to make love to her again and that I could not hold my hands off her and was delighted making love again. Of course she was enjoying every minute of my attention and told me that she did not expected such new experience to happen with us.

From there on she started not been reserved and enjoyed every minute of it. Her experience in love making was limited to one position, called missionary and her experience with me was a good eye opener, she told me several times.

We spend most of our holiday time together and I had the opportunity to observe her character and reactions to certain conditions especially when socialising with my friends. She became very fond of the Russian girlfriend of one of my friends and we had several dinners together with them.

Olga has been divorced for many years, brought up her son on her own and has a well paid job and a high up position with one of the Ministries and she is part of the middle class, as we say over here. With that in mind and having lived an independent life for very long time on her own, with no man around to share her life she showed some arrogant trades and selfiness in her character, which did not pleased me. She also appeared to be stingy and never made the slightest effort or offer to make any contribution to our expenditure, not that I would have accepted anyway, giving me the impression that in her view the man has to provide for everything. She brought me two small presents from Moscow, a cheap key ring and a small bottle of brandy where I bought her several expensive presents. Of course she did not hesitate to spend hundreds of dollars buying presents for her friends and family.

I am sure that these trades in her character would cause us problems if we ever decided to take it further and lived together but I think with time these problems could be eliminated, as I am also a very strong willed person and would make sure she understands that sharing life together with another person means you share everything.

I think the stumbling block in our newly relationship will be that she has not thought about the consequences of moving to live in another country, leaving behind family, job, house, child and friends and joining a new society with a different culture.

Well for now she is in a daily touch with me and I guess reality has not sunk in her and she is still in holiday mode but soon I will know what is around the corner. As they say only time can tell, so for the moment I can not do anything else about it but wait!

[Shadow]

Olga has been divorced for many years, brought up her son on her own and has a well paid job and a high up position with one of the Ministries and she is part of the middle class, as we say over here. With that in mind and having lived an independent life for very long time on her own, with no man around to share her life she showed some arrogant trades and selfiness in her character, which did not pleased me. She also appeared to be stingy and never made the slightest effort or offer to make any contribution to our expenditure, not that I would have accepted anyway, giving me the impression that in her view the man has to provide for everything. She brought me two small presents from Moscow, a cheap key ring and a small bottle of brandy where I bought her several expensive presents. Of course she did not hesitate to spend hundreds of dollars buying presents for her friends and family.

I am sure that these trades in her character would cause us problems if we ever decided to take it further and lived together but I think with time these problems could be eliminated, as I am also a very strong willed person and would make sure she understands that sharing life together with another person means you share everything.

I think the stumbling block in our newly relationship will be that she has not thought about the consequences of moving to live in another country, leaving behind family, job, house, child and friends and joining a new society with a different culture.

Wiz let me make some comment here. You once proclaimed to have some experience, yet it surprises you that she did not make any contribution to the expenditure and call er stingy. Perhaps you forgot that in Russia the man is the provider. If you do proceed and she chooses to live in a different country, you will be the one bringing in all the money. If she is stingy, it will be better for you.

[wiz]

Shadow

You missed the contradiction in her character.......and the reason I called her stingy.

She bought presents for family and friends spending hundreds of Dollars and nearly bought a fur coat for 2800 USD, so she is not stingy on that score you refer!

Of course I am aware of the fact that the man in Russia expected to be the provider. When we were planning the holiday, unaware of her financial circumstances, I offered to help financially and I got a terse reply back telling me that she is capable of looking after herself and that in Kos she will pay her own part, otherwise she is not coming, so I had to agree.

Just for your information in Greece, men expected to pay the bills and that is what I did.

Don't worry and that trade in her character will be rapidly corrected, if we get together, as I did with her selfishness!

I deliberate do not phone her, so she has time to think everything over and she does.

Since last wednesday I have received several e-mails telling me that she misses my company, likes my personality and can't bear living alone anymore. She constantly apologises for the failings in her character which I exposed and told her in Kos, so not all is lost. I do not say anything to her about that and try to keep calm head, because I do like her a lot and of course there is a huge chemistry between us.

The problem is elsewhere and I have mentioned in my last paragraph.

Thank you for your comments and Chivo will be happy to know that I am planning to apply for a business visa so I can visit her several times. Actually she has a year long Visa to UK so she will be coming over here too, sometime later.

Meanwhile I am off to Kiev on Friday for 5 days meeting another lady I have been talking for over 2 months now daily by messenger and on the phone. Possibly I will meet another one too!

I have to keep my options open, as it is early days with all these women.

The funny thing is that when before I was finding very difficult to meet mature women (over 40) who spoke good English and have no children commitments, now I keep receiving many e-mails from attractive women and I have to keep my  plan on course, which takes plenty of effort, if I don't want to miss my chance finding the right woman for me.

[Albert]

"Of course been a good Russian woman had to stick to their habit of not having sex before the third day"

This is not the typical 'habit' of RW in their 40s.

"for the next hour or so I was making love to her."

Why are you using the words 'making love.'  You were having sex with her.  You do not yet love this woman, nor does she yet love you.

"Her experience in love making was limited to one position, called missionary and her experience with me was a good eye opener, she told me several times."

Surely you don't always believe what a woman tells you about her previous experiences.  And don't you know that women are quite willing to flatter a man?

Also, most FSU women look upon the man (any man) as the billfold who is there to buy them gifts.  They (most of them) do not think it is necessary for them to reciprocate with any gifts.  You were very lucky (from a monetary standpoint) that she was willing to pay anything for this trip.  When it comes to money (but not necessarily other things) FSU women (most) are takers, not givers.

[goleta2sin]

At your age I am sure you had a hat full of viagara that you were popping like tic-tacs. Get over yourself. This is a trip reports section not a place to auditioning your wares as a romance novelist.  What a joke!

[wiz]

"Of course been a good Russian woman had to stick to their habit of not having sex before the third day"

This is not the typical 'habit' of RW in their 40s.

"for the next hour or so I was making love to her."

Why are you using the words 'making love.'  You were having sex with her.  You do not yet love this woman, nor does she yet love you.

"Her experience in love making was limited to one position, called missionary and her experience with me was a good eye opener, she told me several times."

Surely you don't always believe what a woman tells you about her previous experiences.  And don't you know that women are quite willing to flatter a man?

Also, most FSU women look upon the man (any man) as the billfold who is there to buy them gifts.  They (most of them) do not think it is necessary for them to reciprocate with any gifts.  You were very lucky (from a monetary standpoint) that she was willing to pay anything for this trip.  When it comes to money (but not necessarily other things) FSU women (most) are takers, not givers.

So what is the typical habit of RW?
The board is full of stories where the 3 day waiting period is norm. I think also that is norm in the west too!

Making love to a woman does not necessary means that you have to be in love with her first?
It is how you interpreter your expression of having sex and what you do in bed, with a person you find very attractive. On the other hand it is much nicer expression than having sex or fuck.

No I never believe any woman when she tell me for her previous sexual experiences. I make my own mind of how well she is sexually educated or not. Ask any woman of any age how many previous lovers she had and she will reply 3-4. Meanwhile she may have had sex with the whole red army but you will be no wiser of that!

I am aware that they are takers and not givers but I only made this comment because of her insistance to pay her way. It appears now she has discovered a different way of life, in Greece, which she likes and want to join it and live and not just Exist, as she does now in Moscow!

Just for your information things have moved on and now she is offering to visit me in UK and also pay for our holiday in Greece in July, so we can meet much earlier than the planned October vacation! Of course I wil not accept that but I do have a problem with the timings, which does not allow me enough time to explore my other 2 possibilities and I have to be careful not to mess up my chances.

Today I am going to Kiev to meet a woman with whom we are getting on very well for the past 2 months and in July August I am planning meeting another woman from St. Petersburg, with whom I am talking also for 3 months. As I said in my post I want to keep my options open and not make rush decisions.

I have to admit that I find Olga very attractive and I liked her a lot while in Kos. At the moment I let her think about the big decision that she may have to face moving to UK.

[wiz]

At your age I am sure you had a hat full of viagara that you were popping like tic-tacs. Get over yourself. This is a trip reports section not a place to auditioning your wares as a romance novelist.  What a joke!

Speak for your self and don't worry about me. You probably need sacks of Viagra where thank God so far I have no need for it!

An attractive woman and the Greek atmosphere and sunshine makes all the difference. Of course you will not know that in Nevada.

Finally I do not give a toss about your views regarding my writing skills or not!

[2tallbill]

Wiz, great trip report. I am sure that many who read it will enjoy it. I am not going to argue with others,
Good luck,

Bill

[Elen]

So what is the typical habit of RW?
The board is full of stories where the 3 day waiting period is norm. I think also that is norm in the west too!

THIS board even being full of "such" stories could not be any prove about any habbits of  RUSSIAN WOMEN It's useful always keep in your mind that you deal with particular specific part ( little one) of RW population who decided to marry abroad

[Turboguy]

Humm, some russian women want to marry abroad
Some american men want to marry a broad.

[beattledog]

i would prefer to marry under the laws of the country in which I reside.  Many times we must do what the lady prefers.


Beattledog

[wiz]

i would prefer to marry under the laws of the country in which I reside.  Many times we must do what the lady prefers.

Beattledog

I prefer marriage to take place in the country that is more suited to the specific requirements and necessities of the couple.

I live in the UK and I will never marry anybody in an FSU country nor in the UK but in Greece for the reasons I have already explained!

Why make my life more difficult when there is an easier way?