if a woman wants to come and meet a man?

[alex330]

Alex, how did you meet your Wife? Did you just get on a plane and, once in her FSU city, meet her through a social media site like VK or Mamba (By FAR the best way to meet a FSU woman)?  Or did you, unfortunately, meet her through that "honest, noble" website Anastasiadate?

She was the front page model on Anastasia.

[treadmilldude]

Are you joking or serious Alex? Sometimes my sarcasm meter is not very sensitive.

If you are being serious, how long have ya'll been married for? I ask because, back when I was using Anastasiadate, I chatted with many many women on that site. There is a very good chance I chatted with her.

I guess ask her if she remembers chatting with a huge bodybuilder dude from Texas. If she says yes, more than likely we chatted together. 

[BillyB]

my question is,   should I say something to her about this?  or just leave it alone.   she may take it the wrong way.  and everything we have written to about,  may end.    again,  I thank you for all advice...

If the marriage plans are going to end, it should be your decision. Agencies can write for the girls and not take their profile down when asked but when's the last time your girl video chatted with guys? It seems treadmill dude had a bad experience with your girl and is it true, she's  got lots more tattoos than the photos you been showing us? I would not end a relationship based off the testimony of a guy on the internet but I think there are concerns that need to be addressed based of treadmilldude's testimony.


This thing is going to bother you and you should not enter marriage with the lady until you're comfortable. Don't tell Alina you been checking on her but found a forum for advice on immigration and visas and learned she was a video chat girl at a scam marriage agency. Don't accuse her of wrong doing. She may respond in a mature way and tell you it was a job to make money or be immature about it. If she acts immature and attacks you, say goodbye. If she tells you the truth, it's up to you if you want to proceed with her. Trust building and figuring out if she's family oriented is going to take longer. If it were me, I know I can catch quality women that doesn't have a questionable past. Saying goodbye isn't difficult for me but if you feel she's as close as it gets to the best woman you can catch, you may want to see if she's improved from her past before deciding to spent the rest of your life with her. 

[treadmilldude]

Mamba.ru  search in Belarus (DO NOT search in Ukraine on Mamba, the women from Ukraine on mamba are really no better than the the women from Ukraine on Anastasiadate / Hotrussianbrides) only....you will not be able to find a Belarussian woman who has even heard of or knows what a PPL site is. Out of curiosity, I have asked most girls I am communicating with on Mamba from Belarus if they know what a marriage agency is, if they know what Anastasiadate is....I have never met a single woman from Belarus who even knows what a marriage agency is, never met a Belarussian woman who has ever even heard of Anastasiadate. FYI Marriage Agencies are illegal in Belarus and they have been illegal in Belarus for a long time.

The women in Belarus on Mamba really amaze me every single day with their kindness and decency. These are very GOOD women in Belarus with very LOVING hearts. Many of them have Children and are divorced, sick of drunk Belarussian men who smoke and cheat on them, and are looking for an American Man just like myself or YOU, OP. I have dated some extremely GOOD women in the US, but I will say that the average woman from Belarus on mamba, whom I have very long conversations with on skype, whatsapp etc..is better than the average woman from the US....KINDER with a lot more LOVE in their hearts than the average American woman.

You want to fish on Anastasiadate, you are fishing in the wrong pond my friend.

[IamMaiC]

If the marriage plans are going to end, it should be your decision. Agencies can write for the girls and not take their profile down when asked but when's the last time your girl video chatted with guys? It seems treadmill dude had a bad experience with your girl and is it true, she's  got lots more tattoos than the photos you been showing us? I would not end a relationship based off the testimony of a guy on the internet but I think there are concerns that need to be addressed based of treadmilldude's testimony.


This thing is going to bother you and you should not enter marriage with the lady until you're comfortable. Don't tell Alina you been checking on her but found a forum for advice on immigration and visas and learned she was a video chat girl at a scam marriage agency. Don't accuse her of wrong doing. She may respond in a mature way and tell you it was a job to make money or be immature about it. If she acts immature and attacks you, say goodbye. If she tells you the truth, it's up to you if you want to proceed with her. Trust building and figuring out if she's family oriented is going to take longer. If it were me, I know I can catch quality women that doesn't have a questionable past. Saying goodbye isn't difficult for me but if you feel she's as close as it gets to the best woman you can catch, you may want to see if she's improved from her past before deciding to spent the rest of your life with her.

thanks for the advice,   alina and I are still writing to one another and I plan to visit in may.   though treadmilldude's  post was a concern.   and I read it,  when I met alina.  I did not see any tattoos.  unless he's meaning tattoos of sarcasm? 

her friend irina had a tattoo at her lower back,  that's who has a tattoo. 

at this point,  I have not much invested in alina.  we are friends,  sure.  I would like it to continue.  I was just alarmed that she would still be on different websites.  and I don't want to go charging at her accusing her of anything.  she is still single,  true?  and can do what she pleases.   that's all I was looking for,  just advice.   we will see what happens in may,  it is not far from now.   and I am preparing things for that time,  she is not on tour as a DJ that month.  that is why she agreed to it...if it does not work out in may.  I tried.  all I can say. 

we have been on skype the past month.  and it's still the girl I met..I posted a picture..not sure how old it is.  but no tattoos that I can see.  she posted on her instagram,  when they returned from a DJ gig.

[treadmilldude]

I might add that some of the nicest, kindest, most genuine women on mamba are women who do have a child. If you are willing to accept a woman with a child (I am actually searching for a woman with a child and I prefer a woman with a child), I think you can do extremely well. I mean extremely well, a woman who will be a Princess to you if you will treat her like a Princess.

[treadmilldude]

Find Alina on Vk. Yes, she is on VK. Yes, she recently covered herself in "lovely" tattoos.

There are GOOD, single women out there. And you are choosing to spend time and resources on Alina (Face in Hands). 8 years from now, Alina will still be on Anastasiadate. And 8 years from now, there will still be stupid guys like myself pissing their hard-earned money down the toilet chatting with Alina on Anastasiadate. Do you honestly think Alina has any plans of ever leaving Anastasiadate to be with you or me or any other man? She makes way too much money on Anastasiadate to ever leave that scam website to be with you or I. She's been there for more than 4 years. She will be there forever. She ain't leaving for me or you.

[IamMaiC]

Find Alina on Vk. Yes, she is on VK. Yes, she recently covered herself in"lovely" tattoos.

There are GOOD, single women out there. And you are choosing to spend time and resources on Alina (Face in Hands). 8 years from now, Alina will still be on Anastasiadate.

ok,  are we talking about the same woman?   I have already met her in person.   last december...and she did not have any tattoos.  her friend irina,  who I also met had one tattoo. 

[alex330]

Are you joking or serious Alex? Sometimes my sarcasm meter is not very sensitive.

If you are being serious, how long have ya'll been married for?

Totally serious man. Been married four years, we met about 6 yrs ago.  I will be the first to recommend not using the site though.

[treadmilldude]

I deleted my account with Anastasiadate in complete disgust and anger back in June, I believe. But I still kept my Russianbrides account just in case I met a girl on Mamba or VK whom I wanted to see if she was also scamming men on Anastasiadate/Russianbrides. Alina is still on my contact list on Russianbrides, I just logged onto Russianbrides this second, and guess who is logged into RussianBrides this very second....Alina. Alina ID: 1651486 Age 25 Birthdate: February 4, 1991   http://www.russianbrides.com/pages/lady/profile/profilepreview.aspx?LadyID=1651486

I did find her on VK back in April or May, I believe, so it has been about a year. Maybe my memory is failing me, maybe she is not covered in tattoos, maybe I am confusing her with some other girl? I dunno, it has been about a year. That being said, I did chat with Alina on 4 different occasions for roughly 45 minutes each chat, and she completely lied her ass off to me about everything in her life - as verified through checking her on VK. Additionally, she has now been on Anastasia for close to 5 years!! 

Good luck to you Brother. You are making success an impossibility for yourself. You want Alina, have at her!! 

[mhr7]

She was the front page model on Anastasia.

Interesting, now I'm racking my brain trying to picture the cover model for Adate a few years back.

[alex330]

Interesting, now I'm racking my brain trying to picture the cover model for Adate a few years back.

Archives 

There were 3-4 girls on the front page that year. It was when they were using the hotter younger models and were rotating them.

[ML]

ok,  are we talking about the same woman?   I have already met her in person.   last december...and she did not have any tattoos.  her friend irina,  who I also met had one tattoo.

Yes, of course it is the same woman.  There is only one Alina residing in FSU.

[IamMaiC]

I deleted my account with Anastasiadate in complete disgust and anger back in June, I believe. But I still kept my Russianbrides account just in case I met a girl on Mamba or VK whom I wanted to see if she was also scamming men on Anastasiadate/Russianbrides. Alina is still on my contact list on Russianbrides, I just logged onto Russianbrides this second, and guess who is logged into RussianBrides this very second....Alina. Alina ID: 1651486 Age 25 Birthdate: February 4, 1991   http://www.russianbrides.com/pages/lady/profile/profilepreview.aspx?LadyID=1651486

I did find her on VK back in April or May, I believe, so it has been about a year. Maybe my memory is failing me, maybe she is not covered in tattoos, maybe I am confusing her with some other girl? I dunno, it has been about a year. That being said, I did chat with Alina on 4 different occasions for roughly 45 minutes
each chat, and she completely lied her ass off to me about everything in her life - as verified through checking her on VK. Additionally, she has now been on Anastasia for close to 5 years!! 

Good luck to you Brother. You are making success an impossibility for yourself. You want Alina, have at her!! 

I didn't meet her at a website,  I met a friend of hers,  who is married to a neighbor's son near my parent's home.  the whole thing happened by accident actually.   when I met her friend,  she suggested to me about alina.   this was end of october beginning of november last year.   I then actually met her in person the middle of december.  and I am planning to go to kiev in may.    I don't know what she told you,  but she told me this.  she is an actress and a DJ.   she seem sweet,  if I am wrong.   I will find out.   if she indeed lies about everything,  I will find out about it. 

let me ask you this?   how do you get the truth from another profile?   she could be not telling the truth at VK also. 

[treadmilldude]

IamAC, we had several long conversations on Anastasiadate, first one being about 18 months ago, the 4th and final one being maybe 13-14 months ago. My memory is not perfect from 1 1/2 years ago. I do not remember everything we talked about, in fact I don't really remember anything we talked about 1 1/2 years ago. I do know that at the time, some of the things she told me seemed highly impossible, and right at that time I found out about VK for the very first time. I did not even know about VK until maybe 12 months ago. So I was brand new to VK about 12 months ago, I looked her up, found her, and found out she had lied to me about many many things. So the next time I logged into Anastasia, I think she tried to contact me on webcam almost immediately as soon as I logged in. I told her I checked her out on VK, she is a piece of shit liar, and I told her good riddance. She tried to message me several more times apologizing for lying, saying that she really liked me very much and that she was sorry for lying, but naturally I ignored her messages wanting to chat with me. THE END of Alina.

Look at her pictures on Anastasiadate. Look at how provocatively she is dressed. Do you really want your future Wife, the Mother of your future Children, to be showing herself off 99% naked, in lingerie, to strange horny men on Anastasiadate? I personally would not. 

Do you honestly think that after you meet her, if things actually do go well, that if you ask her to remove her profile from Anastasiadate, remove her half-naked pictures, and thus remove the ability for herself to make many hundreds of dollars every month on Anastasiadate, that she will oblige your requests? Hmmmmmmmm

[treadmilldude]

Yes, of course it is the same woman.  There is only one Alina residing in FSU.

ML you are my hero. I laughed so hard I fell out of my chair when I read this!

[BillyB]

Maybe my memory is failing me, maybe she is not covered in tattoos, maybe I am confusing her with some other girl?

Better sharpen that memory because you're in the process of trying to break up two people by accusing one of being a scammer. Even if you are talking about the right Alina, how do you know it's her on chat instead of Boris, the employee of the month? Have you ever did a video chat with her and if so, how often? IamMaiC is probably going crazy right now thinking his girl is working at a scam agency, milking men for their money and professing her love for them to keep them hooked and the money rolling in. Sort it out soon if you two are talking about the same woman for the sake of IamMaiC's mental health.

Look at her pictures on Anastasiadate. Look at how provocatively she is dressed. Do you really want your future Wife, the Mother of your future Children, to be showing herself off 99% naked, in lingerie, to strange horny men on Anastasiadate? I personally would not. 

Some women have done photo shoots with aspirations of being a model. Many of those ladies photos are then sold to marriage agencies without the ladies consent. Employees of the agencies then write the letters and chat with customers. When customers come to visit those ladies in the photos, the agency tells the customers the ladies are no longer available to date.


AnastasiaDate scammed you. You engaged in a world that wasn't real. More proof is needed to be calling IamMaiC's girl a scammer. Who knows what is real and unreal at that company? If she willingly engaged in questionable behavior, IamMaiC will have some serious thinking to do but first he needs to find out if you actually talked to her at all and not some mystery writer.

[treadmilldude]

Better sharpen that memory because you're in the process of trying to break up two people by accusing one of being a scammer. Even if you are talking about the right Alina, how do you know it's her on chat instead of Boris, the employee of the month? Have you ever did a video chat with her and if so, how often? IamMaiC is probably going crazy right now thinking his girl is working at a scam agency, milking men for their money and professing her love for them to keep them hooked and the money rolling in. Sort it out soon if you two are talking about the same woman for the sake of IamMaiC's mental health.



Some women have done photo shoots with aspirations of being a model. Many of those ladies photos are then sold to marriage agencies without the ladies consent. Employees of the agencies then write the letters and chat with customers. When customers come to visit those ladies in the photos, the agency tells the customers the ladies are no longer available to date.


AnastasiaDate scammed you. You engaged in a world that wasn't real. More proof is needed to be calling IamMaiC's girl a scammer. Who knows what is real and unreal at that company? If she willingly engaged in questionable behavior, IamMaiC will have some serious thinking to do but first he needs to find out if you actually talked to her at all and not some mystery writer.

Wrong BillyB, I am not trying to break anyone up. How many men has this girl chatted with, probably even met, in Ukraine since the last time she and I chatted about 12 months ago?? Who knows, probably a lot. She has had her profile on Anastasiadate since WWII. She ripped me off of a lot of my hard-earned money, and God only knows how many other men she has ripped off of their hard-earned money.

My memory is not perfect from conversations I had 18 months ago.    Was I chatting with Harry Boris or her? Who knows, maybe I was chatting with Harry Boris. I do know I had her on webcam at least once, possibly twice, and it "seemed" to be her on the webcam - I now know that it is very common practice at PPL sites for a girl to be tape recorded on video and put pre-recorded videos of herself on the video chat. Did I ever ask her to prove to me she was really on video chat by holding up her right arm or her left middle finger or her left little toe or something to that effect? No, because at that point I did not even know it was possible for a girl to fake a video chat. I didn't know about 99% of the ridiculous bullshit Ukrainian women pull on Anastasiadate. I was oblivious to all of the dishonest bullshit Ukrainian women do on Anastasiadate. I was actually expecting the women from Ukraine to be honest, genuine people. I was expecting Ukrainian women to be honorable. I know, silly me for expecting women from Ukraine to possess just a tiny bit of decency.

The OP can meet Alina for a second time if he wants to. He has already met her once and she seemed honest enough then. Perhaps she has completely changed since I last chatted with her more than a year ago. Perhaps she really is looking to meet a western man, fall in love, and have a family with him. I hope for the OP's sake Alina has done a 180, and she is nothing at all like she was when I chatted with her more than a year ago. If she does in fact turn out to be a scammer when he meets her a second time, there are other, much better options, IMO, for him than meeting a Ukrainian woman on the King of Scam websites - Anastasiadate.

[JayH]

Dude--you need to step back and do some actual thinking.
Your conclusions are being reached in bitterness and regret at your OWN stupidity-- accept that and you can make progress.
You repeatedly are showing your ignorance in your conclusions .
I/we post here to help guys work their way thru the maze- many here have learnt--and are learning the hard way by experiencing negatives ourselves.
Your conclusion about Ukraine,Ukrainian women is obnoxious.

[treadmilldude]

JayH, perhaps I come across as blaming others. I blame noone but myself for getting scammed at Anastasiadate. I and I alone was responsible for me losing thousands of dollars on Anastasiadate. OK?

Since I discovered VK, I have been able to check the veracity of many different Ukrainian women on Anastasiadate. What I have found is that Ukrainian women on Anastasiadate have nothing to be proud of. Be very careful with what I said....""What I have found is that Ukrainian women on Anastasiadate have nothing to be proud of."" I did not say that Ukrainian women have nothing to be proud of. 

[Muzh]

Dude--you need to step back and do some actual thinking.
Your conclusions are being reached in bitterness and regret at your OWN stupidity-- accept that and you can make progress.

Yep.

You repeatedly are showing your ignorance in your conclusions .

That is relative. I bet you knew everything about Ukraine before you set foot in that country. Wait a minute, did you ever go there? 


[/size]

I/we post here to help guys work their way thru the maze- many here have learnt--and are learning the hard way by experiencing negatives ourselves.

Again, relative. We post trying to help the neophyte because the rewards are immense.


You post old articles and clutter the board with useless junk because you are on a "crusade" to teach the world what a paradise Ukraine is.


Well, it is NOT.


[/size]

Your conclusion about Ukraine,Ukrainian women is obnoxious.

As obnoxious as you posting all those inane articles. And he was right on the money, from his perspective, about the Ukrainian women he has dealt. That ALL Ukrainian women are like that, no. And eventually, he will find out.

[JayH]

That is relative. I bet you knew everything about Ukraine before you set foot in that country. Wait a minute, did you ever go there? 
t.

There is no end to your ignorant trolling.
You still think I have not been there? You used the word BET--well bet me on that issue.Put your money where your mouth is?

The fact is that you were questioning whether I had ever been in Ukraine -- and chances are that even at that time I had already spent considerably more time than you there. Chances are I had also had a much wider experience and seen a lot more. Chances are.

[JayH]

. And he was right on the money, from his perspective, about the Ukrainian women he has dealt. That ALL Ukrainian women are like that, no. And eventually, he will find out.

You don't know that--you have only seen what he said.
Very often there is 2 sides to these stories.

[JayH]

 

[Gator]

IamMaiC,

Do not concern yourself if Alina is on multiple agency sites.  Such is very common for the hot, hot, hot women because agencies steal and buy profiles from each other.  The two of you do not have an exclusive relationship, so she should be free to meet men. 


Regarding the fake chats, Alina wants to be an actress, and she was simply acting a part of being seductive and expressing interest in strangers.  I imagine the women are coached if not given a script. 

Is it wrong for Alina to express false interest in ignorant men for the purpose of earning money?   Yes it is wrong, but not a crime. There are many UW who would never do such because it is deceitful, and there are many UW who would consider such as acceptable because all one is doing is helping men fantasize about women half their age.    The women's actions take a little money (yes, the amount is little even though Treadmill says otherwise) from men and help feed the family, buy tattoos, or whatever. 

I suggest you ignore this and not ask Alina any questions about it.  Instead, judge her on how she behaves with you, what she says to you, etc.  Nevertheless, file away in the back of your mind that Alina is not a straight arrow. 

I do not know about the photos of Alina on the agency site.   I personally avoided women who would place on the internet seductive photos of themselves in scanty attire.  Most women are this way even though an agency will ask for bikini photos.  As you get to know the reserved women through correspondence, they may send more revealing photos but these are playful shots at the beach. 

I wish you the best.