What made you decide to pursue an EE woman??

[Faux Pas]

FP,

I know of many slightly overweight women in the US that have great attitudes.   They would make great soccer moms and housewives.  But I think that the women who have the beautiful figures and features that we find, quite often, in the FSU, when located in the USA tend to be in very high demand, therefore are able to be on less than their best behavior. 

I think this is what the Captain and the Feather are referring to.

jone I know of a lot of overweight women with shitty attitudes but I would in no way infer that all women are fat with shitty attitudes. Likely the difference here is these gents are most likely dating much closer to their age in America (because they have to) than they are courting in the FSU (10 years or more) and yes, there is a significant difference in jaded attitudes in an older group in the US versus FSU.

I don't fault these guys for seeking what they want. But, the fact of the matter is, the reason they can't get it in the US has more to do with them (yes you and I as well) than it does with the fat feminazis  with bad attitudes and inflated self worths that they personally know, ya know?

[Trenchcoat]

There are some very hot AW and girls with American accents often do it for me soft but not too strong as I sometimes find women with Canadian accents. There are some very hot UK girls too, but just like there AW counterparts they know it and therein comes the problem, as soon as it becomes clear how hot they are with loads of from loads of guys swooning around them their head goes right up their a**e. Now I don't blame them, they just exist in the world that is created for them, its all they become to know guys throwing themselves at them, to them they have the same choice we have in FSU. That said though there are not enough hot women to go around, and of course personality is also a factor that cannot be overlooked. I know its not all about looks but when a woman makes herself real fat and obese she loses just so much feminine appeal that turns her from a girl into something other, and to guys looking to date you have to be reasonable on this front I think.

[BillyB]

If men go to the FSU to get women they can't get back home, does it mean they are smart and those men who settle for less at home dumb?

[Faux Pas]

There are some very hot AW and girls with American accents often do it for me soft but not too strong as I sometimes find women with Canadian accents. There are some very hot UK girls too, but just like there AW counterparts they know it and therein comes the problem, as soon as it becomes clear how hot they are with loads of from loads of guys swooning around them their head goes right up their a**e. Now I don't blame them, they just exist in the world that is created for them, its all they become to know guys throwing themselves at them, to them they have the same choice we have in FSU. That said though there are not enough hot women to go around, and of course personality is also a factor that cannot be overlooked. I know its not all about looks but when a woman makes herself real fat and obese she loses just so much feminine appeal that turns her from a girl into something other, and to guys looking to date you have to be reasonable on this front I think.

A friend of mine has a band and plays various bars on the weekends. He asked me to go with him to this one place couple of counties away. He guaranteed a good time and he was right, we had a blast. The name of the bar was "The Cotton Club" in Brinkley, Arkansas. It was more of a Juke Joint that was in the middle of cotton fields 8-10 miles from the nearest town. It had that down home appeal that such a juke joint in the South would have. That night there was probably 75 people in the bar. Of that number probably 40 of them were women and of the 40 I'm guessing 30 of them were morbidly obese. The smallest would dress out at least 250 lbs. Never had I seen 30 women of this size in one bar in my life. It must be some kind of record. The strangest thing was, every one of them had a small and/or skinny guy hanging on to them like they were pure oxygen.

Of the remaining 10 women, most were slender and attractive, most were there without a date. Which fared well for me as I and a couple of others had our pick of those ten for dance partners or anything else. A very strange dynamic one doesn't often run into. I tell you this story to enlighten you that some fat women are in demand.

[Muzh]

Well, to begin with, there was an AMERICAN babe who was 20 years younger than me and really wanted me, warts and all. She knew I had 2 kids that I was raising and recently divorced. She didn't care. Did I mentioned she was a babe?


I personally never had any problems with AW. Except for the creature I married. 


Why did I pursued my EE wife? Looking back, I thought she was exotic. Also, we spent a long time talking to each other on the phone and I loved what I heard. Did I mentioned she was a babe? Ah, yes. She was a babe. Also, she was closer to my age. 

[GuppyCaptain]

Unless you know of another United States of America that I don't know of, I suppose we could be. How likely is that? Geographically I don't know where or how it could be different. I had this same discussion with a commercial member once that was emphatic that all AW in his city were fat alcoholics and drug addicts. He lived in Florida.

The fact is Guppy that claim is bullshit. Shitty attitudes and think they are worth more than they are? What are they worth? What do you think they are worth?  What are you worth? More or less than them? Maybe you just attract shitty women?

There are plenty of women in the FSU with inflated self worth and shitty attitudes, too. Often it accompanies age as does the extra pounds on the hips. One could correctly say that same thing about the men in this search. Yes Guppy the generality is bullshit and more often used in this fora by those with a need to cover their own flaws.

Bologna! I don't buy it. Sorry. First of all to even have this conversation we have to agree to speak in generalities while acknowledging the fact that there are obviously some exceptions to them.

The geography DOES affect the quality, fitness and mentality of women in the U.S. As an example, it's a well known fact that the south and southeast states have a higher rate of obesity than other parts of the country with Houston taking the cake as the fattest city the last I knew. Conversely you'll find more well-dressed, fit professional women in D.C. So yes, it does matter GREATLY where you live.

As for what they're worth and what I'm worth? They're not worth much to me when they're overweight, have little domestic skills, narcissistic and on top of it a bad attitude! This description fits a lot of women in that country we call the U.S.A.

As for me, I'm the first to admit that I don't have the looks of Brad Pitt nor Goerge Clooney, but women do find me not so difficult on the eyes. I also have a good career, great living situation, a LOT of time off from work to offer my future family, and much to your dismay don't possess any great character flaws as you've so nicely insinuated.

Furthermore, my expectations and desires in my future partner are quite realistic as I'm not seeking an age difference greater than 10 years, nor am I seeking someone that is out of my league looks wise. I'd like to give my next marriage the greatest possible chance to be happy, healthy and long lasting.

[Faux Pas]

Bologna! I don't buy it. Sorry. First of all to even have this conversation we have to agree to speak in generalities while acknowledging the fact that there are obviously some exceptions to them.

The geography DOES affect the quality, fitness and mentality of women in the U.S. As an example, it's a well known fact that the south and southeast states have a higher rate of obesity than other parts of the country with Houston taking the cake as the fattest city the last I knew. Conversely you'll find more well-dressed, fit professional women in D.C. So yes, it does matter GREATLY where you live.

As for what they're worth and what I'm worth? They're not worth much to me when they're overweight, have little domestic skills, narcissistic and on top of it a bad attitude! This description fits a lot of women in that country we call the U.S.A.

As for me, I'm the first to admit that I don't have the looks of Brad Pitt nor Goerge Clooney, but women do find me not so difficult on the eyes. I also have a good career, great living situation, a LOT of time off from work to offer my future family, and much to your dismay don't possess any great character flaws as you've so nicely insinuated.

Furthermore, my expectations and desires in my future partner are quite realistic as I'm not seeking an age difference greater than 10 years, nor am I seeking someone that is out of my league looks wise. I'd like to give my next marriage the greatest possible chance to be happy, healthy and long lasting.

No need to get hostile and offended Guppy. I do not blame or fault you for going after what you want. Just be honest about it. Your entitlement and over inflated sense of self worth is beginning to shine through. An entire segment of the population is hardly a few exceptions. Within the generalities there are some absolutes. One of which is, all American women are not this, that or the other. That mantra is bullshit. To deny it leaves you nothing but in denial. Believing it doesn't increase your chances with FSUW so, why buy into the fallacy?

If you're such a fine catch why then are the few exceptional quality women left in the US not seeking you out? Let me guess, the US is a glutton market of fine husband material?

[Muzh]

red you seem like a nice enough guy but your diatribe of AW being fat, drug addled feminazis that don't take care of man or family is bullshit and has been posted here ad nauseum . There are many more that are beautiful quality women in America than those that aren't. The truth about why you don't have one of those might be closer and more about something else you don't care to admit.

Your reason for going overseas doesn't have to be concerned or connected to AW at all, does it? That attitude is misogynistic. There are now and have been in the past a lot of "broken" guys that go to the FSU in search of women that harbor that very same sentiment. Some of those grace the halls of RWD. Are you one of those or do you want to be one of those?

That said there are also some top self quality guys that go abroad and most of those guys don't blame their failures to find what they are looking for on a nation of fat females, you know?

Who was that masked man?!?!?!?


+1

[Muzh]

In answer to your question, I don't pursue only on an EE woman.  I also am looking for a Latin woman.

I prefer Latin woman to EE woman.  Latin women have warmer heart than EE women but EE women have better brains and legs !

Living in UK means EE is much nearer and easier to travel too.  If I have found an EE woman, that's great!  I get on with Latin women FAR better than FSU women, and I know intermediate level in Spanish whereas I know 2 or 3 Russian words lol

FSU women are much worse than Latinas when comes to scammers / gold diggers / materialistic

Anda pa'l carajo!!!!


Now, there goes a brave man.

[Muzh]

Good choice Gato.   After all Latin women are hotter and offer much more for a man.


Unfortunately is is the temper that is hotter and their butt that offers much more for a man.   

Yeah, like white women have no drive and are bland.


And black women all scream and yell.


And Filipino women take it while doing the dishes.


And Chinese women are slanted down there.


IOW


Blatant stereotype.

[Faux Pas]

Who was that masked man?!?!?!?


+1

+1

Bob is lonely, misogynistic and undateable.

Don't be like Bob

 

[GuppyCaptain]

No need to get hostile and offended Guppy. I do not blame or fault you for going after what you want. Just be honest about it. Your entitlement and over inflated sense of self worth is beginning to shine through. An entire segment of the population is hardly a few exceptions. Within the generalities there are some absolutes. One of which is, all American women are not this, that or the other. That mantra is bullshit. To deny it leaves you nothing but in denial. Believing it doesn't increase your chances with FSUW so, why buy into the fallacy?

If you're such a fine catch why then are the few exceptional quality women left in the US not seeking you out? Let me guess, the US is a glutton market of fine husband material?

You're really not getting it are you? Tell ya what, get back into the American dating pool and then come back and talk to us because right now I'm questioning your credibility considering the time you've been out of it. Actually, I can't believe we're even discussing the same group of women.

Perhaps the fact that my friends and family back in EE can't believe that I'm having a difficult time meeting a decent woman in the U.S. should give you reason to pause and think.

My Father hasn't ever questioned me once about why I'm pursuing a life partner in EE/FSU, perhaps because having lived there for the first 37 years of his life and now the U.S. for the last 41, he sees the difference between the two. 

[Muzh]

SMV..I had never heard that acronym...  Apparently young women here in the states do indeed have a very high "SMV"...  I've been long done with young women with high "SMV".  That is a young guys field to play in, and few somewhat older guys would have the desire and/or the ability to bother with the necessary hoops.   

That term has been floating around for a while with self-help guide in the DIY section of the bookstore. The authors are really incensed that they can't get any, ergo, there is something wrong with the babes.
 

Going abroad, many men can still obtain gorgeous women without many of the unnecessary hoops.  Of course there are a lot of fine lines to be walked still..but if finding a very attractive lady is the goal, why the heck not go abroad and do the best you can for yourself! Feelings of animosity are not required or helpful.  Most young ladies are silly little things, just doing their cute little girly things..that's the way I see it. 

Fathertime!

Shh, why are you running around wielding needles. You can pop a balloon, you know?

[Muzh]

I saw many a pear-body in the FSU.   Based on my experience, the RW work harder to stay slender, even after menopause hits.  We men benefit from this, yet to some degree it is sad to be so concerned with superficial aspects without compromising a bit.

Yep.

[ML]

If men go to the FSU to get women they can't get back home, does it mean they are smart and those men who settle for less at home dumb?

Like some others mentioned; not infrequently in USA we see a slender or not-overweight man hanging on to an overweight or obese woman.

When I see this . . . yes, I do think the men are dumb.

[Muzh]

FP,

I know of many slightly overweight women in the US that have great attitudes.   They would make great soccer moms and housewives.  But I think that the women who have the beautiful figures and features that we find, quite often, in the FSU, when located in the USA tend to be in very high demand, therefore are able to be on less than their best behavior. 

I think this is what the Captain and the Feather are referring to.

Hey Bud, a very sincere question.


What will you do with your porcelain doll when she gets "supersized" here in the USA? Are you going to keep her in a gym 24/7?


The main reason many FSU women are thin is because they do NOT have the CONVENIENCE their American sisters have. IOW, they stay thin out of necessity.


Please keep that in mind.


Peace

[Slumba]

Yep.

Clearly from Uzbekistan.

[Faux Pas]

You're really not getting it are you? Tell ya what, get back into the American dating pool and then come back and talk to us because right now I'm questioning your credibility considering the time you've been out of it. Actually, I can't believe we're even discussing the same group of women.

Perhaps the fact that my friends and family back in EE can't believe that I'm having a difficult time meeting a decent woman in the U.S. should give you reason to pause and think.

My Father hasn't ever questioned me once about why I'm pursuing a life partner in EE/FSU, perhaps because having lived there for the first 37 years of his life and now the U.S. for the last 41, he sees the difference between the two. 

I fear between you and I, I am the only one getting it. Unlikely I'll ever be back in the American dating pool and you are right about one thing, it's been a long time since I have waded that muck. It wasn't a bed of roses then and I am sure it hasn't improved. I wouldn't however declare AW are all a bunch of fat lazy feminist with ego issues.

Doing so only reflects on you. Get that or not.

[GuppyCaptain]

I guess you missed the part where I stated that all generalizations have exceptions including the ones about AW. There surely are some good ones just the same as there are some She-Devil FSUW.

Just one question though......if there are (or were) so many AW that you considered marriage material, then why did you marry an FSUW as I presume you did?

[ML]

What will you do with your porcelain doll when she gets "supersized" here in the USA? Are you going to keep her in a gym 24/7?

Isn't this where the term 'trade-in' become applicable ?

[alex330]

What will you do with your porcelain doll when she gets "supersized" here in the USA? Are you going to keep her in a gym 24/7?


The main reason many FSU women are thin is because they do NOT have the CONVENIENCE their American sisters have. IOW, they stay thin out of necessity.

I disagree with this.

My wife and most of her Russian girlfriends have been here for some time and are still very thin. And we know LOTS of RW down here. Not one is heavy. My buddy has been married to a RW close to 20 years and his wife is older yet very beautiful and still thin.

Russian women are generally vain and very appearance oriented. They like to take photos of themselves in bikinis. Lots of them. All day long.

They like to prance around in lingerie at home all day.

They like to eat healthy and are worried about bad fats, and sugars, and what they eat. They love yoga and crossfit and paddle boarding.

They care about themselves.

And yes, you drag her ass to the gym with you so you both stay in shape and look good for each other.

[Steamer]

This is bringing back ALL of the bad memories.


I looked to Russia because my attitude about AW was totally poisoned by my divorce from my ex wife.
I had a GF of 5 yrs but couldn't bring myself to marry her because all I could think of was "And how will SHE screw me over".
I found that I couldn't marry an AW because of this, no matter what.


AW are not all bad. My mother, sister, cousins and countless others are AW and are all good people. It's my attitude that was the problem and I couldn't get past it, so I didn't.


My wife and I were giving each other the "evil eye" for probably the first 2 yrs of our marriage. She had gone through an even worse screwing by her ex'es. We liked each other but it's tough to get over that stuff. Eventually we realized that we wouldn't hurt each other and then it went good.

[redfeather]

Steamer,
I believe you are spot on with your post.  I know many of us AM feel about the same way you feel.  I do agree that yes not all AW are bad, but it takes a lot of digging and looking to find a gem these days.  I know that I have dated around 15 women in the last five years, and I can safely say that I was looking for someone in the 40-50 year old age bracket and all I could find were women in that age group that had 2,3,4 divorces under the belt and they would casually let you know that they would divorce the next husband, too.  I am a great guy to be in a relationship with, but quietly talking with these women made me run not walk to the nearest exit.  I want a Russian woman in this same age group because I only want to be 5-10 years older than her, so I am not looking for really young.  I dated a few women from church, and they both had 2,3 divorces under their belt and they let me know that they would divorce again if they felt like it.  So, all of you naysayers can run to the front of the line with these AW...and be sure to let us know how that works out for you.

[Faux Pas]

I guess you missed the part where I stated that all generalizations have exceptions including the ones about AW. There surely are some good ones just the same as there are some She-Devil FSUW.

Just one question though......if there are (or were) so many AW that you considered marriage material, then why did you marry an FSUW as I presume you did?

Oh probably the same reason you're looking now, I was just too fine of a specimen for spoiled ungrateful AW
 

Actually I dated some quality AW and contemplated marriage. I also had a lot of fun with some very much younger attractive AW. Honestly, I was tired of the American dating scene. The posturing, the gaming over and over. I tried the Russian dating because it expanded my options and to my surprise met a woman I knew I didn't want to live without. Love quickly ensued. For both of us luckily for me.

I've never once considered AW or viewed them as you do FTR. Yes some are fat, entitled, tattooed and stink like shit but, there were always fine attractive and quality women too. Now if you can't get those to pay attention to you, then I understand. I've also experienced "some" of that in my single days but not enough to turn me off to AW all together.

[GuppyCaptain]

Steamer,
I believe you are spot on with your post.  I know many of us AM feel about the same way you feel.  I do agree that yes not all AW are bad, but it takes a lot of digging and looking to find a gem these days.  I know that I have dated around 15 women in the last five years, and I can safely say that I was looking for someone in the 40-50 year old age bracket and all I could find were women in that age group that had 2,3,4 divorces under the belt and they would casually let you know that they would divorce the next husband, too.  I am a great guy to be in a relationship with, but quietly talking with these women made me run not walk to the nearest exit.  I want a Russian woman in this same age group because I only want to be 5-10 years older than her, so I am not looking for really young.  I dated a few women from church, and they both had 2,3 divorces under their belt and they let me know that they would divorce again if they felt like it.  So, all of you naysayers can run to the front of the line with these AW...and be sure to let us know how that works out for you.

Precisely. Except they didn't. They married FSUW so what does that tell ya?