What made you decide to pursue an EE woman??

[treadmilldude]

Oh probably the same reason you're looking now, I was just too fine of a specimen for spoiled ungrateful AW
 

Actually I dated some quality AW and contemplated marriage. I also had a lot of fun with some very much younger attractive AW. Honestly, I was tired of the American dating scene. The posturing, the gaming over and over. I tried the Russian dating because it expanded my options and to my surprise met a woman I knew I didn't want to live without. Love quickly ensued. For both of us luckily for me.

I've never once considered AW or viewed them as you do FTR. Yes some are fat, entitled, tattooed and stink like shit but, there were always fine attractive and quality women too. Now if you can't get those to pay attention to you, then I understand. I've also experienced "some" of that in my single days but not enough to turn me off to AW all together.

FauxPass, you are taking quite a few blatantly passive-aggressive shots at Guppy Captain. I am not sure they are warranted.

[fathertime]

Russian women are generally vain and very appearance oriented. They like to take photos of themselves in bikinis. Lots of them. All day long.

Similiar to Colombian ladies in that respect...and I do think that attitude and 'appearance orientation' does and will do a lot to keep pounds off for these ladies...they simply care a lot and are often engaging in social comparison with each other using their bodies. 


Fathertime!

[Steamer]

Similiar to Colombian ladies in that respect...and I do think that attitude and 'appearance orientation' does and will do a lot to keep pounds off for these ladies...they simply care a lot and are often engaging in social comparison with each other using their bodies. 


Fathertime!

Yes they compete against themselves. That's how we get those great "Hubba Hubba" pictures !!

[alex330]

Similiar to Colombian ladies in that respect...and I do think that attitude and 'appearance orientation' does and will do a lot to keep pounds off for these ladies...they simply care a lot and are often engaging in social comparison with each other using their bodies. 

Yes, RW and Latinas are very much alike in that regard. Wife works for a Venezuelan company and the girls are from Caracas and Colombia. They are always competing and trying to one up the other.

[BillyB]

They like to prance around in lingerie at home all day.

RW buy all those clothes and wear hardly anything in the house. Doesn't always make sense but I am not complaining.

[alex330]

RW buy all those clothes and wear hardly anything in the house. Doesn't always make sense but I am not complaining.

It drives me bonkers. I am always yelling at my wife to put clothes on.

Now, when a woman from the FSU first arrives she will probably put on a couple pounds. She may not be able to drive yet and may be stuck at home. She may join you for some fast food. She may feel homesick and like women anywhere in the world will eat ice cream to feel better.

FSUW love ice cream btw. My wife does at least.

Then she will realize she has put on a couple extra pounds and she will freak out.

She will make you go for walks after dinner or bike rides. She will cut out all the garbage from your diet. Some will even go off the deep end and wind up even thinner than they were in the FSU. Go vegan or raw diet, or some other crazy nonsense. True story, we know several RW like this.

[Gator]

The name of the bar was "The Cotton Club" in Brinkley, Arkansas. It was more of a Juke Joint that was in the middle of cotton fields 8-10 miles from the nearest town. It had that down home appeal that such a juke joint in the South would have. That night there was probably 75 people in the bar. Of that number probably 40 of them were women and of the 40 I'm guessing 30 of them were morbidly obese. The smallest would dress out at least 250 lbs. Never had I seen 30 women of this size in one bar in my life. It must be some kind of record. The strangest thing was, every one of them had a small and/or skinny guy hanging on to them like they were pure oxygen...... I tell you this story to enlighten you that some fat women are in demand.

Let me review. 

                         Arkansas.....cotton fields........................you are in the Delta, the birthplace of the blues.

                         8-10 miles from the nearest town............you are deep in the Delta.

                         Juke joint....big women with skinny men.....

                                    Either the Twilight Zone or Back to the Future - it does not matter, because it is 1960s, and you are black.


Gawd, this brings back the memories, glorious memories!  In the 1960s my frat brothers and I took a short road trip to a black juke joint.  We could enter provided we behaved and bought beers for everyone.  Race relations were different then.  There they played the blues, not like anything on the billboard top 50.  The place and music were raw, primeval raw,  and reached my inner soul - a religious experience.

Check out this clip.  Scenes from Mississippi juke joints....big women (at 0:53 mark)...skinny men.....and the music. 

The artist in the video is Junior Kimbrough, a Delta blues singer.  I am certain he was far better than what we heard in the Carolinas.  Kimbrough was called by his peers as the "THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF ALL MUSIC,"    yet he recorded so little and on obscure labels.  Did it matter that he was better than what we heard?  The music was live, and we were sweaty, young and exploring,  and had never heard Jr Kimbrough.  It did not matter.   

I don't know if anyone will understand.  It probably is something one had to experience.  A word of advice to the young - It is so important to recognize at the time and appreciate you are in the middle of one of your finest 100 moments.  Recognizing it afterwards is good, but not nearly the same. 

Thanks FP for bringing back the memories. 

[BillyB]

It drives me bonkers. I am always yelling at my wife to put clothes on.

Won't work so the other solution is to put more curtains on the windows and learn to enjoy the show.

[mhr7]

FSUW love ice cream btw. My wife does at least.

Then she will realize she has put on a couple extra pounds and she will freak out.

She will make you go for walks after dinner or bike rides. She will cut out all the garbage from your diet. Some will even go off the deep end and wind up even thinner than they were in the FSU. Go vegan or raw diet, or some other crazy nonsense. True story, we know several RW like this.

Yes they do, desserts in general it seems. Sometimes when we go to lunch, I will order a meal and she will just order ice cream or a piece of a cake. We don't take taxis anywhere in the city, we walk everywhere. She has it in her head that she (and I) must walk 10,000 steps per day in order to be healthy.  Like other FSU women, mine looks at the ingredients of everything we buy to make sure it's as natural as possible.

[alex330]

we walk everywhere. She has it in her head that she (and I) must walk 10,000 steps per day in order to be healthy.  Like other FSU women, mine looks at the ingredients of everything we buy to make sure it's as natural as possible.

They must know each other 

[Faux Pas]

FauxPass, you are taking quite a few blatantly passive-aggressive shots at Guppy Captain. I am not sure they are warranted.

You're reading too much into it. I suggest you thicken up your skin a bit. I am attempting to share with Guppy of course, what he decides to do with it is completely up to him. 

[Faux Pas]

Let me review. 

                         Arkansas.....cotton fields........................you are in the Delta, the birthplace of the blues.

                         8-10 miles from the nearest town............you are deep in the Delta.

                         Juke joint....big women with skinny men.....

                                    Either the Twilight Zone or Back to the Future - it does not matter, because it is 1960s, and you are black.


Gawd, this brings back the memories, glorious memories!  In the 1960s my frat brothers and I took a short road trip to a black juke joint.  We could enter provided we behaved and bought beers for everyone.  Race relations were different then.  There they played the blues, not like anything on the billboard top 50.  The place and music were raw, primeval raw,  and reached my inner soul - a religious experience.

Check out this clip.  Scenes from Mississippi juke joints....big women (at 0:53 mark)...skinny men.....and the music. 

The artist in the video is Junior Kimbrough, a Delta blues singer.  I am certain he was far better than what we heard in the Carolinas.  Kimbrough was called by his peers as the "THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF ALL MUSIC,"    yet he recorded so little and on obscure labels.  Did it matter that he was better than what we heard?  The music was live, and we were sweaty, young and exploring,  and had never heard Jr Kimbrough.  It did not matter.   

I don't know if anyone will understand.  It probably is something one had to experience.  A word of advice to the young - It is so important to recognize at the time and appreciate you are in the middle of one of your finest 100 moments.  Recognizing it afterwards is good, but not nearly the same. 

Thanks FP for bringing back the memories.

You have pegged the area exactly and close on the rest except the patrons and the band this night was all white. Blues music was played. The Cotton Club is actually a general store for the area folks by day with an area for a small dance club bar by night.

However, the Delta Blues and true Blues musicians could have been playing there in that same place just as well on any other night. I am a fan of the Blues and in particularly the Delta Blues. I have met and know many blues musicians. for a number of years I was heavily involved with the King Biscuit Blues Festival as a sponsor and volunteer although I haven't been associated with it for several years now.

I could take you on a tour in the Delta of some of the most notable and some of the best unknown blues music in the Delta with some famous and not so famous.

Ironically, the clip you chose to play, was that on purpose? That is Junior Kimbrough. He was a notable mostly in the Delta but, he did have a recording contract. He had a blues joint in Holly Springs MS. It was nothing more than a big old farmhouse about to collapse. I first went and met him in the early 90's. I went several times and he remembered me each time. He died around in 98-99. Probably could have been a wealthy man at some point but, likely was taken advantage of. He couldn't read or write. From all outward appearances he died without any money.

[Gator]

That is Junior Kimbrough. He was a notable mostly in the Delta but, he did have a recording contract. He had a blues joint in Holly Springs MS. It was nothing more than a big old farmhouse about to collapse. I first went and met him in the early 90's. I went several times and he remembered me each time. He died around in 98-99. Probably could have been a wealthy man at some point but, likely was taken advantage of. He couldn't read or write. From all outward appearances he died without any money.

I am honored to be in the forum presence of someone who met Junior Kimbrough multiple times.  In a way Junior's life mirrored the lives of the early blues singers of the 1920s and 30s even though he performed a generation later.  Those singers were sharecroppers, turpentine workers, etc. They performed on the juke joint circuit for tips, free meals, and handouts.  Recordings were scarce.  And most died penniless.   

Robert Johnson, for example, is deemed by many to be the creator of Delta Blues.  Eric Clapton said Johnson was "the most important blues singer that ever lived."  Johnson died in 1938 at the age of 27 having been recorded only in his final two years.  A few players left Mississippi, went to Chicago and made some money.  Names include John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters and Lightning Hopkins,  yet their earnings were minimal, especially in comparison to those who came later.   

Junior Kimbrough had his own style and did not gain recognition until the 1990s, only to die a few years later.  I was just reading his history, and one reason for not having money is that he fathered 36 children.  Sounds like he pleasured a lot of women as well as entertaining his music fans. 

The barman years ago at my club collected old "race records" of the early Blues era.  He told me the history of this esoteric subject.   Few records were produced and those were played over and over in the depression and post-depression era, played on wind up phonographs until the grooves were gone.  Most people do not realize the major influence this music had on Rock n Roll.

[Muzh]

Yes, RW and Latinas are very much alike in that regard. Wife works for a Venezuelan company and the girls are from Caracas and Colombia. They are always competing and trying to one up the other.

Heh, the majority of girls will obviously look fit and trim.


Talk to me about women YOUR age.

[Muzh]

It drives me bonkers. I am always yelling at my wife to put clothes on.

Dang, my wife can relate to this. She keeps yelling at me to put on some clothes.

[alex330]

Heh, the majority of girls will obviously look fit and trim.

Talk to me about women YOUR age.

By girls I mean women. The women my wife works with are all 30-55. The Latinas all take very good care of themselves. That includes trips back home every few years for augmentations and a little work here and there. The Colombians really like the ass implants for some reason...

My friends Russian wife is ten years older than I am and very slim. More slender than most of the 30 year old RW actually.

Most of the RW we know are in the 25-35 range. The older RW I see around town are hit or miss in regards to their weight. Will depend on many factors. Same thing I observed over in Ukraine. Generally they seem thinner than the average AW though.

Dang, my wife can relate to this. She keeps yelling at me to put on some clothes.

 

[Gator]

Dang, my wife can relate to this. She keeps yelling at me to put on some clothes.

Hilarious. 

[Muzh]

The Colombians really like the ass implants for some reason...

If you are not a latino, you'll never understand. 

[mendeleyev]

What made you decide to pursue an EE woman??

At first sight it was her legs (but a wise man will tell her that it was her smile).

[jone]

What made you decide to pursue an EE woman??

At first sight it was her legs (but a wise man will tell her that it was her smile).

Or her eyes. 

[Anotherkiwi]

What made you decide to pursue an EE woman??

At first sight it was her legs (but a wise man will tell her that it was her smile).

Or her eyes. 

No - I agree with mendy.  Very definitely her legs.

[Chicagoguy]

I had made 15 trips to Russia and couldn't help but notice the women. But I was there for business and to visit friends. But after 35 years of a happy marriage mw wife passed away. It was after a 1 year ordeal.

Not too long after I tried meeting some local women. Nothing was getting off the ground in either direction. Nothing. So I looked at some of the Russian web pages. I had read RWD so I had some ideas of what direction to go. For me I just posted my profile and figured that if they were interested in me it might be a better start. I should add I was older so this was in my post so they knew from the beginning what could be a deal breaker. Also, even though she had a daughter she had never been married before.
Did not like Russian men [ or Ukrainian's either ] and wrote me mostly as a lark at the insistence of daughter's girlfriend.

I received what I thought was many replies and answered all even if to say no. These were all serious people and never a scammer. I ended up going to see three but my attention was really focused on the one I saved for last. Very cute and personable. Small - 5 ft. and 120 lbs. Since she had written first I saved the best for last. BUT she did not know English. Also, she was 15 years younger which was past my request on my profile. Still, I thought if it didn't bother her why should it bother me.

She suggested that since if everything was going to work out we should write each other in English since we would need it eventually. It wasn't too long before I saw how this was working out. I would write in English and then she would use translation to put it in Russian. Then she would write herself a reply in Russian and translate it back into an English reply for me.

After a few months of this I began to notice the times of her writing me. 1:00   2:00 in the morning. It was taking her 4 hours to read, translate. write, translate. EVERY DAY. I was impressed. So after 3 months I went to meet her in Moscow - not her home town. On New Years eve !  She was more that I could have hoped for. Next meeting we went to Turkey together. It was my idea to see what she would be like in a new and strange setting. In reality it was new for both of us. Sort of a "fish of of water thing". And it was wonderful. I knew and she knew.

When we got back to Moscow her Moscow daughter met us at the airport and it was like family already.

We ended up getting married in Smoky Mountain National Park about 2 years after my wife had died. Now it has been 7 years and her family treats me like a king and my three daughters, who were hesitant at first, now say they can't imagine life without her.

Her daughter has been to U.S. 2 times and even pays her own way over. My wife goes home every year to see three sisters and 91 year old father plus doctors and dentists.  Wife has also has passed written part of drivers test and we are finally sending in forms for Naturalization next week.

But I have to admit there was some luck involved here for both of us. Plus the language part took much work. Especially for her. She is a gem.

[GuppyCaptain]

Chicago, that's a really motivational and inspirational story. Thanks so much for taking the time to write it. Especially encouraging was the language barrier. You see I've currently got some major fireworks going off between a woman I had been writing for two months before meeting. Last night was date number two but it lasted almost twelve hours and only the first three was with a translator. Her English is only 10% but somehow between my minimal Russian, her minimal English, and a translator app, we managed to carry on fairly intense conversations about some serious topics.

I am already determined to stick through the difficulty of the language barrier until her English improves and my Russian gets a little better but your post provides even more determination to do so. Spasibo.

[Gator]

I am already determined to stick through the difficulty of the language barrier until her English improves and my Russian gets a little better but your post provides even more determination to do so. Spasibo.

You say this  after two dates.   The test of your patience comes later.  RW who speak English can be difficult.  How you resolve differences is critical, and a language barrier makes it 3x the challenge. 

Even more important than your determination is her determination.

It is too early to know, yet if you decide to become exclusive, I suggest you ask for her commitment to study English.  My advice is not one class per week, but at least three per week with homework in between classes.  You pay of course, and insist she uses the best teachers, preferably private lessons.  Then monitor closely her progress.

I speak from experience.  If she stays on course even after some inevitable storms, you have a winner.

[redfeather]

Chicagoguy,
I enjoyed reading your story, and like GC said it is truly inspirational.  I am chatting with three different women right now and I have to admit that I am deliberately searching for women who can speak some/decent/good English.  So, I have already thought thru the language barrier, and I was stationed with the Army in Germany so I already have knowledge of western Europe and how difficult the language barrier can be.  It is not an impossible task to overcome, but if both are willing to work at it then it should be fine. 
GC,
Thanks for keeping us posted on your progress, and we always look forward to your AAR reviews.  Stay safe.