why didn't I find this site sooner!!! Need advice please!

[stuckmojo]

It is safe to say after reading many posts here my search has started terribly..

Here is my dilemma-

I joined 1st international (don't laugh)

In the last 30 days its been a $1,000+ education weeding out the scammers. I actually think I may have found a few sincere women that I am compatible with at this point.

I have a trip to Odessa scheduled in early May.

My question is simple- should I request the 30 day money back guarantee and start over at the recommended sites I've seen here? (do they actually return my money?)

Or- should I continue the correspondence with the few women I think are legitimate and accept the money spent as part of the process?

Any advice here is welcome and feel free to ask anything you like.

Thank you!

[Shadow]

Send the women your email address or phone numer, get a refund and continue preparing your trip.
With a possibility to meet soon, many women will be interested, that is if you are not a 70 year old man looking like a 30 year old.
Unless your wallet looks like Bill Gates.

[stuckmojo]

I'm 34 speaking to women in their mid 20s.  Definetly not Bill Gates but have a my own home and steady income.

I'll have to fill out their IMBRA form to exchange information. Any idea how long that process takes?

[Shadow]

I'm 34 speaking to women in their mid 20s.  Definetly not Bill Gates but have a my own home and steady income.

I'll have to fill out their IMBRA form to exchange information. Any idea how long that process takes?

Do not be in such a hurry. First thing is to meet a woman that you intend to marry, then start worrying about how to get her in to your home.

[LAman]

Do you this girl is really into you?  I would first try to sneak you email address in a chat( if that is offered), if girl acts like she doesn't see it or can't accept it, then you may be dealing with an 'agency' girl. I doubt you will get a refund if asked. You got to determine where/when to cut your losses. If already spent, maximize your spent money.

[stuckmojo]

Since I first posted this I've asked 2 girls to exchange information. They both have given a different excuse.

The first says she has a free computer from the agency that she would otherwise not afford. Says she is under a contract yo correspond using the site. She insists she is serious and agreed to exchange info but would then only be able to communicate once per week. Hah!

The other wants to exchange information to give to her agency manager at orchid to help set me up an apartment in Odessa for my visit but says until we "meet" she will only communicate using the agency..

Not looking good. These girls were both very attentive. Each answering all my questions and had pertinent questions of their own. They would even often reference statements from older letters.

Both were lower cost letters 5 and 7 credits with videos and both real and studio photos. Also had low amounts of votes on their photos leading me to think they were newer to the site. I really thought they were legit.. One even asks about my children by name!

[jone]

You are on a Pay Per Letter (PPL) site and you have no idea how they operate.  They will string you along even if you go visit them.  Dump them.  Dump the site.  Go to a site that is a subscription site. 

You don't have the knowledge or experience to seduce a gal off of one the PPL sites.

[stuckmojo]

Looks to be the only option. Looking into the recommend sites now trying to decide on one.

Thank you all for the advice

[tfcrew]

Looks to be the only option. Looking into the recommend sites now trying to decide on one.

Thank you all for the advice

                                                         

         Who recommended the sites?  Best to eliminate the middleman ASAP              

[stuckmojo]

I found a thread here that had a list if sites. Elenas models, luckylovers and several others.

Had I of known of RWD sooner I'd be in better shape.

Update**

I did request a full refund which claims to be no questions asked, all money back for 30 days. I will post again if I get this refund back or not.
(I'm not counting on it)

[GatoMoon]

MEMBERS:

Give him ML's Charlton Heston's Commandent .. .what is the link?

[tfcrew]

I have a trip to Odessa scheduled in early May.

 

Odessa was really nice when I was there but it's been awhile.
My wife is from Odessa.
I suggest you have some physical addresses and use google maps to tour the city.

[2tallbill]

I'm 34 speaking to women in their mid 20s.  Definitely not Bill Gates but have my own home and steady income.

I'll have to fill out their IMBRA form to exchange information. Any idea how long that process takes?

I would count the money you've spent so far as tuition at the school
of hard knocks. I doubt that they will give the money back.

Filling out a form at a website couldn't take very long. If the girl doesn't
want to exchange information then dump her immediately. In the future
avoid pay by the letter or pay to chat agencies.

Udachi!

Bill

[2tallbill]

Since I first posted this I've asked 2 girls to exchange information. They both have given a different excuse.

The girls won't get paid a commission if you exchange information.

Good girls find a way, sketchy girls make excuses.
Dump them and move on.

[BillyB]

I did request a full refund which claims to be no questions asked, all money back for 30 days. I will post again if I get this refund back or not.
(I'm not counting on it)

Here's what it says at their website "100% satisfaction guarantee. If you are not satisfied with the quality of our service, you will get a 100% refund within 30 days of purchase if we are not able to fix the problem."



Chances are they'll say the problem is fixed or the system was never broken on whatever you told them is the reason you want your money back. Notice the big "if" included with the 100% satisfaction guarantee.

[stuckmojo]

Missed that part.. Always a catch!

[ML]

And further, they will say that actually YOU are the problem, and they cannot fix that.

[2tallbill]

And further, they will say that actually YOU are the problem, and they cannot fix that.

Exactly,

Write the money and the girls off and move on. The sooner you move on the sooner
you can find the future Mrs__________________ your name here.

Udachi!

Bill

[stuckmojo]

Good news.. I think?

They are giving me back $28.50 of my money.  I seriously laughed when I read the email!

Nothing to cry over. It was educational and thanks to everyone here I've now been on a real site for a few days.

ElenasModels-

Its nice to actually get a few rejection letters! This can only be a good sign!:)

I'm talking with a beautiful woman there now and might even meet in Odessa!

This site and everyone here is a real blessing to men like me who are sincere in their search.

Thank you all (not just on my post) who have shared both good and bad experiences.

-Edwin

[jone]

Edwin,

You must be a remarkable man.  You, I'm sure, are one of the few who have ever received a refund.

[LAman]

Edwin,

You must be a remarkable man.  You, I'm sure, are one of the few who have ever received a refund.

I think it is wiser to ask for credits....you can get a lot of those. Money does not come back very often, kinda reminds me of Vega$, lots of deposits and little returns.

[stuckmojo]

Out of just over $1000 I was returned $28.50

I would not consider that a success but I'm looking at the long term goal. Had I not lost that money. I may never have found RWD which has led me closer to my goal.

Call me an optimist

[BillyB]

They are giving me back $28.50 of my money. 

Any reason why they are refunding you $28.50 when their guarantee says 100% refund? The fact they gave you something is an admission from them of fault. You have a case to get your $1000+ back from them should you decide to take it to court.

I'm talking with a beautiful woman there now and might even meet in Odessa!

Before visiting any woman, Skype and/or speak with them on the phone often without an Agency in the middle. If she's willing to give you personal time and shows she's thrilled to speak with you without getting paid, you have somebody worth visiting.

[2tallbill]

Out of just over $1000 I was returned $28.50

I would not consider that a success but I'm looking at the long term goal. Had I not lost that money. I may never have found RWD which has led me closer to my goal.

Call me an optimist

You have a good attitude on this. Always learn from your mistakes and make different
ones in the future. Always be cautiously optimistic, but be prepared at any time to dump
a girl and move on. All that advice is easier to give than to follow, but I and many others
have done it, there is no reason that you and the others reading this couldn't do the same

Udachi!

Bill

[tfcrew]

I'm talking with a beautiful woman there now and might even meet in Odessa!

 

You spoke on the phone?
Can she speak pretty good English?