How to Approach Professionals for Dating

[Gator]

90+% of the Russian women that I've dated were professionals and I've found them
easy to get along with or I dumped them.

To make this clear, what percentage of the 90+% did you dump?   LOL

[2tallbill]

To make this clear, what percentage of the 90+% did you dump?   LOL

Obviously all of them except the one I married.
(I might of been dumped myself a time or two)

Of the 90% that I've dated probably I got dumped 10% of the time and
they got dumped 89% of the time, and I married one. Of the non 90%
were waitresses, a pizza girl, and a few others.

[Morty]

I looked for girls on AD,,,
So I could than find them on VK

But I mostly talked to her on Vk and Skype...
She told me,, she would get in trouble from her bosses at the Mail farm,,, because she was talking to me on Vk at work,,, lol
They would fine her when she did not talk to other men..

After we talked for a while,,, She quit that job..

Well played sir.

For the benefit of others, all you need is city, date of birth and first name. Vk' search engine is awesome. You might have to sift through a 100 or so names but they usually can be found. If you don't find them then some of the info is faked.  Took me 2 minutes to find my ex girlfriend on there. She's currently listed on a dating site so it's the easy way to cut out the middleman. If she is serious she'll be open to offers, if not you'll save yourself a lot of coin writing to fat Oleg.

[JayH]

It's solid advice and any guy who doesn't listen is a fool. If you want to meet those kind of girls just go and party at the clubs. With vk and Facebook there is no excuse these days for not realising when you are being played like a fiddle.

You hang out in Moscow in the oligarchs world-- and you are afraid of Odessa girls !!

Something not quite right there!!

Honestly-- some of the frightened freddies that come to the forum are really unsuited to the fsu and even more so with fsuw !!

The forum has some spectacular stories of guys that have had the adventure/s of a lifetime to hook up with life partner-sure beats staying in a tiny circle of people in nowheresville !!

[Morty]

You hang out in Moscow in the oligarchs world-- and you are afraid of Odessa girls !!

Something not quite right there!!

Honestly-- some of the frightened freddies that come to the forum are really unsuited to the fsu and even more so with fsuw !!

The forum has some spectacular stories of guys that have had the adventure/s of a lifetime to hook up with life partner-sure beats staying in a tiny circle of people in nowheresville !!

The difference is the oligarchs are paying my wages, and they can be really generous when they like you and you do a good job.

Odessa party girls aren't so much gold diggers as financial strip miners. When you watch some old coot get his Amex gang raped for a month's wages in a country where my cashed-up employers daughter spends less than 400 USD a month on her food bill, you realise the most dangerous women to your finances aren't the ones with offshore accounts but the prospekt rats who want to live like an oligarch through YOUR offshore account.

I'll give you an example, this woman would drop 6 figures on a painting but complains if I leave even 1 cup of coke in the bottle after it's gone flat. The s65 drinks petrol like Oliver reed at a vodka distillery lock in, but she'll spend two hours arguing with the dealer to save 20 bucks on the tyres. When they bought it she managed to get them to throw in a smart car 'for the nanny', which she then sold, she then sold the s65 to a family friend at a premium who didn't want to wait for a new build and ordered a replacement having made a tidy profit at the dealers expense. When the dealer refused to repeat the deal she went to another dealer until they'd play ball. By the time we finally took delivery she'd covered my years wages to drive it.

[Deasonstacy]

As per the experience of most of the people, professionals are easy going, polite and understandable, but I don't have any personal experience with them that's why I thought that their tight schedules and work pressure might make them moody. The experiences and suggestions of all you people are very helpful, now I have a better idea how to approach professionals. I don't need to pretend anything, just being myself and show them my real self. 

[BillyB]

I have a better idea how to approach professionals. I don't need to pretend anything, just being myself and show them my real self. 

At your age in life, you should have a good idea on how people react to you when being yourself. If you're not having success attracting the people you want, you may need to change yourself because the world isn't going to change for you.

[dragonkid]

I looked for girls on AD,,,
So I could than find them on VK

But I mostly talked to her on Vk and Skype...
She told me,, she would get in trouble from her bosses at the Mail farm,,, because she was talking to me on Vk at work,,, lol
They would fine her when she did not talk to other men..

After we talked for a while,,, She quit that job..

I would appreciate if you told us clearly how to find someone on vk

[Deasonstacy]

No matter where you find the girl, compatibility between the two can be checked only after dating, same is the case with professionals, some of them may be hard to approach, but some of them may get along easily and make the process of dating smooth and easy. So, its all depend on the person whom you approached.

[Deasonstacy]

I wonder it becomes hard to approach the professional if he is a tough one. the main problem with them is from where to start the conversation, do they become really interested in talking about things other than their profession or interest?

[2tallbill]

I wonder it becomes hard to approach the professional if he is a tough one. the main problem with them is from where to start the conversation, do they become really interested in talking about things other than their profession or interest?

It's not hard to approach a professional FSUW.

Problem number one.
According to your profile you are Indian or from India, you will experience some racism,
but there are others who won't be bothered by your country. You need to approach this
as a numbers game.

Solution
Write a hundred girls that you find attractive and tell them about yourself, include some
photos of yourself taken in different places indoors and outdoors. The ones who don't
care for you or India won't write back. You've just weeded out the girls who are racists,
you aren't interested in them anyway. The ones who write back are the girls  you will focus on.
You are only looking for one woman so you don't need to worry about the ones who
don't answer your letters.

Problem number two
FSUW are not for entry level daters. You appear to lack experience in many of the
basics of boy meets girl.

How do you approach them? How to start a conversation? What to talk about?
What are they interested in? How to be interesting? (I added that one for you)

The way to be interesting is to ask about them, their interests, their hobbies,
their goals, their passions.

Approaching them is easy because you are far away and will contact them by email. 
Only the interested girls will write back, so you know that something about you interested
them. You write a hundred girls and some of them will write back. Now you have girls
to practice interaction with. If things don't work out then you can always write another
hundred girls. You always sift out the ones with character flaws, liars etc.

Examples of conversations

You: What are your hobbies?
Her: I like painting sunsets
You: I love sunsets and sunrises too, do you have some that you can show me?
Her: oh yes, blah, blah
We have some amazing sunsets in my country, I should send you some photos.
Her: that would be wonderful, blah, blah, blah,

You: Do you like _____________ reading, art, music, poetry, sports, games etc.
Learn about her interests at least a little bit, so she can see you are interested in
both her and her interests.

Homework for you: Find some nice photos of your country, of flowers, of architecture,
of beaches, etc. (even better if you are in some of the photos)

Girls like flowers and beaches. So send her photos of flowers unique to your country.
Send her photos of beaches.

This is super basic introduction to boy meets girl. You will make mistakes, don't worry
about it. Everybody makes mistakes. Inaction is your greatest enemy. Once you've
exchanged a few letters with a girl, get her on skype and if she seems like an excellent
girl then get on a plane to go meet her.

Idea number get a guide to help you. This isn't cheap but it might be a solution for you.
Stirlitz and Eduard both could probably help you.

Udachi!

Bill

[ML]

. . . the world isn't going to change for you.

Thanks for ruining my dream.

[Deasonstacy]

Thanks for such a detailed explanation 2tallbill, but the thing that is bothering me is that either the other person would be interested in me or in the beaches and architect of my country?

[oso]

Hello....after reading through this thread I decided to chime in. I don't want to bust your chops, but I think you lack a little confidence. Most of the women here want a confidant man. One who will take the lead in a relationship and guide them in life.

My wife is a professional who felt her life was not complete. She has status, a high salary job, a child but no husband to complete her family. She was a workaholic and could not keep a man. She made the decision to make major changes in her life. She will have 30 years at her job this month, and has informed the board of her decision to leave her employment....It kills me to see the tears in her eyes as she writes her farewell letter.

The majority of her friends are professional. I noticed most like to travel to see new places and enjoy the local culture. I think this subject would make interesting conversation with all of them. We go to the ballet, concerts, museums, jewelry shows, art exhibitions and travel quite a bit. We attend most festivals here in Kyiv.

I would start off by wearing your heart on your sleeve, and start with an educated conversation and give educated opinions. Ask important questions about her, and her culture....show interest!

Hope this helps

[oso]

Thanks for such a detailed explanation 2tallbill, but the thing that is bothering me is that either the other person would be interested in me or in the beaches and architect of my country?

Also it will be very easy to understand if she is interested in you or the beach.....

You will feel her in your soul. She will touch you 500 times a day. She will cling to you as you walk in the street. She will show you off to everyone just as if you were the "Hope Diamond"....you will be in her every thought....If she is into you, it is impossible to miss the signs.

[dragonkid]

According to your profile you are Indian or from India, you will experience some racism,

i am indian and let me tell you, being indian is actually a great thing. we have beautiful people and we have ugly people. just like any race. I for 1 am a great person, have great friends, and i take care of every one that is in my life and i am glad to do it, and for that i have people that love me around me. also, indian parents are one of the best parents you can have. sometimes they can be really strict, but they will take care of you no matter what, and they will buy you what ever it is that you need. as long as your not a selfish ****head. Also, we all have great jobs, lots of money and a family that we all love and take care off.

[Deasonstacy]

I think that the person who is looking for a good mate will not care much about the place from where his partner belongs, whether he is from India or any other place, instead he will only focus on the good traits of the partner that he wants to be with. And, India definitely is a very beautiful country with best parents, best life-partners that value their relations more than anything else.

[dragonkid]

India definitely is a very beautiful country with best parents, best life-partners that value their relations more than anything else.

i am actually half iranian, previous post was a joke.  Some think i am muslim, others can see my more European side, but it really doesn't matter that much, some don't care. I have noticed some women post stuff like "no turkish,indian,black, or old men".

[GatoMoon]

India definitely is a very beautiful country with best parents, best life-partners that value their relations more than anything else.

I see pigs flying! 

[GatoMoon]

According to your profile you are Indian or from India, you will experience some racism,

According to google, India is the world's most racist country!  Since birth, children were taught not to look up to people with 'darker' skin.


http://businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/116644/the-most-racist-countries-in-the-world/

[oso]

India definitely is a very beautiful country with best parents, best life-partners that value their relations more than anything else.

Then why are you looking abroad for a life-partner?

[2tallbill]

Thanks for such a detailed explanation 2tallbill, but the thing that is bothering me is that either the other person would be interested in me or in the beaches and architect of my country?

A woman isn't going to marry you because she likes the architecture in the area. You
need to capture her interest and win her heart.

You are worried about how to make conversation with a woman and to be interesting.
By delving into subjects that interest her you become more interesting. Don't over
analyse this so much.

You might need to get a guide to help you. I worry that you lack the experience to
be successful at this without help.

http://www.getrussianwife.com/services/


Udachi!

Bill

[GoldGerard]

thanks.

[Deasonstacy]

Welcome to the forum DeasonStacy. The advice you posted looks good. When will you get to practice it as in when are you going to take a trip to the FSU? Have you found a woman yet you'd like to visit? What sites are you using to communicate with women?

Thanks BillyB, the website that I am using for communicate with women is Elenasmodels.com.

[Deasonstacy]

Then why are you looking abroad for a life-partner?

If I am looking for a partner abroad, it doesn't have to do anything with my country, its my personal choice and it also doesn't mean that India is a bad country. Anybody can look for a partner in his own or other country, it totally depends on personal choice.