What is the Ukrainian/Russian girls typical character? Blunt & Prudish?

[Trenchcoat]

Just something that seems to come up and thought a thread on this would be helpful to all, myself included. From my dealings with girls so far it seems to me there is perhaps an initial bluntness and prudishness to them. This perhaps goes down over time (more so once visiting them). I do find though when in the first few stages of contact any suggestive talk seems to be a big downer as perhaps is complements as to their beauty, which they often are, since there is often little response to such compliments. Any one else found this? thoughts on this? or otherwise.

[HoundDaddyLee]

Just something that seems to come up and thought a thread on this would be helpful to all, myself included. From my dealings with girls so far it seems to me there is perhaps an initial bluntness and prudishness to them. This perhaps goes down over time (more so once visiting them). I do find though when in the first few stages of contact any suggestive talk seems to be a big downer as perhaps is complements as to their beauty, which they often are, since there is often little response to such compliments. Any one else found this? thoughts on this? or otherwise.

Trenchcoat,


I can only comment on my experiences. I have yet to meet a "prudish" woman in FSU. Blunt and to the point yes! But not prudish. If you find a woman that you have chemistry "prudish" will be the last thing on either of your minds. Once you experience it, you become addicted. 


Just my view,
HDL

[alex330]

Blunt, direct, not PC, and speaking their mind without a doubt.


Prudish I would not use to describe FSUW. Maybe standoffish or an initial wall or front up to begin with. Probably moreso with Western men traveling to find wives I imagine.

[ML]

I pretty much agree with first two respondents.

[Larry1]

I agree with HDL, Alex, and ML. I have never visited a prudish fsuw. 

[BillyB]

Prudish no, blunt yes. If you are doing something wrong, ladies can tell you in a way that doesn't consider your feelings. If you are wearing clothes that don't look good on you, they will tell you your clothes are ugly. Don't take offense.

[Jumper]

Not prudish.

Quite wary of foreign men traveling there to be sex tourist?
yes.
After a couple decades of such, you can imagine that you are a sex tourist until you prove otherwise.
 


Blunt?
Can be direct,but they do know when not to be.
Certainly an invited stranger is normally treated as a guest ,
with big hospitality and respect.
So ,if the directness is over the top, then its individual behavior not some stereotype.
 

[JayH]

Not prudish.

Quite wary of foreign men traveling there to be sex tourist?
yes.

Having read some of the OP's other posts--attempting to engage sex talk  is extremely unlikely to get a positive reaction. If that is what he thinks is prudish-so be it.
From those posts-I have seen nothing that indicates the op had progressed far enough to be discussing any sex topic.

[Gator]

Trenchcoat,

I have no idea about what you are saying to RW.  I question your style because it seems you are turning them off.  RW are not prudish.   

Talk with them the same as you would talk with an American woman you just met at a social gathering.  Be polite and be charming.  And always treat them as a lady, and that you ae a proper gentleman.  They really appreciate a man who behaves like a gentleman.   Try to find some topic of common interest, and progress from there in small steps.   Small steps.  Small steps.     Small steps. 

In other threads you voiced a fixation with large breasts, placing it at the top of your list.  Are you discussing such, or anything like that, on the telephone with women you have never met?    RW assume most foreign men will either be "losers" or "sex tourists."    Jumper just mentioned this.  RW would become immediately prudish if you jumped into sex talk.  Exceptions exist but don't go there.  Given what I know about you, I advise you to avoid the subject. 

[southernX]

Trenchcoat,

I have no idea about what you are saying to RW.  I question your style because it seems you are turning them off.  RW are not prudish.   

Talk with them the same as you would talk with an American woman you just met at a social gathering.  Be polite and be charming.  And always treat them as a lady, and that you ae a proper gentleman.  They really appreciate a man who behaves like a gentleman.   Try to find some topic of common interest, and progress from there in small steps.   Small steps.  Small steps.     Small steps. 

In other threads you voiced a fixation with large breasts, placing it at the top of your list.  Are you discussing such, or anything like that, on the telephone with women you have never met?    RW assume most foreign men will either be "losers" or "sex tourists."    Jumper just mentioned this.  RW would become immediately prudish if you jumped into sex talk.  Exceptions exist but don't go there.  Given what I know about you, I advise you to avoid the subject.

gator again has given you good explained advice 

his and others above i agree with , FSU women are not prudish , but they wont welcome any sort of sexual inuendo first up in early communications ime          you need to be the gentlemen and prove you are worth their attention and you are responsible and honest   win their trust etc 

they get plenty of sexual  innuendo locally and from foreign guys , dont go there or it will make you look cheap and trashy , uneducated and unwelcome

thus you will get dropped like a hot rock 

FSU women will be brutal honest with you , once they trust you , even more so if they love you and marry you , get used to it or get off the bus now

the other variant is total indifference or silent strike if they dont like you and you dont deserve their trust etc

you often read/hear  FSU women quote they are looking for a ''second half ''  this ime , does literally mean once married you become 2 individuals who become 1 in so many aspects of your life ,

thing is once you are chosen , you will experience a very close relationship quite possible like nothing else before it

SX 

[LiveFromUkraine]

Just something that seems to come up and thought a thread on this would be helpful to all, myself included. From my dealings with girls so far it seems to me there is perhaps an initial bluntness and prudishness to them. This perhaps goes down over time (more so once visiting them). I do find though when in the first few stages of contact any suggestive talk seems to be a big downer as perhaps is complements as to their beauty, which they often are, since there is often little response to such compliments. Any one else found this? thoughts on this? or otherwise.

What do you mean by suggestive talk? 


It's creepy to start talking about sex before you get to know someone.  I would suggest cam sites if you are that desperate. 

[Trenchcoat]

Trenchcoat,

I have no idea about what you are saying to RW.  I question your style because it seems you are turning them off.  RW are not prudish.   

Talk with them the same as you would talk with an American woman you just met at a social gathering.  Be polite and be charming.  And always treat them as a lady, and that you ae a proper gentleman.  They really appreciate a man who behaves like a gentleman.   Try to find some topic of common interest, and progress from there in small steps.   Small steps.  Small steps.     Small steps. 

In other threads you voiced a fixation with large breasts, placing it at the top of your list.  Are you discussing such, or anything like that, on the telephone with women you have never met?    RW assume most foreign men will either be "losers" or "sex tourists."    Jumper just mentioned this.  RW would become immediately prudish if you jumped into sex talk.  Exceptions exist but don't go there.  Given what I know about you, I advise you to avoid the subject.

I appreciate all of your input Gator, its great to have someone experienced like yourself on hear and take the time out to help those of us new to this out. In the UK as in the US as you  are no doubt aware if a girl calls you a gentlemen, kind, etc  9 times out of 10 is a 'your a nice guy but I don't fancy you moment'. Being too much of a gentlemen in the UK/US seems to often set you on the wrong path where in the FSU it appears different perhaps.

"Try to find some topic of common interest, and progress from there in small steps.   Small steps.  Small steps.     Small steps."

I think this is particularly handy advice for me to take on board, its often difficult to know whether I am progressing the right way. In all honesty I tend to talk about the usual mundane stuff you talk about getting to know someone and the odd few times I've deviated onto more risque subjects to try and liven things up (without going overboard) the response is fairly muted so as to have made no progress in moving the relationship to more intimate topics. I have of course only been in contact with X amount of women so its early days still. I don't mind talking about non-intimate topics but I'm wary after the last girl I met that I don't wish to not stoke the passions, but I think in her case perhaps they did not exist in the first place for me or was unsure before meeting.

Anyway, once again much appreciate your advice and all those that have commented on here, it seems pretty clear the outlook of FSW, blunt but not prudish 

[BillyB]

A lot of women do care about how the man in their future will perform in bed. How a guy brings up sex can make all the difference between turning a woman on or off. If I start liking a woman in my communications, before deciding to visit, I will ask serious questions if I didn't already asked them in the past. I would ask about religion and political beliefs. I would ask how they like to see their future family operate. I would ask them what they think a husband and wife's roles in marriage are. I would ask how much physical intimacy they need per week. Most woman are happy I'm asking serious questions since they are looking for a serious guy. After they tell me their answers, I'll tell them mine if I feel we are close enough on issues. When both parties understand each others needs and are willing to fulfill them, that's when I'll schedule a visit but I still realize even after a visit we most likely won't married. We could discover something we don't like about each other during face to face time.

[2tallbill]

Just something that seems to come up and thought a thread on this would be helpful to all, myself included. From my dealings with girls so far it seems to me there is perhaps an initial bluntness and prudishness to them.

How did you find prudish girls in the FSU?

You need to change what you are doing. You are doing something wrong.
Maybe you need to go to chat in the evening (in the USA) and tell the guys
there what you are doing and they can figure it out. The peanut gallery here
will just chew you up and give you a dozen opposite directions to follow of
which you could choose the worst combination. You've managed to find the
only prudes in the FSU unless you asked them to bring their sister to bed with
you (which will turn them pretty prudey, pretty fast)

Once the chat guys figure out where the problem is then you can rolling back
on the right path.

If you elect NOT to go with that option, then I would change everything that you
are doing. Follow a write many visit many plan. Get a Russian Visa or Belorussian
and skip Ukraine this time. Pick a large city let's say Minsk. Then write 100 very
cute girls who speak English from Mamba ONE LETTER and ask to meet them for
tea and cake. DON'T WRITE ANY GIRL LESS THAN 27 YEARS OLD.

Then show up in Minsk and see which one stands out better than the rest. You live
in Europe, this is a few hours for you. Rinse, lather and repeat until you find a
great girl. If you don't have success in Minsk, try Omsk, Kazan, Chisinau, Samara
or Sophia. 

[ML]

only prudes in the FSU unless you asked them to bring their sister to bed with you . . .

I once asked a gal if she would bring her sister to bed with us.

She said: "No, but you can bring your brother."

= = = = =

Another time, a gal wanted me to find a gal to bring to bed with us.  I told her that would never work, because if the man asked a woman for such, she would only agree when she was his number one woman.  So I told her she would have to find the second woman.

She asked a younger woman who she worked with that she had a lot of sexual conversations with (about men).

This woman said she wanted to have sex with two other people . . . but it must be two men.

= = = = = =

Another incident gave me a pretty big surprise.

A woman was acting almost prudish.  She was fairly stand-offish about any affection for 3-4 dates.  Holding hands while walking . . . that was about it.  And there was no sex with her on this first WMVM where she was one of the VM.

On a second WMVM to her city, she suddenly became very affectionate and went for the sex big time.

Later she confided in me that she had been in bed with another woman and her then husband.  I was pretty shocked . . . given her earlier seeming shyness.

She said her husband had many affairs and kept suggesting to her the threesome.  So she finally agreed because she knew he would eventually do it with two other women.  And she found the other woman to be with them.  She said that I was the only person she had ever told this to.

Said she actually became very excited about the thought . . . but then it wasn't too exciting for her in real.  Of course I really wanted to know what they did (all men want to know this), but I bit my tongue and never asked. 

[Gator]

ML,

I have examples as well.  One woman wanted to send me for my birthday her panties with her scent.  I thought this was great, and more than subtle, yet not frank. 

Then there are the examples where RW have disrobed on Skype.  I did not break the ice, knowingly, but once broken why not.  I visited one but not the other because she performed hard core acts.  That was too much for me.  Maybe not too much for other men. 

[Gator]

Trenchcoat,

You are correct that there needs to be some clue.   I say the clues will come but it takes time.  I assert  the use of subtleties is sexier and more productive than frank talk. 

Some RW would make deep guttural laughs or say something like "my my!" When remarking about how fit they look in their photos, some will say something like, "I have a good body."  That is more than enough clue.

Most of the women I met released their full passion.  Some were wildcats.    And we had never discussed sex directly.  I will also admit that some of the women I met with fond expectations proved to be disappointments.  They were disappointments before we ever got to the time to be affectionate.  There was no connection.  Sex was not wanted by either me of those women. 

This is why many men want to meet more than one woman when they travel, unless it is a followup visit.  In a way it is a crap shoot.  So keep rolling the dice.  You will win one day. 

[2tallbill]

I once asked a gal if she would bring her sister to bed with us.

She said: "No, but you can bring your brother."

I have a few stories but I don't want to wreck the thread.