To the 54 year old in Texas sending his wife from Odessa home

[Boethius]

Canada used to have a similar fiance visa programme.  I believe the time frame for marriage was similar as well.


I don't think the intention of the 90 day period was to allow people to get to know one another better.  Rather, it was originally intended for couples who knew each other, usually an immigrant marrying someone from his/her home country and his/her fiancee/fiance.  The time frame was enough to arrive, get settled in, and arrange a wedding. 

[Turboguy]

Although it seems to be common for people to use the 90 day period to "get to know each other" if you read the government's description of what a fiancee visa is for there is no way they consider it a "get to know you" time.   It is intended for two people who have decided they definitely want to get married to arrange and consummate a marriage ceremony.

[alex330]

So it didn't work out.  Isn't it better for the gal to go back home than to continue, get hooked into a bad marriage, get pregnant, etc.?

It's better she return home of course. I mentioned that. Better than issues further down the road.

 

I have a question, Alex. Did he visit her or did they meet at any time during those six years before she came to the US?

Yes, he visited her in Ukraine. I will know more when she arrives back home in UKraine and gets on Skype with my wife.

So she was 26 when she met him, and he was 48, nice "normal" 22 year age gap. You say she is from a well off family, what is well off in ukraine? $1m household?

Yes, ages are correct. I said she was from a good family in Ukraine. A good girl, well brought up, no trouble. Nobody in my wife's neighborhood is well off. Most make less than $200 per month currently.

[alex330]

The girl is an adult and is just as responsible in getting to know the person she is going to marry. Each and everyone of us need to have some accountability for our actions.

Correct. But after arriving here in the US this poor girl went into the city alone one day and something bad happened to her. It was for this reason the man's mother told him to send her home. He decided not to deal with it.This was a weak and scumbag move on his part.

He wasted the best years of her life.

I'm surprises she waited that long.  Also, why hadn't she learned English in all that time if she was interested in a relationship with this guy?  Did the guy speak Russian?

Sounds like neither spoke the other language very well...

[Brasscasing]

Yes, he visited her in Ukraine. I will know more when she arrives back home in UKraine and gets on Skype with my wife.

Yeah sorry bud it was a pointless question. I realized after reading the other posts this a.m. that I'd over looked the fact they would have needed to have spent some face time together to even have applied for a K-1 (insert self inflicted clue bat attack here).

Brass

[LiveFromUkraine]

Correct. But after arriving here in the US this poor girl went into the city alone one day and something bad happened to her. It was for this reason the man's mother told him to send her home. He decided not to deal with it.This was a weak and scumbag move on his part.

He wasted the best years of her life.

I'm sorry to hear that she ran into something bad and had no one here to support her.   That is terrible.  In a way it's good that she is going home to where she has support.  It's a shame she couldn't say because of the opportunities she would have compared to back home.

[ML]

Although it seems to be common for people to use the 90 day period to "get to know each other" if you read the government's description of what a fiancee visa is for there is no way they consider it a "get to know you" time.   It is intended for two people who have decided they definitely want to get married to arrange and consummate a marriage ceremony.

I don't think the intention of the 90 day period was to allow people to get to know one another better.  Rather, it was originally intended for couples who knew each other, usually an immigrant marrying someone from his/her home country and his/her fiancee/fiance.  The time frame was enough to arrive, get settled in, and arrange a wedding.

This still does not address the accepted idea here that two people really don't know each other until they live together.

Boe, I know that you have mentioned this truth several times before here; I am not sure if Turbo has.

Here is most recent:

You are always strangers until you live together.

[BC]

I'm sorry to hear that she ran into something bad and had no one here to support her.   That is terrible.  In a way it's good that she is going home to where she has support.  It's a shame she couldn't say because of the opportunities she would have compared to back home.

Maybe there's a white knight around that will whisk her off to Las Vegas before the K-1 expires.  Wouldn't be the first time.  If she really wants to stay she probably can find a way.

[ML]

Maybe there's a white knight around that will whisk her off to Las Vegas before the K-1 expires.  Wouldn't be the first time.  If she really wants to stay she probably can find a way.

The K-1 does not allow for substitute husband/wife.

But actually, you are not totally wrong.  Any person in USA on any type of visa can marry a USA citizen and apply for AOS (adjustment of status).  But this has nothing to do with the initial K-1 (except that's how she got into the country).

[Muzh]

Hey, maybe Slumba can rescue her like he did with that other RW he rescued in Denver.

[BC]

The K-1 does not allow for substitute husband/wife.

But actually, you are not totally wrong.  Any person in USA on any type of visa can marry a USA citizen and apply for AOS (adjustment of status).  But this has nothing to do with the initial K-1 (except that's how she got into the country).

Correct.  A while back there was a discussion here about a woman who came on a K1 but then married someone else.  As long as it was not her intent to do so when applying for the K1 it shouldn't be a hinderance as she would not have committed fraud.

[LAman]

Just wondering right now.
Don't know why this thread topic says "......sending his wife from Odessa home" They are not married, right? And if the 90 day visa is up soon, if this guy didn't marry her, the visa would expire and she would HAVE to go back home to Odessa anyway. Maybe the marriage was not going to happen regardless?
The guy may be a shit head but this girl has some blame here for believing in a loser. And for 6 years she waited??? Either the patience of an angel or desperate for anyone to be with?

[alex330]

Maybe there's a white knight around that will whisk her off to Las Vegas before the K-1 expires.  Wouldn't be the first time.  If she really wants to stay she probably can find a way.

It is too late to stay and she will be home in the next day or two. She is packing now.

This was yesterday, she is on the plane.

[ML]

This was yesterday, she is on the plane.

Can the plane be turned around ?

[BillyB]

after arriving here in the US this poor girl went into the city alone one day and something bad happened to her. It was for this reason the man's mother told him to send her home. He decided not to deal with it.This was a weak and scumbag move on his part.

Did she get arrested for shoplifting(her fault) or get sexually assaulted(not her fault) and insinuated she's a hooker? A 54 yo guy just threw out 6 years of his life and the money he invested during that time over one incident and mommy's recommendation seems unreal.

Can the plane be turned around ?

Absolutely. We need the flight number and someone willing to make sure that plane doesn't reach Ukraine by calling in a bomb threat.

[BC]

Absolutely. We need the flight number and someone willing to make sure that plane doesn't reach Ukraine by calling in a bomb threat.

No waaaaaayyyyy..... and spend a few years in jail plus pay for all those re-routed and delayed passengers..  easier just getting another K1

[alex330]

Just wondering right now.
Don't know why this thread topic says "......sending his wife from Odessa home" They are not married, right?

Yes, typo on my end. A mod can edit the title if they choose. It should read "fiance".

[Larry1]

Yes, typo on my end. A mod can edit the title if they choose. It should read "fiance".

Make that fiancée

[Faux Pas]

This still does not address the accepted idea here that two people really don't know each other until they live together.

Boe, I know that you have mentioned this truth several times before here; I am not sure if Turbo has.

Here is most recent:

Meh bullshit. There's a hellva lot of people that don't know each other even after they live together. Also, only 30-40 years ago it was taboo to live together and not be married. It was looked upon with serious scorn and many marriages survived that

[MikeTO]

Meh bullshit. There's a hellva lot of people that don't know each other even after they live together. Also, only 30-40 years ago it was taboo to live together and not be married. It was looked upon with serious scorn and many marriages survived that

The reason for this is people are more likely to have sex before marriage with was also taboo.