Why we stopped dating AW, volume 12

[msmobyone]

To be honest, if I were to get an RW I would try to moderate to a minimum the amount of western feminism she could be exposed to here in the UK.

Getting rid off the TV license & terrestrial TV and going instead for Apps internet based access would be the way forward for me I think. Just too much rampant feminazi content on terrestrial TV these day, particularly the BBC News like to slot in the feminist agenda and propaganda material to get women to act more like men and convince them they are being short changes, something is not right, or how they should be. Shame as other than that I generally like BBC News over the other news channels.

The type of workplace too if she were to work needs to be guarded against too as many unscrupulous feminists & gold diggers promote their activities to other women through work also.

Getting her preggers as soon as possible & watching thy neighbour is the way to go

TC -Even though you pt in the similey - you are coming across as a control freak

I have had countless disagreements with guys who believe the FSU partner needs to be immersed in 'our' culture and - therefore - watching Russian / Ukrainian TV [ delete as appropriate ] should not be 'encouraged' .. including non provision of satellite / internet access via a setup box / IPtv...

[Turboguy]

To be honest, if I were to get an RW I would try to moderate to a minimum the amount of western feminism she could be exposed to here in the UK.

Getting rid off the TV license & terrestrial TV and going instead for Apps internet based access would be the way forward for me I think. Just too much rampant feminazi content on terrestrial TV these day, particularly the BBC News like to slot in the feminist agenda and propaganda material to get women to act more like men and convince them they are being short changes, something is not right, or how they should be. Shame as other than that I generally like BBC News over the other news channels.

The type of workplace too if she were to work needs to be guarded against too as many unscrupulous feminists & gold diggers promote their activities to other women through work also.

Getting her preggers as soon as possible & watching thy neighbour is the way to go

Perhaps if you have a big walk in closet you can lock her in there and just let her out when you need her to prepare your meals, clean or you want her to provide sex for you.  Fill the closet with lots of shoes and of course she will be quite content to sit in there all day trying on the shoes. 

[Miquel Westano]

To be honest, if I were to get an RW I would try to moderate to a minimum the amount of western feminism she could be exposed to here in the UK.

Getting rid off the TV license & terrestrial TV and going instead for Apps internet based access would be the way forward for me I think. Just too much rampant feminazi content on terrestrial TV these day, particularly the BBC News like to slot in the feminist agenda and propaganda material to get women to act more like men and convince them they are being short changes, something is not right, or how they should be. Shame as other than that I generally like BBC News over the other news channels.

The type of workplace too if she were to work needs to be guarded against too as many unscrupulous feminists & gold diggers promote their activities to other women through work also.

Getting her preggers as soon as possible & watching thy neighbour is the way to go

No disrespect, but the comments above make me think you are not ready to enter into a relationship.  If you go into any relationship thinking the only way to save it, is to eliminate the ability of your new girlfriend/wife's exposure to changes in attitude or growth, you are destined to fail. 

In addition what will grow is resentment and anger.  You are going to have zero chance if you try to control your new wife's ability to make lifestyle decisions.  A good woman, like a good man, will make the right decisions.  A bad woman, or man, has already made them. 

I couldn't imagine a life where I was so afraid of my wife making her own choices I felt like I needed to isolate her from society.  I also couldn't imagine a wife that tried to keep me isolated either.  People are social animals and need the freedom to interact. 

I hope you find happiness.  But I hope it is not at the expense of a woman's happiness. 

[Faux Pas]

To be honest, if I were to get an RW I would try to moderate to a minimum the amount of western feminism she could be exposed to here in the UK.

Getting rid off the TV license & terrestrial TV and going instead for Apps internet based access would be the way forward for me I think. Just too much rampant feminazi content on terrestrial TV these day, particularly the BBC News like to slot in the feminist agenda and propaganda material to get women to act more like men and convince them they are being short changes, something is not right, or how they should be. Shame as other than that I generally like BBC News over the other news channels.

The type of workplace too if she were to work needs to be guarded against too as many unscrupulous feminists & gold diggers promote their activities to other women through work also.

Getting her preggers as soon as possible & watching thy neighbour is the way to go

IIRC, you are young, dumb and full of Yakk so I'll try to not rough you up with what I have to say. Again and again you ask questions (which is encouraged and fine) yet all of them from a position of like you're shopping at IKEA. Frankly Trench you are not ready for any relationship with any woman with the exception of maybe a hooker.

Of course you might luck up and find a like-minded woman at home complete with the tatts, butch haircut, pierced nose and tongue with a belly hanging over her military style belt.

Seriously Trench, you are young, inexperienced and devoid of anything emotionally to satisfy or sustain a relationship with anyone. It's evidenced when you make statements like this. Read your post again, do you seriously believe what you wrote?

[Slumba]

To be honest, if I were to get an RW I would try to moderate to a minimum the amount of western feminism she could be exposed to here in the UK.

Getting rid off the TV license & terrestrial TV and going instead for Apps internet based access would be the way forward for me I think. Just too much rampant feminazi content on terrestrial TV these day, particularly the BBC News like to slot in the feminist agenda and propaganda material to get women to act more like men and convince them they are being short changes, something is not right, or how they should be. Shame as other than that I generally like BBC News over the other news channels.

The type of workplace too if she were to work needs to be guarded against too as many unscrupulous feminists & gold diggers promote their activities to other women through work also.

Getting her preggers as soon as possible & watching thy neighbour is the way to go

It's a funny post, to be sure ... assuming there is a slight kernel of truth in there concerning your views, I would say that you are worrying too much.

If you are in such an environment, then the first task you need to set yourself to ... is to move!  Live somewhere where you can feel comfortable with yourself.

[Boethius]

To be honest, if I were to get an RW I would try to moderate to a minimum the amount of western feminism she could be exposed to here in the UK.

Getting rid off the TV license & terrestrial TV and going instead for Apps internet based access would be the way forward for me I think. Just too much rampant feminazi content on terrestrial TV these day, particularly the BBC News like to slot in the feminist agenda and propaganda material to get women to act more like men and convince them they are being short changes, something is not right, or how they should be. Shame as other than that I generally like BBC News over the other news channels.

The type of workplace too if she were to work needs to be guarded against too as many unscrupulous feminists & gold diggers promote their activities to other women through work also.

Getting her preggers as soon as possible & watching thy neighbour is the way to go

First, I would not recommend getting a woman pregnant until you have lived with her for at least two years.  You will, essentially, be marrying a stranger, and the last thing you want is to have to be tied to her for 18 years because you did not know the essence of her personality.


Second, any attempt to control what another person at some point backfires on you.  It may not be soon, but it will occur. 


I am with FP.  You are not ready for a relationship.  Your post is the "poster boy" post of why WW delay marriage.

[Patagonie]

TC you are too much cerebral.

I saw some guys isolating their women here.
It works or it didn't work. Generally they lack of confidence or they had been harmed in the past.
I refused to play this game.
I am enough confident that i am a worthy man.
If she becomes a true spoiled AW, adept of the blue pill and exploiting the laws to her benefit, i would say that we have therefore no future.

[Boethius]

He's not cerebral enough, IMHO.


She won't become an AW, because TC lives in the UK.

[Trenchcoat]

You may all think that, but let me tell you a little story:

Not long ago I was working with a Polish guy, he was telling me how to meet women.

Anyway, turns out the same time he was telling me how to meet a woman another Polish man was at his place boning his woman.

He did not know about this at the time of course, neither did I, he only found out later when she went off with him.

He was gutted, his wife was apparently beautiful, the thought of the guy's cock up inside her he just couldn't get off his mind.

The fact that he was working while his wife was being screwed by another guy no doubt hurt also.

She had fallen into bad western habits, started smoking, etc. He didn't mistreat her as far as I knew. Anyway, he ended up back living the single life.


Point being is that it could happen to anyone, I'm not saying being a control freak, I just suggest being careful. Find working hours the same as your wife for example, the Polish guy here didn't. I feel there is such a thing as inviting misfortune. Sure, you need a girl into you with chemistry, etc, but RW could well see you as weak and gullible if you let her carry on, she'll disrespect you and then see better out there for her. Just like RW may take advantage of you if she see's you as too generous. I'm just saying don't be too complacent in the situation you're in as I see it.

[Boethius]

Yes, because no FSUW smoke, and none have ever cheated on their husbands back home.

[ML]

If your going to marry a foreign girl and bring her back home, she's going to become acculturated no matter how hard you try to seclude her.

What about a ranch in middle of nowhere in Montana, Wyoming, etc.?

Yes, I know he is in UK . . . but he could relocate.  Also to sheep farm in Australian outback.

[ML]

Keep in mind that women are also attracted to fit younger men, and few MOBs find pleasure in going to bed with the old goats  with beer bellies, saggy butts and questionable performance that they happened to marry. Then they come to RW abroad forums and ask advice on how to best hide an affair with a young and hot lover from their old ugly husbands 

Many on this discussion site (both men and women) often criticize the men you describe with respect to they shouldn't have gone after and married such women.

However, what about the other side of the story?

How would you Pitbull and other females here categorize the women you have described above?

Why did they chose to become associated with the men described by you?

Let's see if you have intellectual honesty Pitbull in sticking to the scenario, answering my question and not deflecting off to another topic or scenario.

I understand you are in academia Pitbull . . . so we can further observe if you will display academic honesty in your response.

[BillyB]

another Polish man was at his place boning his woman.

Point being is that it could happen to anyone, I'm not saying being a control freak, I just suggest being careful.

If your wife wants to commit adultery, how are you going to stop her? If she wants to embrace feminism, how are you going to stop her? It's best you do your homework on a woman before proposing. Make sure she has the same beliefs and values that you hold dear and you won't have to worry she'll become a feminazi boning other men.

[ML]

Make sure she has the same beliefs and values that you hold dear and you won't have to worry she'll become a feminazi boning other men.

That's pretty naive Billy.

[BillyB]

That's pretty naive Billy.

Maybe for men who are naïve but I certainly wouldn't be in the situations TC have been in. Many times he visited and got involved with women who aren't interested in him. Wasted time and money. He is not reading women right and it has molded him into a man who will not even trust a wife. Some people get involved with all the wrong people more than others. We've given him advice to get to know women better. He may have a hard time identifying quality women and women that are into him. I do know he doesn't spend enough quality time communicating with women before committing to a visit. He needs to figure it out. I did.

[ML]

All true what you wrote in second posting Billy.

However one can "Make sure she has the same beliefs and values that you hold dear" . . . to the highest degree possible . . .

And it still will not follow that . . . "you won't have to worry she'll become a feminazi boning other men.

There is this word . . . change.

[Boethius]

Many on this discussion site (both men and women) often criticize the men you describe with respect to they shouldn't have gone after and married such women.

However, what about the other side of the story?

How would you Pitbull and other females here categorize the women you have described above?

Why did they chose to become associated with the men described by you?

I can't answer for pitbull, but I will say that from my observation, this occurred mostly in the 1990's, when the FSU economies were in total collapse.  It still occurs in Ukraine.


Can I blame a girl for using the only thing of value she has - her youth and beauty - to escape poverty and a dead end situation?  No.  I also have no sympathy for a man who uses that situation, and then learns his young wife is sleeping with someone else.

[Patagonie]

We did have a fun time during the party- dancing, wine. The pic was taken just before we were ready to go home. The happiest looking girls are those who rarely go out. The gambling business is prohibited now all over Russia with a few exceptions. The girls are all married, 4 are stay home moms and 2 are working.


I remember after my first trip to the US, people would ask me what were the things that particularly impressed me. The amount of attractive women in their 40s, 50s and older was an item on my impressions list. According to my experience, Russia has many good looking young ladies and the US has many good looking older ladies. My theory is that if they get divorced by 40 or 50, AW put themselves back into good shape and go enjoy their single life and dating again; whereas, RW in the age category do not have a hope to date again and do not make enough efforts to make the transformation in their looks. However, that is just a guess.


I guess many men disagree that there are many attractive women in US because they do not go shopping often (if we exude grocery shopping and home improvement stores). Guys, go to a mall in a good neighborhood and you will see so many stunning, breathtaking women, your head will be spinning.

I don't have any theory about old RW. However i have a theory about older women in the west.
It's true that's some women are less paid than men for the same job, same time spent at work, same education, but there are also a very high amout of workplace accidents among men (and they are also prone to risky situations also). Therefore they die ealier than women which raises a gap or six years in lifetime in France.
When you look at the age pyramid, women clearly outnumber men after 50.
At this age they cannot keep a man with some children, and those men are more mature, the testosterone has lowered and their head is more leading their life than the boobies' size.
So those women are in market that gives to men a clear advantage. And they have to work to capture their attention again.
I have met a lot of women around 45 who were clearly hitting the wall, multiplying depressions, ONS. Some have miserable sixities, some know how to rebound and they become a tender, respectful and caring woman for their men. A song that was not to be really known for men, when they were in their twenties, thirties.
A song close of what we are daily living with our russian our ukrainian spouses.

The key is the ego. Ego is sometime useful to keep self esteem, but when you have too much ego irrelevant with your qualities and real worth, you can hit the wall badly. That's what happen to many western women when the menopause is slapping them.

[Boethius]

There are a LOT of women over 50 who don't want to live with a man. 


Why do you think the majority of divorces are initiated by women in their forties, fifties, and sixties?

[LiveFromUkraine]

There are a LOT of women over 50 who don't want to live with a man. 


Why do you think the majority of divorces are initiated by women in their forties, fifties, and sixties?

I don't blame them.  I find the older I get the more I don't want to live with someone else.  I need my alone time Bo!   

[mhr7]

There are a LOT of women over 50 who don't want to live with a man. 


Why do you think the majority of divorces are initiated by women in their forties, fifties, and sixties?

Probably they finally admitted to themselves that they married for reasons other than love. At least that's been my experience.

[Boethius]

Here are the reasons cited in a study -


http://www.wkfamilylaw.com/think-know-leads-divorce-penn-state-study-reveals-common-reasons-divorce/

[Boethius]

I don't blame them.  I find the older I get the more I don't want to live with someone else.  I need my alone time Bo!   

    

[Patagonie]

There are a LOT of women over 50 who don't want to live with a man. 


Why do you think the majority of divorces are initiated by women in their forties, fifties, and sixties?

Majority of divorces are initiated by women because they have large financial benefits from this.
Make the divorce more interesting financially for men and it will reverse the curve

[BillyB]

However one can "Make sure she has the same beliefs and values that you hold dear" . . . to the highest degree possible . . .

And it still will not follow that . . . "you won't have to worry she'll become a feminazi boning other men.

There is this word . . . change.

Change can happen and people fall out of love but many will not milk their husbands for support while boning others. They try divorce and then move on with their lives.

Some people's minds are stronger than others. There's simply no way I'm going to do drugs, become an alcoholic, or pick up a bad addiction such as gambling even if I get in a depressed state due to circumstances beyond my control. If a man finds a woman with a weak mind, then she's more likely to change at some point of her life. We all read people differently. Some seem to surround themselves with better stronger people than others and life is good.