Stolen Election

[fathertime]

Pitbull, it is illuminating that you do not mention the ECONOMY and see no problem in the current trend of losing manufacturing jobs.  I gather you are employed in one of those jobs isolated from much of reality. 

And what is so 'illuminating'?  Manufacturing jobs have been leaving before Obama took over.  We have a tremendous oversupply of most material things.  Who is going to get out there with a good reputation and SELL is as critical as anything. Trump sullies the USA more than any other candidate ever could.


Fathertime!

[alex330]

Sounds a bit like my neighbor/friend...The posse has over are all white, gun fanatics,ex military and in their early 30's... They won't do squat when the election is lost...they actually DO have something to lose, a lot in fact.  They work, many have wives/kids, love their Coors light, and spinning stories around the BBQ.  A good percentage of them have beautiful non-white wives.   I'm not sure what you expect this younger generation to do when the election is over, but I don't for a moment believe it wil be revolution or massive civil disobedience.   Probably complaints over more beer, get up in the morning and go to work.

Besides the age bracket and miltary they do not sound like the same group of men FT. I do not believe anything will happen right after the election either. These things take years and start with isolated incidents.

By 2030 whites will be a minority in the US. 

Well, about 50% of those Latinos identify as grumpy old white men so those numbers are a bit misleading.

[pitbull]

           NOT!   


I posted:   I agree sexual aggression from a position of power is wrong


When you feel you can process information with both sides of your brain, please read again.

Do not backpedal. I read exactly what you meant. "Not the worst thing for a president". In the long gone times of your youth it was indeed not a big deal and women were expected to just deal with it, like trump junior suggests they should. Well, not any more.

[pitbull]

I agree with two of your positions, indifferent with a third, and require more deliberation about the fourth. 

Pitbull, it is illuminating that you do not mention the ECONOMY and see no problem in the current trend of losing manufacturing jobs.  I gather you are employed in one of those jobs isolated from much of reality. 

There is also the issue of FOREIGN POLICY.  I guess that is a another area that you give a low priority.

It is illuminating that someone thinks those well paying manufacturing jobs will ever come back. It says even more about a person who thinks that trump is the one to bring them back.

[pitbull]

Hillary Clinton cares about the children so much that she supports killing unborn babies and the sale of fetus meat for profit. Try to reconcile that one with a Hillary supporter.

We need Hillary so that trump doesn't drag us down to the caveman mentality displayed above.

[jone]

Do not backpedal. I read exactly what you meant. "Not the worst thing for a president". In the long gone times of your youth it was indeed not a big deal and women were expected to just deal with it, like trump junior suggests they should. Well, not any more.

I believe jeopardizing the United States of America, like releasing Top Secret, Secret and Confidentiall information to our enemies is tantamount to treason.  If it comes out that Hillary unknowling did these things do you think she should be impeached? (It probably won't come out until after the election.)

In my mind, while I abhor sexual impropriety, and I believe that anyone practicing it cannot earn the right to be President, there are many worse things that such an individual can do.  Hillary kept her private email server so that she could coordinate her illicit activities, such as coordinating between State and her husband's outstreched hand (for money, not groping women as he is wont to do) to operate in a treasonous way to the oath that she took.    This disqualifies her from serving as a President of our country as well.

So, what say you Hillary lover?    If it comes out that there were top secret emails that she destroyed, should she be impeached?  I'll bet you deflect.  You don't have the courage of your convictions.

By the way, Pitbull, do you know the meaning of the word "IS"?

[Slumba]

It is illuminating that someone thinks those well paying manufacturing jobs will ever come back. It says even more about a person who thinks that trump is the one to bring them back.

You have no clue about manufacturing, that is clear.  Stay in your bubble of academia and be content.

[pitbull]

You have no clue about manufacturing, that is clear.  Stay in your bubble of academia and be content.

You bave no clue about economy or reality beyond creepy conspiracy theories, obviously.

[Gator]

Do not backpedal. I read exactly what you meant. "Not the worst thing for a president". In the long gone times of your youth it was indeed not a big deal and women were expected to just deal with it, like trump junior suggests they should. Well, not any more.

Again you overlook my clear statement that it is "WRONG."   I did not say nor imply "just deal with it."  You continue to replace my words with your words. 

If you need further clarification, let me give you one.  IMO Trump should have apologized profusely to the American public and to the women he groped.  He should have promised better.  He did neither, so I am disappointed.
 
Now back to the topic:

Trump's sexual aggression is wrong, dead wrong,  but IMO not as bad as  coverup, commiting a felony,  corruption, quid pro quo bribery,  etc.  Hence, "not the worst thing."   Do you agree? 

BTW, I imagine there are more women groping victims, yet are any of them in recent years?  Sorry, I don't keep up with the growing list.   

[pitbull]

Hillary kept her private email server so that she could coordinate her illicit activities, such as coordinating between State and her husband's outstreched hand (for money, not groping women as he is wont to do) to operate in a treasonous way to the oath that she took.    This disqualifies her from serving as a President of our country as well.

And you know all of this how? Obviously in your hatred for Hillary you make up weird conspiracy theories but do not try sell them as truth. Sometimes a wheel is just a wheel. I prefer to believe an FBI director with spotless reputation rather than listen to an old angry conspiracy theorist.

[Faux Pas]

I believe jeopardizing the United States of America, like releasing Top Secret, Secret and Confidentiall information to our enemies is tantamount to treason.  If it comes out that Hillary unknowling did these things do you think she should be impeached? (It probably won't come out until after the election.)

In my mind, while I abhor sexual impropriety, and I believe that anyone practicing it cannot earn the right to be President, there are many worse things that such an individual can do.  Hillary kept her private email server so that she could coordinate her illicit activities, such as coordinating between State and her husband's outstreched hand (for money, not groping women as he is wont to do) to operate in a treasonous way to the oath that she took.    This disqualifies her from serving as a President of our country as well.

So, what say you Hillary lover?    If it comes out that there were top secret emails that she destroyed, should she be impeached?  I'll bet you deflect.  You don't have the courage of your convictions.

By the way, Pitbull, do you know the meaning of the word "IS"?

There hasn't been one single credible sexual impropriety accusation of Trump come to light. Not one. Don't get yourself caught up in the hack job of the Hillary campaign. They haven't supplied one shred of actual proof. They don't have to as they can just fling any allegation about Trump out there and the lap dog MSM will run with it. Kind of like the Russians are hacking Washington to change the election. The rich and powerful live by different standards than the rest of us. Nobody is more proof of that than Hillary and Trump.

The one consistent thing Hillary has done throughout her 40 year political career is lie and nobody does it better than her. Anyone crossing her path or getting sideways either dies or get professionally destroyed. It's her M.O.

[Slumba]

You bave no clue about economy or reality beyond creepy conspiracy theories, obviously.

Manufacturing is already coming back to the USA.  Of course you don't know this.

Hey genius, why don't you talk to your MIT engineering friends and find out that I am correct. 

It's not like I , Mr. Trailer Trash, have  contacts at Harvard or MIT, right?

[jone]

And you know all of this how? Obviously in your hatred for Hillary you make up weird conspiracy theories but do not try sell them as truth. Sometimes a wheel is just a wheel. I prefer to believe an FBI director with spotless reputation rather than listen to an old angry conspiracy theorist.

Hah!  Just as I thought.   You deflected.

Read the FBI report.  She said in the report that she could not remember that 'c' meant confidential, even though she sent out confidential emails herself.  And the 14,900 emails that are likely in the hands of our enemies are the ones that  she said she deleted because they were of a 'personal' nature.  The FBI was unable to review them because she had deleted them. 

Some great student of history you are.  Bill Clinton, when caught lying to the Special Prosecuter, for which he was impeached, but not convicted, used as his defense the meaning of the word 'IS'.    He did it when he got caught in the outright lie.  "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN".   

I am not saying this lightly, Pitbull.  You have the mentality of someone who knows the words to say, but not the meaning behind them.  Just .... like ..... Trump.   

If you had the quality of conviction, like my US Senator from California, Dianne Feinstein, then you would be sickened, as she was, with the lies and duplicity of the Clinton White House. 

You seem to be all  of that which you accuse our Trump supporters here.

[Gator]

Manufacturing is already coming back to the USA.  Of course you don't know this.

Hey genius, why don't you talk to your MIT engineering friends and find out that I am correct. 

It's not like I , Mr. Trailer Trash, have  contacts at Harvard or MIT, right?

Don't blame pitbull.  She is merely following the liberal tactic of SILENCING conservatives.  Remember another liberal RWD member who cried "racist" in his every fourth post.  If they did not try to silence,  they would have to discuss facts.   

Does anyone think a liberal President will be bipartisan, listening to 100% of Americans?

[Slumba]

Stolen election, you say?



Democrats and Hillary-Lickers - DON'T WATCH!

"IT doesn't matter what the legal and ethics people say, we need to WIN this motherf***er"

Direct quote from Democrat operative in this video.

[jone]

There hasn't been one single credible sexual impropriety accusation of Trump come to light. Not one. Don't get yourself caught up in the hack job of the Hillary campaign. They haven't supplied one shred of actual proof. They don't have to as they can just fling any allegation about Trump out there and the lap dog MSM will run with it. Kind of like the Russians are hacking Washington to change the election. The rich and powerful live by different standards than the rest of us. Nobody is more proof of that than Hillary and Trump.

The one consistent thing Hillary has done throughout her 40 year political career is lie and nobody does it better than her. Anyone crossing her path or getting sideways either dies or get professionally destroyed. It's her M.O.

I have no opinion on the sexual impropriety of Donald Trump.  It doesn't interest me.  But, if it were true, and I saw Trump, I'd punch his lights out. 

[Slumba]

screencap from above video

[Gator]

It is illuminating that someone thinks those well paying manufacturing jobs will ever come back.

You did not say it, yet I imagine you mean factors such as robotics are playing a large role in eliminating jobs.  News for you - America's industrial history has been one of increased productivity with displacement of labor.   Our industry has always evolved, typically being on the cutting edge.  And as Slumba implied, America manufactures robots.   

The new technologies will make life better and business more productive.  The world will demand these new technologies.  Investments in new capacity will be made; however, manufacturers will consider investing elsewhere because Federal regulations,  tax rates and treaties are disincentives. 

It says even more about a person who thinks that trump is the one to bring them back.

Trump proposes a reduction in taxes, regulations and treaties.  Hillary proposes  more taxes, more regulations, and more treaties.   

[pitbull]

Hah!  Just as I thought.   You deflected.

Read the FBI report.  She said in the report that she could not remember that 'c' meant confidential, even though she sent out confidential emails herself.  And the 14,900 emails that are likely in the hands of our enemies are the ones that  she said she deleted because they were of a 'personal' nature.  The FBI was unable to review them because she had deleted them. 

Some great student of history you are.  Bill Clinton, when caught lying to the Special Prosecuter, for which he was impeached, but not convicted, used as his defense the meaning of the word 'IS'.    He did it when he got caught in the outright lie.  "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN".   

I am not saying this lightly, Pitbull.  You have the mentality of someone who knows the words to say, but not the meaning behind them.  Just .... like ..... Trump.   

If you had the quality of conviction, like my US Senator from California, Dianne Feinstein, then you would be sickened, as she was, with the lies and duplicity of the Clinton White House. 

You seem to be all  of that which you accuse our Trump supporters here.

 FBI spent a lot of time and effort to look into Hillary's email case and did not find it prosecutable. I trust they did a good job and I trust Comey, highly respected by republicans by the way. End of story. I do not give weight to internet prosecutor- wannabe dudes who "read the report" over the FBI conclusion.

All those opinions about my "mentality" and "social circle" are very cute. Typical old angry white dudes. 

[BillyB]

Does anyone think a liberal President will be bipartisan, listening to 100% of Americans?

Of course Hillary will represent everybody, consider them equally important and do a lot for the deplorables. 

liberal tactic of SILENCING

Speaking of silencing, Julian Assange has been silenced.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-by-state-actor/ar-AAj2Zmi?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Nobody should be happy with either candidate winning. It's disappointing to read that some are happy with their candidate winning. All Americans should demand better. The decline of our nation will most likely be from an inside threat instead of a foreign threat. We have only ourselves to blame for electing flawed people into power. We will have a president that is definitely flawed for the next 4-8 years. Hopefully there won't be too much damage.

[Slumba]

FBI spent a lot of time and effort to look into Hillary's email case and did not find it prosecutable. I trust they did a good job and I trust Comey, highly respected by republicans by the way. End of story. I do not give weight to internet prosecutor- wannabe dudes who "read the report" over the FBI conclusion.

All those opinions about my "mentality" and "social circle" are very cute. Typical old angry white dudes. 

Conformity can lead to closed-mindedness.

Though to be fair, you are not the only one, look at all the liberal tears and denial in this thread:

http://www.quora.com/Why-do-most-liberals-I-talk-to-not-care-about-the-Podesta-email-leaks

(hint to that guy: they aren't "liberal", just the same totalitarians whose spiritual brothers killed 60+ million Russians and dynamited 40,000 + Orthodox churches)

[Gator]

FBI spent a lot of time and effort to look into Hillary's email case and did not find it prosecutable. I trust they did a good job and I trust Comey, highly respected by republicans by the way. End of story. I do not give weight to internet prosecutor- wannabe dudes who "read the report" over the FBI conclusion.

Inside information says many FBI staff are displeased by Comey's decision.  Let us see what Comey does with the apparent case of attempted quid pro quo bribery of the FBI by a Clinton associate.
   

Typical old angry white dudes. 

A lot of matronly women are saying the same.   

[Slumba]

basically admitting to domestic terrorism... people were beaten up and had their cars vandalized while they were in them, at this DNC-sponsored protest.

screencap from above video

[Slumba]

NBC execs leaked Trump "Access Hollywood" tape to Washington Post...

but refuse to release the raw video of Juanita Broaddrick (an edited version of which aired), which likely would show the producer shutting down the line of questioning about Hillary's enforcer role in keeping her quiet

NBC/Comcast, huge company , leaks to Washington Post, owned by Jeff Bezos, guy with $50B+ net worth ... nothing to see here folks, move along, all is well...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3842714/NBC-execs-LEAKED-p-gate-tape-WaPo-screw-Trump-REFUSE-release-damaging-Hillary-video-alleges-threatened-Bill-s-rape-accuser.html

[jone]

Then you did read the report?  Surely you must have verified that which I stated.  You are so heavy into deflection that you will fall hard. 

James Comey is a Republican.  He did not say that Clinton was innocent.  He said that the evidence was not actionable.  He also said that should the missing emails turn up, and it proves that Clinton has been lying, he would be the first to prosecute.   But you are so into denial that you can't even read the words I wrote.  Hillary Clinton did exactly as the Clintons have been doing for the past thirty years.  Deny everything.

I hope your children don't have to grow up knowing what a blowjob is because it is being talked about on the elementary school campus.  This is what happened here in the United States when Clinton was caught with Lewinsky.  And the entire US knew he was lying.  But you don't care about that stuff.

Now we have Trump talking about stuff like this and I stand by my convictions that he is not someone I would vote for.  So, I ask you again:  If it comes out that these 14,900 emails (have you ever heard of the Watergate tapes?) are recovered and it proves that she had secure information on her server?  And that she lied to the FBI?  Nixon was impeached and resigned because of the missing segments in the Watergate tapes whereby he incriminated himself.  Now there are the missing emails.  And the emails coming out from Assange are getting scarily close to being those same emails that she said had nothing on them that would implicate her.  Any one of those emails come out and she's a goner. 

It is not a conspiracy theory.  It is reality.  The emails did exist.  Everyone around Hillary was hacked.  Why do you think that she was immune?  Can you imagine trying to keep correspondents of 14,900 emails silent?  There are recipients and senders of those emails not just the emails that resided on her server.  The Wikileaks emails that are coming out now demonstrate that the State Department was in communication with the Committee to Elect to determine how to handle the emails.  That alone is actionable. 

You call me an angry old white guy.  I don't know what your definition is of 'old'.  But I'll accept that.  And I am white.  But I am not angry at anyone.   Show some backbone.  Admit that she is not the paragon of virtue that you tell everyone she is.  We've been down this road before.  You get so entrenched in your opinions that you can't let go of them.  Even when you are proven wrong.

Either way, I can live with the outcome of the election.  As I have said before, America has to govern.  I don't want to waste four years of my life watching a soap opera of Hillary defending her lies to the American public.  Give me Pence or Kaine.