Musings on Relationships and Other Stuff

[DearGod]

Would you marry a woman that has no sex with you? Would you expect a woman to marry you if you didn't work and wont do anything around the house? I suspect the next woman who gets involved with you and turns off the sex is going to get punished. I don't think you're going to say she has the right to do so without consequence.

Firstly, your wife is very dependent on you. You are the one that earns, pays for her university fees,car, trips to ukraine, plastic surgery, till she becomes an independent woman, who will be able to fend for herself and make her own demands, you will see her true side. It is like the saying, to see a mans true side, give him power. regards to sex, sex is down to two things, us guys focus mainly on the physical, lasting a while, being fairly active. the second part is the emotional side, which i sometimes forget, you say your brain is your biggest muscle, if that is true, are you lacking the physical attributes? In the gym, there is a certain exercise i do, it is called barbell hip thrust, good for your legs, glutes, and helping you multiply the time you spend in bed. I never really needed that exercise, my legs from what women have told me, is my biggest physical attribute, last long enough in bed? Some would argue i last too long. So why do i do it? Because for me, just like in sex, i like to give as much as i can to the other person. You think earning more money is the root to a happy marriage, yes it is i believe everyone needs to have atleast the basics in life, bills paid, a house and so forth. Money is even more important if your wife is a dependent woman, after she is independent, she can choose what she wants. what will you do then? Earn even more money? There has to be more to you, than just money. I hope i am wrong, and you and your wife have a long and happy marriage, but till you stop thinking money will solve all your marriage problems, you will have short term marriages that last till your wives become independent, and choose what they want. I won't need to pressure my future wife to have sex, as like the other women i have dated, they will be at times more eager than i am.

[ML]

I won't need to pressure my future wife to have sex, as like the other women i have dated, they will be at times more eager than i am.

You can't say this for sure. 

Some women just are not interested in having sex . . . even if they receive many pleasures from it during any session.

[BillyB]

Firstly, your wife is very dependent on you. You are the one that earns, pays for her university fees,car, trips to ukraine, plastic surgery, till she becomes an independent woman, who will be able to fend for herself and make her own demands, you will see her true side.

My wife is more beautiful than 99% of the wives of millionaires, billionaires, politicians, and famous movie actors. She also has the green card. She could easily swap men without missing a beat and could get a job and make her own money. She doesn't need me for financial reasons. Figure out why she's stayed with me 5 years instead of swapping me for someone with more money. You may have a hard time figuring out a woman's true side after 5 years of knowing her but don't assume everybody else has the same problem.

you say your brain is your biggest muscle,

Never said that.

In the gym, there is a certain exercise i do, it is called barbell hip thrust, good for your legs, glutes, and helping you multiply the time you spend in bed.

I don't need that exercise.

Money is even more important if your wife is a dependent woman, after she is independent, she can choose what she wants. what will you do then? Earn even more money? There has to be more to you, than just money.

What do I do then? A woman doesn't make me. If I become single again, I can pick up the phone and go on a date next day. I can become an international playboy, or I can find another quality woman to marry me. Life doesn't end and become depressing if I become single.

I hope i am wrong, and you and your wife have a long and happy marriage, but till you stop thinking money will solve all your marriage problems, you will have short term marriages that last till your wives become independent, and choose what they want.

I don't need your hope. It's best you focus on finally finding a woman that is willing to share her life with you. Save your hope for yourself.

I won't need to pressure my future wife to have sex,

Find a wife first and then come back and tell us how it worked out for you after a few years.

You've never been married and you've been an adult for only a few years of your life. You think you got the world figured out so you tell everybody here that FSU women only marry us for financial benefits and men marry them because of sex. You are clueless that there are many other factors involved before people decide on getting married. Over a hundred thousand FSU  women put their profiles up looking for a foreign man. Tens of thousands of Western men searching for Western women. There's a reason 97% + aren't going to get married. Since you already have the answers to life, you aren't capable of learning the other requirements people have before dedicating their life to another. But if economic status for women and sex for men were the only requirements, I'd say over half the men and women in this endeavor would end up married and be happy in that marriage with the only requirement of sex or money being fulfilled.

You are in your 20's and have stopped learning. After spending months at this forum you think you got it all figured out and need not learn anymore. You have a dim view of men and women in this endeavor yet you're in this too. Why? I believe you are looking down at the women you're communicating with and will use them only sex until you find a virgin willing to save herself for only you because you are a rare, special kind of guy and legend in your own mind. Until you find that virgin, you deceive women into the bed by giving them the impression you're loaded and a more accomplished man than you actually are.

Lately, your only purpose here is to try to educate us with your knowledge by way of insult and to show the photos of the women, without their permission, you communicate with although you haven't met them. Why try to brag? Some of us men are living the life you want and you're jealous. You're in denial that we are doing better than you so you say the marriages we have are not real and will blow up in our faces later on. Posters are responding to your posts less and less. They are ignoring you and the stupid things you say. With your attitude and dim view of humanity, you are in prime position to fail in relationships, on the job, and in life. Just challenge yourself to get to half of where I'm at in life by maintaining your beliefs. Come back here in 10 years, read your posts and you may learn based on what you've written, you've described yourself and the gold digging women "you" attract instead of the sincere women we attract.

[DearGod]

She could easily swap men without missing a beat and could get a job and make her own money.

No she can't, millionaires,playboys, etc don't pay for girls trips alone to ukraine, university fee's, and give them money to buy land back home.

Figure out why she's stayed with me 5 years instead of swapping me for someone with more money.

Before she came to the US, she told you she was going to be an obedient house wife, and raise your kids. Where are those kids billy?

If I become single again, I can pick up the phone and go on a date next day. I can become an international playboy, or I can find another quality woman to marry me.

Nope

Until you find that virgin, you deceive women into the bed by giving them the impression you're loaded and a more accomplished man than you actually are.

My ex knew everything about me (all my negatives,which i knew i had to do before the relationship escalated), her response was live with me in russia. So i did find someone, i hardly spent a penny on her. If my ex was a gold digger, don't you think she would of took my gifts and thanked me? It was the opposite, we spent time going out to cafes, eating pizza, and go back home eating ice cream under the duvets whilst watching 90 day fiance, and staying up early in the morning. She would of dumped my ass, if when i told her that us living in the UK was a bad idea.

Bottom of my heart i wish you the best though, i do think your wife is a genuine woman, and didn't marry you solely for your money. But you are failing her in a way, hence the holes i see in your relationship. Instead of thinking about your next woman, focus on your wife, she is indeed beautiful. i know if you fixed a few things, and stop viewing her as an object, and more of a person, she will really admire you, and feel more positively about you. Out of all the wives i seen on here, your wife is by far the most beautiful woman, just a shame you have this view of bacon and she gives the goods, i know you can really make it work if you drop this whole leader of the household macho bs.

[BillyB]

i know if you fixed a few things,

It's best if children are seen, not heard. Your rhetoric wouldn't be so bad if you were right sometimes. Here's something for you to think about and try and let is soak in. We're both fishing in the same pond. In my 40's I'm attracting and securing women you can't catch in your 20's. Regardless if you think I'm flawed and got some things to fix, focus on your issues to try and get to where I'm at in life and we'll revisit this talk in a few years on who's the bigger stud.

[DearGod]

You can't say this for sure. 

Some women just are not interested in having sex . . . even if they receive many pleasures from it during any session.

I think it is to do with the emotional side, not feeling loved maybe. That is what some have told me.

It's best if children are seen, not heard.

You have no kids with your wife, you can't flip that in any direction.  I actually pity you, i told you in pm, airing your marriage on here is not something i want to keep on doing. But it seems like you enjoy it, maybe you are deluded.

[Gator]

I think it is to do with the emotional side, not feeling loved maybe. That is what some have told me.

Part of the story.  There is more.  Date a cougar, and in between sessions try talking with her.       

[DearGod]

Part of the story.  There is more.  Date a cougar, and in between sessions try talking with her.     

Funnily enough a few a days ago i was considering to have a no strings attached with an Azerbaijan ex trophy wife. She speaks russian, and was impressed with my russian, she is in her late 30's and is in incredible shape. She has given light signals to me, phoning me at odd times, very hospital, and greeted me to her home wearing a bath robe. But yes, i see why you more mature guys go abroad, your dating pool is large, and women who are generally divorced (Including men), are sometimes damaged, not always their fault. I am interested in sex during marriage, because from what i heard it is much different from dating. But that being said majority of guys spend an average of 3minutes in bed, so i think point number one (physical satisfaction), is a problem, not sure how that will apply to guys that actually do their duty in bed 

[ML]

But that being said majority of guys spend an average of 3minutes in bed, . . .

You keep bringing up the 3 minute thing.

That is actually just part of a joke.

Man:  Do you want to have a quickie?
Woman:  No . . . I want the full 3 minutes.

And, even where true, the 3 minutes refers mostly to thrusting time . . . not the full time of foreplay and other manuevers.

Plus, there is probably a substantial difference between educated men (most of us here) and uneducated men who don't even think women have orgasms . . . in terms of time spent pleasing the woman.

Did you not read my 3 hour event story ?

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=21326.0

[Gator]

Funnily enough a few a days ago i was considering to have a no strings attached with an Azerbaijan ex trophy wife. She speaks russian, and was impressed with my russian, she is in her late 30's and is in incredible shape. She has given light signals to me, phoning me at odd times, very hospital, and greeted me to her home wearing a bath robe.

Late 30s is not yet a cougar, but getting there.  And she may fit the role if she is sensuous, energetic, self-confident, loquacious, and willing to  teach. 

But yes, i see why you more mature guys go abroad, your dating pool is large, and women who are generally divorced (Including men), are sometimes damaged, not always their fault.

A woman that one man may consider as damaged may behave ideally with another man. 

I am interested in sex during marriage, because from what i heard it is much different from dating.

"Sex without love is an empty experience, but as empty experiences go it's one of the best." Woody Allen

Seriously, I find a marriage to be far more involved and demanding than sex, yet sex is an essential part of the relationship. 

Married sex is certainly more varied than dating sex.   For example, when you are trying to make a baby, the sex is certainly different.  So is it after the baby arrives.     Vacation sex, making up sex, celebration sex, kids are away sex, wham bam sex, ambivalent sex, inebriated sex,  comfort sex, trying something new sex, it's been that long sex, etc.   Whatever the occasion, the postcoital period is so important.    By the way, forget about sex when your job is a hassle or the kids are sick.    And there will be times of no sex for inexplicable reasons.   

[alex330]

Late 30s is not yet a cougar, but getting there. 

Late 30's is pretty much a cougar by definition.

[Anotherkiwi]

Late 30's is pretty much a cougar by definition.

And for those of us who are somewhat older than you?  What do you call a cougar's mummy?    I could hardly be accused of chasing a cougar if she's ten or fifteen years younger than me!

[alex330]

And for those of us who are somewhat older than you?  What do you call a cougar's mummy?    I could hardly be accused of chasing a cougar if she's ten or fifteen years younger than me!

Most people I know would consider a woman over 35 or 40 max a cougar....


Don't let it bug you Kiwi, my wife calls me a dedushka and I am only 43 

[Brasscasing]

I've just been informed by a reliable source that women in their late 30's on the hunt refer to themselves  as Pumas, not Cougars, nowadays.

Brass

 

[DearGod]

You keep bringing up the 3 minute thing.

That is actually just part of a joke.

Man:  Do you want to have a quickie?
Woman:  No . . . I want the full 3 minutes.

And, even where true, the 3 minutes refers mostly to thrusting time . . . not the full time of foreplay and other manuevers.

Plus, there is probably a substantial difference between educated men (most of us here) and uneducated men who don't even think women have orgasms . . . in terms of time spent pleasing the woman.

Did you not read my 3 hour event story ?

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=21326.0

i have this girl who sometimes hits me up a few times a month, and i talk to a fair share of women. most of them wouldn't be able to deal with a guy that didn't last in bed. I don't doubt you can get a woman off with just your hands, i am talking from personal experience. But actual sex, is not just thrusting. It is a mixture of different tempo, moving a woman's legs to get different angles, listening to her breathing patterns,s how she reacts. Thrusting is always different, as it is an art, not a technique, you experiment with small improvisations to basic moves. Nothing outrageous (Only sometimes  ) You can always do thrusting for 15mins, till she is a bit tired, and mix in your hands, and other parts included,and then repeat. but nothing beats thrusting in a womans eyes. You are close and intimate with a woman, she feels it more than you do. i could just imagine a woman saying  "you can only stick your rod in for 5 seconds, but then i will just my hands", wouldn't that be fun for years? Anyways, as long as you get her off, i doubt it will be the end of the world, but a lot of 3minute guys don't do that. hence why they last 3 minutes, as they only focus on their own needs.

Married sex is certainly more varied than dating sex.   For example, when you are trying to make a baby, the sex is certainly different.  So is it after the baby arrives.     Vacation sex, making up sex, celebration sex, kids are away sex, wham bam sex, ambivalent sex, inebriated sex,  comfort sex, trying something new sex, it's been that long sex, etc.   Whatever the occasion, the postcoital period is so important.    By the way, forget about sex when your job is a hassle or the kids are sick.    And there will be times of no sex for inexplicable reasons.   

Sounds like when i am living with a girl vs dating, but yours is more intense. Thanks for the reply.

[BillyB]

You have no kids with your wife, you can't flip that in any direction.  I actually pity you,

You're not only rude but also very strange. Earlier you implied my wife won't be with me after she gets educated, gets a job and becomes independent. Now you imply I should knock her up and ruin college for her. Ask any woman and most men. It's stupid to get a woman pregnant while she's getting higher education. A few more years and my wife's making $70K+ a year. Or should I be concerned about you pitying me by getting her pregnant to satisfy you? Again, you need to focus on your life and if getting a girl pregnant is important to you, try to find a woman who's going to allow you to impregnate her. Lots of talk from you but no action.

i told you in pm, airing your marriage on here is not something i want to keep on doing. But it seems like you enjoy it, maybe you are deluded.

Some newbies enjoy reading stories of married life with an FSU women. There are men like you that scare people from posting their life stories here. They don't want stalkers, insults, or devious people trying to get involved in their family's lives. You are one of the posters here that discourage people from sharing their happiness. I've seen people stoop to such low levels of trying to get in contact with other posters gfs and wives or contact neighbors and coworkers of posters to spread rumors. Even with all the low lifes on the internet, my marriage is solid. There's nothing you or any other weirdo can do to affect my marriage.

Funnily enough a few a days ago i was considering to have a no strings attached with an Azerbaijan ex trophy wife. She speaks russian, and was impressed with my russian, she is in her late 30's

You've ridiculed men and women with large age gaps but if you get involved in one, it's okay.  It's interesting you're almost getting women close to my age and I am getting women close to your age. Beggars can't be choosers. Something is better than nothing so go for it. Come back and let us know if she's allowed you to knock her up.

[DearGod]

try to find a woman who's going to allow you to impregnate her. Lots of talk from you but no action.

You've ridiculed men and women with large age gaps but if you get involved in one, it's okay.  It's interesting you're almost getting women close to my age and I am getting women close to your age. Beggars can't be choosers. Something is better than nothing so go for it. Come back and let us know if she's allowed you to knock her up.

We are talking about the UK, a no strings attached to a woman who is a trophy wife.





Not hard to find a woman serious about you in russia, who is younger than your wife,want to raise a family asap, and don't mind if i live in russia,or in the west.  You talk about being an international playboy, having women at your feet, guys on here may buy that crap, but i don't. You are a fat guy, who grooms 17 year olds, who shake at the thought of someone spending $20 on a meal.

[HoundDaddyLee]

You're not only rude but also very strange. Earlier you implied my wife won't be with me after she gets educated, gets a job and becomes independent. Now you imply I should knock her up and ruin college for her. Ask any woman and most men. It's stupid to get a woman pregnant while she's getting higher education. A few more years and my wife's making $70K+ a year. Or should I be concerned about you pitying me by getting her pregnant to satisfy you? Again, you need to focus on your life and if getting a girl pregnant is important to you, try to find a woman who's going to allow you to impregnate her. Lots of talk from you but no action.

Some newbies enjoy reading stories of married life with an FSU women. There are men like you that scare people from posting their life stories here. They don't want stalkers, insults, or devious people trying to get involved in their family's lives. You are one of the posters here that discourage people from sharing their happiness. I've seen people stoop to such low levels of trying to get in contact with other posters gfs and wives or contact neighbors and coworkers of posters to spread rumors. Even with all the low lifes on the internet, my marriage is solid. There's nothing you or any other weirdo can do to affect my marriage.

You've ridiculed men and women with large age gaps but if you get involved in one, it's okay.  It's interesting you're almost getting women close to my age and I am getting women close to your age. Beggars can't be choosers. Something is better than nothing so go for it. Come back and let us know if she's allowed you to knock her up.

+1


Billy has hit the nail on the head as to why I do not post about my relationship in the forum. In fact when the individual used to enter chat, folks would clam up and the discussions would become generic because he was talking about what we were saying in chat.


I love reading trip reports and hearing about successful relationships. I also like to hear about the failures so they can be a learning experience.


A few months back someone mentioned that the forum had just turned into a political forum. If people refuse to share their lives because of personal attacks, it is all that will be left. I hope the moderators will recognize the pattern of behavior of certain members and fix the problem.


Just my 2 cents.
HDL

[BillyB]

You are a fat guy,

It must really bother you that people you think are physically unattractive are doing better in life than you are. Call me ugly and balding too. It doesn't change the fact of the kind of women I attract.

You've only been an adult for only a few years of your life. You've accomplished nothing but speak as if you know everybody and everything. You got everybody's relationships here pegged as a business transaction involving exploitation. Quit worrying about what goes on in other people's lives. Quit being jealous that we have something and you got nothing. You have little to offer a woman. Until you find a woman that is willing to view you as a man worth living her life with, you probably don't possess enough qualities to make you a likeable and financially responsible person. Figure it out. Come back in 10 years and let us know how things worked out for you. You know you're doing well if you are fat and can still pull the women I pull.

I can't see the photos you posted but as usual, it's probably of women that haven't made a commitment to you or didn't give you permission to post them.

[Boethius]

+1

Billy has hit the nail on the head as to why I do not post about my relationship in the forum. In fact when the individual used to enter chat, folks would clam up and the discussions would become generic because he was talking about what we were saying in chat.

I love reading trip reports and hearing about successful relationships. I also like to hear about the failures so they can be a learning experience.

A few months back someone mentioned that the forum had just turned into a political forum. If people refuse to share their lives because of personal attacks, it is all that will be left. I hope the moderators will recognize the pattern of behavior of certain members and fix the problem.

Just my 2 cents.
HDL

2tall shares his personal life.  No attacks.

ML shares his personal life, complete with photos.  No attacks.

Gator in the past shared his personal life, even his divorce.  No attacks.

alex has shared his personal life.  No attacks.

Patagonie has share his personal life.  No attacks.

jone shared a TR to Russia with his lady.  No attacks.

There are probably others that I've missed. 

I think the view that this is common on the forum is inaccurate.  No one who is uncomfortable with sharing their life is obligated to do so, but there are very few attacks on others' lives.

[BillyB]

2tall shares his personal life.  No attacks.

ML shares his personal life, complete with photos.  No attacks.

Gator in the past shared his personal life, even his divorce.  No attacks.

alex has shared his personal life.  No attacks.

Patagonie has share his personal life.  No attacks.

jone shared a TR to Russia with his lady.  No attacks.

Your reading comprehension skills are different than mine. Most people you mentioned have been attacked for various reasons. If people post long enough, they will eventually get attacked. The usual disagreements aren't a big deal but some take it too far. Gator was viciously attacked by GQ and 2tall was blacklisted by the FSU women of AntiDate for sharing his life on the net are some of the worst cases. Even if most people don't get attacked, it just takes ONE incident and the hundreds who read and are anxious to share their joy get discourage from saying too much about their lives. Who has been on this forum for over a year and haven't seen or get the impression some posters get so personal that they try to get involved in other people's lives to cause harm? We got DearGod saying he's got some evidence on me in post #121 and it's clear he is disgusted with most people here. He doesn't hide the fact he likes to dig for dirt and if he can't find any, he makes stuff up. As long as retards like DearGod are allowed to post here, people aren't going to share their lives. As long as retards like DearGod are allowed in chat, people are going to go silent. He's a rat. He can't keep his conversations with the girls he communicates with or PM's or chats with posters here between themselves. He better get used to rejection because he's going to see a lot of it.

[supraman]

 Why don't we have a separate thread called

 " Women Dragonkid and or , Deargod   speak to, email  or have slept with  Photos thread  "

  For christ sake ,please stop posting photos of women on the forum as you do them no favors by doing so .
  I am sure your ex would not like her photo spread around the internet along with a story of you sleeping with her ,,,, please show her your threads and let me know she is cool with it and your stories - I will gladly admit i am wrong if both Anna and your ex are happy with your posts and attached photos  .
You will impress no one with pictures of pretty girls on this forum - actually the opposite will be the case .
   
 
   

[HoundDaddyLee]

2tall shares his personal life.  No attacks.

ML shares his personal life, complete with photos.  No attacks.

Gator in the past shared his personal life, even his divorce.  No attacks.

alex has shared his personal life.  No attacks.

Patagonie has share his personal life.  No attacks.

jone shared a TR to Russia with his lady.  No attacks.

There are probably others that I've missed. 

I think the view that this is common on the forum is inaccurate.  No one who is uncomfortable with sharing their life is obligated to do so, but there are very few attacks on others' lives.

Please, just read every post DK has written as "DearGod". You will see he is attacking members here. Billy is just his latest target. A few months ago I was told to shoot myself in the head by a member (the post was edited to remove the offending material).


It is obvious you want to rule the forum. I doubt I will post again. This place is becoming the cesspool RUA has become. It is a shame and sad. But as long as you protect people like DearGod you are driving away people who can learn and teach on this forum. We may as well rename the forum "Arguing US Politics". That is all that will be left. I currently have a very uplifting story I want to share. But with DK/DG on the prowl I will only share with people I trust.


HDL

[ML]

Please, just read every post DK has written as "DearGod". You will see he is attacking members here. Billy is just his latest target.  I currently have a very uplifting story I want to share. But with DK/DG on the prowl I will only share with people I trust.  HDL

HDL and others of a like mind.

You are taking the wrong approach.

The better approach:

1) Post everything that you want to.
2) Ignore all those who criticize.
3) Never answer those who criticize.
4) Thank those who give positive comments.

I can't believe those here who continually do back and forth arguments with persons who are clearly a$$holes.
Why would you waste your time answering a$$holes and giving them reason to post more?
Do you regularly go into 3rd grade classrooms and enter into deep arguments with those kiddies?

Several here are a$$holes . . . but the good guys and gals who answer back to them are showing clear signs of weakness and insecurity themselves.

[LAman]

HDL and others of a like mind.

You are taking the wrong approach.

The better approach:

1) Post everything that you want to.
2) Ignore all those who criticize.
3) Never answer those who criticize.
4) Thank those who give positive comments.

I can't believe those here who continually do back and forth arguments with persons who are clearly a$$holes.
Why would you waste your time answering a$$holes and giving them reason to post more?
Do you regularly go into 3rd grade classrooms and enter into deep arguments with those kiddies?

Several here are a$$holes . . . but the good guys and gals who answer back to them are showing clear signs of weakness and insecurity themselves.

ML, people here like to feed the trolls. Whether its the chest bumpers or to feed an ego, plenty of food for the trolls.
Just look at the #1 post ML.....if you ignore then trolls they die.