Belarus

[RussianGal]

What are some of the must see places?

1) Belarussian Opera/Ballet. The season starts in September though.

2) State Philharmonic Theater. Location: av Nezavisimosti, 50.

3) Museum of the 1941-44 War History is quite interesting (it also has an outdoor display of old planes and tanks). Location: av Nezavisimosti, 25a.

4) Observation Wheel can be fun, if you want to look at Minsk from above.

5) If you have time, you can go outside of Minsk (1 hour drive, 25 miles) to the village-museum 'Dudutki'. There you`ll taste moonshine, ride a horse, watch some craftsmen (like blacksmith and potter), etc.
1 year ago it was quite interesting to visit for both of us - me and my husband.

6) 16th century The Mir Castle (outside of Minsk as well) is quite beautiful and worth visiting.

7) State Circus. Location: av Nezavisimosti, 32.

8 ) Our central underground stations are quite decorated (in Soviet style) and interesting.

9) Komaroskij market - big outdoor and indoor shopping area (mostly food) could be of interest. You can also buy some tasty 'blini' at the entrance. My hubby loved going there to buy groceries. 

10) Restaurants I personally prefer:
Rakovskij Brovar (go for beer, they brew it there);
Pechki-Lavochki (nice Belarussian/European cuisine),
cafe London (offers good coffee and atmosphere),
MaksiBIS and cafe at the rail-way station on the 2nd floor (quick, tasty and cheap lunch).

Here are some links:
sightseeing
restaurants
night clubs

[mischief]

Good list, russian girl…

Would like to add some places…
-   Trinity Suburb is a must see… here are some pictures: http://fotominsk.by/foto/thumbnails.php?album=38
-   Rakovski Suburb area with the Peter and Paul church and famous Rakovski Brovar restaurant, where not only beer is good but Belarusian food and music. And if go for a fish, you can actually pick the fish from their huge fish tank and they can kill it and cook it right before your eyes…
-   Gorki park, where you can fine the Observation Wheel, RG wrote about, and can have a nice boat ride on the river Svislach.
-   Dudutki is a magnificent reconstruction of the traditional way of living in Belarusian village in 18th - 19th century.
Here is a Belarus photo gallery:  http://www.world66.com/europe/belarus/lib/gallery

Among the restaurants, the Italian “Parmigiano” in the building of the night club “Bronx” is one of my favorite. 
Club-casino "BELAYA VEZHA" is a fun place … here is their site: http://belaveja.by/page/eng/
“Presto” is a great night coffee house, highly recommended…

[Todd]

I went to Minsk in September of 2004 and met my wife Kate there for the first time.  Hopefully, I won’t be too bias in my response.  I have been to roughly 60 countries, and I travel for a hobby as well as for business.  Here are the plusses that I found about being in Belarus:

1.   As has already been mentioned, the women are truly very beautiful.  I’m not sure what it was, but for my standpoint, I have never seen more beautiful women anywhere. 
2.  I also felt that Belarus was still in a time capsule of how things might have been like in the FSU 20 years before.
3.  I really enjoyed going around Belarus and learning more about the country’s history, which is Kate’s area of study. 
4.  It isn’t too overrun by tourists especially after August.
5.  Easy to get to from the East Coast USA via Frankfort on Lufthansa.
6.  Cultural events were extraordinarily cheap.  Ballet was something like $10 US for the both of us for balcony seating.  Ballet was the second best that I’ve been to after the Bolshoi.  It certainly was better than anything in the US.
7.  I found Brest and Narvich to both be extremely interesting, Brest from an historical perspective and Narvich from a beauty perspective.
8.  While the airport IS cavernous, I found getting in and out of the country much easier than other places that I have been.  (Presently, I’m flying back and forth the Saudi Arabia every 2 weeks, and the worst part of it is the airport in Jeddah.)


Here are some of the minuses:

1.   I DID get the prostitute calls, but they were generally polite and limited to between 11-midnight.  Also, I only got 1 or 2 calls per night. 
2.   Hotel that I stayed (second best in Minsk) was not up to snuff.  Also, Kate had to leave by 11 p.m. each night and was constantly harassed when leaving by the staff and the guys outside the hotel.
3.   Food was at best tolerable.  On the plus side, I did lose 2.5 kgs in 2 weeks, which is a GOOD thing.
4.   Weather reminded me a bit of home (Michigan).  Although, I don’t think that I have ever seen snow come down the 2nd week of September.  It can be warm there during the summer, but I wouldn’t bet on it.  If you are going to be there for more than a few days, you will get bad weather at least part of the time.
5.   Kate came here in July 2005 and recently went back from Feb 3- May 25.  She felt the country had changed quite a bit for the worse over that time. (I’m not sure how much of that is a slightly different point of view and how much of that is reality, but she is generally pretty unbiased.)
6.   I felt that women were treated very poorly in Belarus.  However, I might be looking at this from my Western point of view.  However, most hotels have a strip joint.
7.   While I was greatly impressed by the women, I was not correspondingly impressed by the men.  I guess many of the good ones have left the country to work elsewhere in Europe.

If you decide to go back to the region a second time, I would highly recommend going to Vilnius and meeting your girlfriend there.  I found the city and the country to be extraordinary. 

Hopefully, I don’t get into too much trouble tonight...

[RussianGal]

...I felt that women were treated very poorly in Belarus .. I was not correspondingly impressed by the men...

Ditto!

[BradSTL]

1) Belarussian Opera/Ballet. The Here are some links:

RussianGal, and mischief, I appreciate these links.  It seems sources for Belarussian attractions are limited, if not ever changing.

Any suggestions for attractions/things to do, outside of Minsk, such as Vitebsk, Mogilev, Brest?   If I travel there... I would hope to be able to see more than just Minsk.

[Shadow]

For the guys who are complaining about getting dumped. Going to another country will not change you by magic.
If the UW dump you it means they are not happy with the difference between your writing and how you are in real life.
Think about what YOU an do better. If you want women that will look up to you and accept all beause you saved them go to Asian countries. 

[Julia G]

 This August I had a visitor coming to me in Minsk. So I can give tips that can be useful for some future guests of Minsk.
 Firstly I thought about place for him to stay. Variant of renting apartment I dumped at the very beginning, because it is kind of risk - to trust some unknown person who will rent apartment to a foreigner, also renting an apartment in Belarus requires such bureaucracy procedure as registering, which for people  renting apartments is more complicated than for those who live in a hotel. Also prices for this are comparable with ones of not expensive hotels. So if budget isn`t very tight, I would recommend staying in a hotel (of course, on most tourist sites in English only more expensive hotels are advertised and it`s hard for non-russian speaker to find info about other hotels with better prices and good service. If somebody wants to know addresses and phone numbers of those cheaper ones, he is welcome to PM me about it). I chose an hotel that was closest to my apartment in Minsk, it appeared to be not expensive too (prices begin from 18USD and are same for foreigners and belarusian citizens) - http://www.hotelzvezda.com/english.php. We were satisfied with hotel service - they did registration easily, there were no prostitute calls,the hotel is situated in rather quit and safe place so we didn`t have to take taxi, but travelled by public transport (10-day ticket for buses and trollies costed near 5USD), I wanted him to feel my city from its inner site and look at its people.
 Also we arranged a tourist trip for sightseeing. We find only one agency that works with individual clients, most deal only with organized groups - http://www.viapol.info/index.htm (give this link to your russian-speaking lady). So we had a wonderful excursion on weekend.
 Good and not expensive places to eat (we didn`t have a billfor meal there for 2 more than 10USD, I don`t eat meat , but it can be little bit more for 2 meat-eaters ) - Lido (Prospekt Nezavisimosti,49-1) and Maxibis (Prospekt Pobeditelei, 1).

[nzboy]

Hi Julia I was in Minsk for a month in July august at Minsk linguistic University and will be back there for 3 months next year.Must check out lido I was told about it but never checked it out .I love pizza at restuarant just a short walk from academia metro stop on righthand side heading out of city on Skorina .Of course my favourite is krinetza the vegetable soup especially  and pork ,apricot and sourcream is beautiful too

[RussianGal]

Yes, 'LIDO' is a good, cheap place, I liked it there.
'Kriniza' - sure! Loved eating there during my student years in Minsk.
'MaksiBIS' - good and cheap place too. I did have a food poisoning once, caused by their not so fresh rice though.
Also check out a cafeteria at the rail-way station (second floor to your left): cheap, good + the view is great (on Minsk gates).

All these places mentioned above are good for lunch, if you don`t want to spend $$ amount for a restaurant.
Besides, it gives you an idea where locals eat. It sure was a lot of fun for my hubby. :-)

[av8or1]

Belarus.......interesting place.  There has already been plenty of good information from other posters, some natives, so I can't really add much, but I would like to offer my experience regarding the topics mentioned previously.

I spent two weeks in Minsk in May of 2004.  Yes, it's been a while, I realize that.  Overall I recommend Minsk as a place to find your future partner or to sightsee.  There's plenty to do and it's amazingly easy to get around.  The metro system is well designed and you can get around without difficulties.  The McDonald's wasn't half bad either!   I drank bottled water but other than that I found the food to be just fine.  There was an awesome Belarussian cafe on the main street there (forget the name now) that I would heartily recommend.  Stay in a hotel if you can/want to because the registration of the visa was a pain in the butt, I stayed with the woman I was visiting and we had to go to the magistrate (I think that was the term she used) twice on separate days.

About the women...in short, they are beautiful, without doubt.  However, I didn't think that they were any more beautiful than the women in the other FSU republics.  Most all RW are a cut above, there's just something in the water over there!   If you're thinking of trying Minsk or Belarus in general as a new "stomping ground" because you're tired of the attitude you're experiencing in Ukraine/wherever I would tell you to that you need to rethink your strategy.  The women aren't any less spoiled in Belarus.  Like most things in life, there's good and bad everywhere and Belarus is no exception.  You should travel to Minsk/Belarus because you are interested in seeing this city/country and potentially finding a woman while you're there.

Finally, the subject of the new Belarussian "laws" regarding foreign marriage.  Some here have dismissed them but I'll have to take a dissenting opinion.  From what I have read and heard from other guys, these "laws" are being taken seriously and are being enforced.  Dunno why, but that is the report I'm getting back from friends who have been communicating with the women.  Sure, you can find profiles of these women on the Internet, but I would think twice about trying to contact one of them and have personally avoided it.  Too much hassle for my tastes...

Anyway, hope this helps.  Good luck to all.

Best,

Jerry

[Julia G]

Jerry, if you`re making such anti-advertisement about Belarus and its women then give exact reason or don`t make it. What laws? I, being belarusian and knowing situation from inner side can say that there`s only one law that can be connected with what you said. Not long ago our government noticed that some agencies introduce themselves as marriage ones but really recruit for prostitution and slavery. So with intend to protect women they made stricter laws for registering a marriage agency and getting license for it. I personally saw lots of advertisement of already licensed agencies (but after looking through their men I don`t think the law can completely protect our women from control freaks who seek unspoiled traditional wives, alcohol/drug addicts, abusers).
  Also more formal things should be done before international marriage for couples that got acquainted through agencies, but these formal things are possible to do. Real man won`t be afraid of an extra bureaucracy procedure. So it will be kind of filter, it will be even better for our girls.
 There`s a way around - to get acquainted with our ladies through not belarusian internet sites and then either tell you got acquainted through internet forum or if you go to visit not at guest visa that you met just here.
 Guys, please, don`t believe everything mass-media tells you about Belarus!

[av8or1]

Jerry, if you`re making such anti-advertisement about Belarus and its women then give exact reason or don`t make it.

Uh Julia, I will let this comment pass as an emotional overreaction based upon your bias to your native country.  The only thing I will say about it is don't tell me what to do.

It was clear from my original post that I recommended your country as well as the city of Minsk in general as a good place to visit.  What I left out were the details of the reports I have been getting from friends who have been there since these new "laws" were passed.  I left these events out of my original post because I was trying to be fair to your country, maybe these were isolated events, who knows.  And you accuse me of speaking unfairly about Belarus?  Strange folk you are.  Since you pressed me for information, here it is in all of its ugly detail: one of my friends was harrassed in the airport as he went through the "green" customs line by being asked a bunch of questions about why he was there.  When he answered honestly they continued the questioning for about another half hour he said, finally letting him go after that.  Another friend spent a night in "detention" after being spotted by the local "police" while being out at dinner with the woman he went there to see.  So these are the "exact reason"s I expressed my concern about the "laws" in your country.  If you take a swing at me, I will smack you back with these facts and no, these friends of mine aren't the weird "control freaks" or anything else you might want to come up with, so don't go there.  Neither guy plans to return to Belarus but will instead take their search elsewhere based on their experience.  I wasn't present, so I cannot comment further.  'Only passing on the information to men who are considering a visit, that's all.

Real man won`t be afraid of an extra bureaucracy procedure. So it will be kind of filter, it will be even better for our girls.

Although I am all for a filter for BOTH SIDES, not just your "girls", the hypocrisy and absurdity of your statement here is self-evident.  So I'll just leave it alone.

And speaking of "filters" Julia, my post and warning about Belarus is a filter for "our guys", so in a way I am doing the same thing as your government.  If you advocate their actions, how can you bash me for doing the same thing?  You can't, not logically anyway.

Never understood the "real man" term that you and many RW throw around either...mostly because the guys I saw who they called "real men" were nothing but a joke.  That's another story however, so I'll leave it there.  BTW, I did meet some RM who I thought (and still think) were great guys, but somehow the women referred to these men as "normal"....strange....

There`s a way around - to get acquainted with our ladies through not belarusian internet sites and then either tell you got acquainted through internet forum or if you go to visit not at guest visa that you met just here.
 Guys, please, don`t believe everything mass-media tells you about Belarus!

So now you're advocating that a man who comes to your country should LIE about he met a woman??  And you're proclaiming to somehow have been wronged by my post?  Sheesh, you gotta be kidding me.  If you're the type of person who is willing to lie like that, well, 'nuff said.  I wouldn't wanna be around you or anyone else like you who would justify such lies by being two-faced towards the very "laws" you advocated earlier.

It is funny you speak about LIES though because the woman I met in Minsk also talked about this kind of LYING when the subject of filing the I129F came up.  When I refused to lie about anything on our paperwork or anywhere else for that matter it caused problems between us.  "You too nice American man," I was told.  I knew then and there it wasn't gonna work, but in the end that was a good thing.  She had lied about other stuff to me, like having a local boyfriend.  So in the end it all worked out ok.

I did enjoy my trip to Minsk however and again (please READ this time Julia) I would recommend it as a place to visit.  Guys, just be aware of the potential for trouble that you could get yourself into if you go there.

Ok I'm done.  If you come back with something else Julia, I won't be responding to your post.  I've had my say.  If you cannot handle a dissenting opinion, well...that speaks for itself.

Best to all,

Jerry

[Julia G]

  I don`t have anything against you personally av8or1,sorry but it seemed to me you`re kind of offended.
 Thank you for giving the information. Now it all is much more soundly. You`re right - it was really not pleasant for me to read what you said about laws of my country, especially without facts. You know, facts always can have at least 2 explanations and when somebody just says there`s some laws without facts it`s hard to discuss it. And I`m sure you don`t have all information about that cases your mentioned. First guy was asked long and not politely in airport - aren`t there not polite workers at other countries` airports? Second case - why are you sure there were no other reasons to put the guy into detention, there could be plenty of them.
 About lies - personally I won`t have to lie cause I got acquainted to my love not through agency.  I looked at situation from different points, everybody has choice - go or not to go, lie or not to lie. (And what you called hypocritical attitude can be also called as thinking about situation in system way, my words about filter - it`s kind of so called positive thinking, first I thought that it`s bad that there`re more formalities to do, then find some positive in it - it will be kind of filter.) And that what I offered with lies as option is for women of cowardly and lazy men .Of men who are afraid of formal procedures (though sometimes it`s what a woman wants, as you mentioned). If they are not as I said, the women won`t have to lie, to lie is always not pleasant (and for part of people impossible) so it`s better to deal with men who are brave at least to come through extra bureaucracy. That`s why - welcome for such men to Belarus.
 Yes there`s such word combination as real man, we usually say it when think about what qualities we value in men. Often it`s very individual, but there`re common features, all women think that a man shouldn`t be afraid of overcoming the obstacles. Of course RW marry often not those whom they call real men, cause there`s lack of such ones always. And men`s opinion about real men - you know it`s more important to know what women think about it in most cases . And men have their idea of a perfect woman, it`s normal.
 Also I got emotional because I hate when word spoiled is used towards women. Sounds as women are goods, spoiled or not. Maybe  my dear guy has spoiled me . But speaking seriously I would recommend asian countries for seeking not spoiled wives, though there already are some very independent and intelligent women.

[nzboy]

Jerry, if you`re making such anti-advertisement about Belarus and its women then give exact reason or don`t make it. What laws? I, being belarusian and knowing situation from inner side can say that there`s only one law that can be connected with what you said. Not long ago our government noticed that some agencies introduce themselves as marriage ones but really recruit for prostitution and slavery. So with intend to protect women they made stricter laws for registering a marriage agency and getting license for it. I personally saw lots of advertisement of already licensed agencies (but after looking through their men I don`t think the law can completely protect our women from control freaks who seek unspoiled traditional wives, alcohol/drug addicts, abusers).
  Also more formal things should be done before international marriage for couples that got acquainted through agencies, but these formal things are possible to do. Real man won`t be afraid of an extra bureaucracy procedure. So it will be kind of filter, it will be even better for our girls.
 There`s a way around - to get acquainted with our ladies through not belarusian internet sites and then either tell you got acquainted through internet forum or if you go to visit not at guest visa that you met just here.
 Guys, please, don`t believe everything mass-media tells you about Belarus!

Hi Julia could you please tell us from your perspective what are the formal things couples have to do in getting married .What are these new laws etc? I think it is good government cracked down on bogus agencies it seemed many girls were ending up in Britain on student visas to work in brothels ( I guess the British prosts are just to ugly and fat nowa days )

[nzboy]

Uh Julia, I will let this comment pass as an emotional overreaction based upon your bias to your native country.  The only thing I will say about it is don't tell me what to do.

It was clear from my original post that I recommended your country as well as the city of Minsk in general as a good place to visit.  What I left out were the details of the reports I have been getting from friends who have been there since these new "laws" were passed.  I left these events out of my original post because I was trying to be fair to your country, maybe these were isolated events, who knows.  And you accuse me of speaking unfairly about Belarus?  Strange folk you are.  Since you pressed me for information, here it is in all of its ugly detail: one of my friends was harrassed in the airport as he went through the "green" customs line by being asked a bunch of questions about why he was there.  When he answered honestly they continued the questioning for about another half hour he said, finally letting him go after that.  Another friend spent a night in "detention" after being spotted by the local "police" while being out at dinner with the woman he went there to see.  So these are the "exact reason"s I expressed my concern about the "laws" in your country.  If you take a swing at me, I will smack you back with these facts and no, these friends of mine aren't the weird "control freaks" or anything else you might want to come up with, so don't go there.  Neither guy plans to return to Belarus but will instead take their search elsewhere based on their experience.  I wasn't present, so I cannot comment further.  'Only passing on the information to men who are considering a visit, that's all.

Although I am all for a filter for BOTH SIDES, not just your "girls", the hypocrisy and absurdity of your statement here is self-evident.  So I'll just leave it alone.

And speaking of "filters" Julia, my post and warning about Belarus is a filter for "our guys", so in a way I am doing the same thing as your government.  If you advocate their actions, how can you bash me for doing the same thing?  You can't, not logically anyway.

Never understood the "real man" term that you and many RW throw around either...mostly because the guys I saw who they called "real men" were nothing but a joke.  That's another story however, so I'll leave it there.  BTW, I did meet some RM who I thought (and still think) were great guys, but somehow the women referred to these men as "normal"....strange....

So now you're advocating that a man who comes to your country should LIE about he met a woman??  And you're proclaiming to somehow have been wronged by my post?  Sheesh, you gotta be kidding me.  If you're the type of person who is willing to lie like that, well, 'nuff said.  I wouldn't wanna be around you or anyone else like you who would justify such lies by being two-faced towards the very "laws" you advocated earlier.

It is funny you speak about LIES though because the woman I met in Minsk also talked about this kind of LYING when the subject of filing the I129F came up.  When I refused to lie about anything on our paperwork or anywhere else for that matter it caused problems between us.  "You too nice American man," I was told.  I knew then and there it wasn't gonna work, but in the end that was a good thing.  She had lied about other stuff to me, like having a local boyfriend.  So in the end it all worked out ok.

I did enjoy my trip to Minsk however and again (please READ this time Julia) I would recommend it as a place to visit.  Guys, just be aware of the potential for trouble that you could get yourself into if you go there.

Ok I'm done.  If you come back with something else Julia, I won't be responding to your post.  I've had my say.  If you cannot handle a dissenting opinion, well...that speaks for itself.

Best to all,

Jerry

Ive been to Minsk 3 times now Never had any problems at airport .In fact there has never been any one in green lane customs .If any one were going to ask questions it would be passport control .And hardly anyone knows english so I dont see customs being any problem .In Minsk this year principle of university department told me to be careful because turkish student was detained for 4 hours by police She said they wanted money they let him go when friends bought his passport .The real story was ticket lady caught him on tram without ticket and wanted 10 us dollars for fine ! He didnt want to pay so she called police he still wouldnt pay so they locked him up .They told him theyd let him go if he payed them some money (fair enough ) after 4 hours they let him go .(Turkish belligerence) If that had been in NZ he would have been in front of a judge and the fine would be 200 bucks hed have a criminal record and put on the first plane out of here .What Ive seen of belarus police is they deal  with far more sympathy than law  system here So as your friend being singled out with lady seems very strange (Ok if he was soliciting prostitute that is a different story )When I left Minsk it was all hugs and kisses 2 metres from a whole bunch of militzia plenty of english and my poor russian they never even flinched .So Unless you are showing a whole lot of red flags in the wrong place at wrong time you have nothing to fear from police 

[Julia G]

Hi Julia could you please tell us from your perspective what are the formal things couples have to do in getting married .What are these new laws etc? I think it is good government cracked down on bogus agencies it seemed many girls were ending up in Britain on student visas to work in brothels ( I guess the British prosts are just to ugly and fat nowa days )

At this moment I know for sure only that marriage agencies among other things should fill in special documents to control and report info about foreigners coming here and belarusians going abroad (those who got in contact through the agency). I made a research about law concerning marriage itself, but with no results though in newspapers there was published something about extra beareucracy. I will search more, maybe things are even better than I thought - maybe it was even not law, but law project that wasn`t accepted. And I didn`t look deep into it cause my marriage will be not before the january-february 2008.

[BradSTL]

IF I am not mistaken, Belarus has out-lawed dating (international) agencies. anyone know the status on that turn of events?

Agencies have not been outlawed, but foreign-owned agencies must register with state authorities, and there are statutory requirements for indigenously owned agencies.

I recall reading some agencies have been closed for failing to register, or meeting other statutory requirements, but that's about it.

[Julia G]

 I got back here on the site after number of events to say if somebody wants an interpreter in Misnk he`s welcome. We decided to make our lives part with the happyguy (his nick here) for many reasons, but I`ve found a good man and am happy again.
 Now some words about my anti-advertised country and its mentality (I`m into ethnophyschology). Just for justice! We are less emotional then russian women but more stable, less spontaneous and we like planning, we are more materialistic at least we are more sincere about this fact, we spend money more on house than ourselves and we adore nice things that create a happy and comfortable-to-be-in atmosphere in house. We hate violence and this is our well-known trait unlike russians who love bloody criminal chronics and so called prison romantics. We are good at compromises but tend to respect ourselves and not tolerate ones who abuse or drink unlike russian women. We are hard-working unlike russians. We are closer to ukranian women in mentality, but they are more physical and we are spiritual, ukranian women are more sexy and opinionated. Ahh also we are laughed at as "potatoes-lovers"

[Daveman]

I got back here on the site after number of events to say if somebody wants an interpreter in Misnk he`s welcome. We decided to make our lives part with the happyguy (his nick here) for many reasons, but I`ve found a good man and am happy again.
 Now some words about my anti-advertised country and its mentality (I`m into ethnophyschology). Just for justice! We are less emotional then russian women but more stable, less spontaneous and we like planning, we are more materialistic at least we are more sincere about this fact, we spend money more on house than ourselves and we adore nice things that create a happy and comfortable-to-be-in atmosphere in house. We hate violence and this is our well-known trait unlike russians who love bloody criminal chronics and so called prison romantics. We are good at compromises but tend to respect ourselves and not tolerate ones who abuse or drink unlike russian women. We are hard-working unlike russians. We are closer to ukranian women in mentality, but they are more physical and we are spiritual, ukranian women are more sexy and opinionated. Ahh also we are laughed at as "potatoes-lovers"

Reeeeeow!  I can hear claws scratching across 15 time zones...  Not that you intended to pick a cat fight, but man oh man, that's a great start...  popcorn and video recorder ready!

Seriously, if I ever needed to search again, Belarus would be on my radar as well.  As would many of the more western East countries.

[TwoBitBandit]

Now some words about my anti-advertised country and its mentality (I`m into ethnophyschology). Just for justice! We are less emotional then russian women but more stable, less spontaneous and we like planning, we are more materialistic at least we are more sincere about this fact, we spend money more on house than ourselves and we adore nice things that create a happy and comfortable-to-be-in atmosphere in house. We hate violence and this is our well-known trait unlike russians who love bloody criminal chronics and so called prison romantics. We are good at compromises but tend to respect ourselves and not tolerate ones who abuse or drink unlike russian women. We are hard-working unlike russians. We are closer to ukranian women in mentality, but they are more physical and we are spiritual, ukranian women are more sexy and opinionated. Ahh also we are laughed at as "potatoes-lovers"

I think that only Russians, Ukranians and Belaroussians can detect the subtle differences between them.  It reminds me of those all those Canadian backpackers I met in Europe who sew Canadian flags on their backpacks.  "We're not Americans, we're CANADIANS!"  Their cultures, mannerisms and accents are so identical those of Americans that nobody can tell the difference.

[GoodOlBoy]

.....We are less emotional then russian women but more stable, less spontaneous and we like planning, we are more materialistic at least we are more sincere about this fact, we spend money more on house than ourselves and we adore nice things that create a happy and comfortable-to-be-in atmosphere in house. We hate violence and this is our well-known trait unlike russians who love bloody criminal chronics and so called prison romantics. We are good at compromises but tend to respect ourselves and not tolerate ones who abuse or drink unlike russian women. We are hard-working unlike russians.....

Yeah, I can't wait until my wife gets home from work and reads this garbage.  :burnedup:

The fur will fly!  





GOB

[Julia G]

Yeah, I can't wait until my wife gets home from work and reads this garbage. 

The fur will fly!

I`m not afraid! People are different within one mentality. For example belarusians are tolerant in general (for example we don`t kill foreign students unlike russians), but particular people can be untolerant like me (I`m not gonna to kill but express opinions that can be uncomfortable for some people). Also you can ask your wife what word 'sterva' means in russian context. Unlikely she will tell you all the truth, so that`s word for defining an egoistic and narcissistic women who use men. Translation in english is bitch but it`s not exact. There is an original "sterva"  subculture which is very popular in Russia. There are NO belarusians among the authors, they are russian. Even if they appear in future, numbers won`t be able to be compared. I would recommend men to purchase "школа стервы" books especially by Шацкая, translate couple of pages to understand this mysterious russian soul better and be more conscious in their choice. Russia is the biggest in FSU that`s why it gives the biggest number of fiancees, so I really have chance to fight intellectually with many people here, because their wives are russian. But one can do nothing against facts.
 Also there are many books of russian females on the topic - how to catch a millionaire. I really don`t like russian mentality, because they as menatality are people who want to get everything for free (so called haliava) and don`t want to work for it. There are exceptions (I`m sure guys with good wives got these exceptions) but it`s in blood already.
 If to talk about 'subtle' differences in accent I can say we have our own language, not accent. Russia wanted to destroy our culture and almost suceeded but still there are patriots who speak belarusian. And this language has more common words with western european languages though punctuation and many grammar features are common with Russia. We were european country and they were asian barbarians until Peter the 1st. And if to remember state of our education in medieval times and compare with russians ... I think all i wrote is enough for good intellectual fight already. If not oil and other resources ...where would be Russia?

[Doll]

Yeah, I can't wait until my wife gets home from work and reads this garbage.

Which is 100% garbage 

[Ade]

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I thought you were supposed to be an intelligent educated (medical?) student, and yet you generalize and stereotype like few others I've read before. Please, enough of this silliness. 

[Doll]

I would recommend men to purchase "школа стервы" books especially by Шацкая, translate couple of pages to understand this mysterious russian soul better

I take is as a compliment 
Just thinking- my father is a Belorussian and I am Russian  (in my heart) so does it makes me double стерва or double angel?