Russian Women Grope

[stepinnit]

Hi all,

I have just been banned from the RWG for posting this little satire on their 'community.'
The original post (by one of their more pedantic mods) is on RWG in their 'Cafe and Chat' section. Alas, I cannot now access is as they have blocked my IP.


I hope my humble effort will afford you all some amusement. By all means move it to a more appropriate forum.

This is the Russian Women Grope

Ask and answer questions about finding smokinhotkovas twenty years younger than you, desperate or stupid enough to leave their family, friends, job and cosy apartment to move to a ramshackle clapboard shack in the Midwest, where they will be able to apply for divorce after they get their K1 marriage visa and take you to the cleaners, travelling, sex tourist tips, living with a second-rate, 50-year-old American loser, and more.

"More" in this case means "more regarding America and American culture".
"American" can be more accurately replaced by "Burgeoning Imperialist Empire".

Aside from that, the endless self-congratulatory posts and smug self-importance contained in every thread should be crystal clear.

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After deleting every post that contained any indication of an original thought or any criticism of our mantra that America is the greatest nation on earth and that Russian women were placed on this earth to cater to our domestic and sexual needs, let me make a few other things clear:
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This is not an open forum. It is a closed forum available for the average cheap, second-rate American mutha to read.

This is not a platform for intelligent or original debate. For those wishing to discuss serious subjects in an intelligent and open-minded way, I recommend:

russianwomendiscussion.com/
russian-detective.com/
datingtalk.info/

For fans of US Imperialism, arrogance and political corruption, I direct you to the following:
whitehouse.org/

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In January 2006 the ownership of this message board changed hands. At that time the open-minded moderators who were nominated by the international members of the board, were replaced by a group of partisan American Bigots specially chosen by the owners of the board for their ignorance, arrogance and hypocrisy. That is us.

As fully-paid up bigots we are an elite club. We follow an ever-changing set of rules which we make up as we go along. We are all united in the belief that America is the greatest nation on earth and that Russian women were placed on this earth to cater to our domestic and sexual needs.

We are simply second-rate muthas, who, having been rejected by every decent woman in America, maintain the fantasy that our dollars can buy us all the sex and domestic service we are unable to obtain at home. To that end, we strive to exclude non-Americans from this board and uphold the owners' policy of screwing as much money out of you dumb suckers as possible by maintaining the fantasy that Russian women are desperate to come to America.
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Each section of this board is handled at the discretion of the appropriate bigot. There are plenty of double standards, and each moderator has their own unique way of expressing their particular bias and hypocrisy.

One thing that we have agreed upon and hoped for is to moderate immoderately. That, after all, is the American way.

On this board there has been and always will be serious and intelligent interjections, sensible debate leading to original thought, and humourous discussion that strays from the pro-American mantra that our dollars can buy us all the sex and domestic service we are unable to obtain at home.

Personally, I don't understand serious and intelligent interjections. I often find them difficult to understand, particularly if they use words with more than three syllables or contain proper nouns.

I get very irritated by the occasional exchange between intelligent Britons employing sarcasm and irony and using antithetical allusions to obscure literary sources to baffle and confuse me. Let's stick to simple Bushisms and American neologisms on an American message board folks!

I draw the line when a non-American board member insults an American who is not here to defend themselves, in particular the President, a US sex tourist, or an ageing grandpa married to some smokinhotkova half his age.

As long as the threads can be steered back to the mantra that America is the greatest nation on earth and that Russian women were placed on this earth to cater to our domestic and sexual needs, all else has been ok with me. In moderation, of course. We're all right-wing rethuglicans here!

When the board becomes so clogged with serious and intelligent interjections that the number of new American second-rate muthas asking banal questions markedly dwindles this site loses its value.

In this situation, something must be and will be done.
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If you feel that this post is directed to you, it is. Please reread the following:

You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is critical of America or Americans, original, thought-provoking, open-minded, humourous, satirical, accurate, unbiased, or upholds a person's freedom of speech. Remember, the President has torn up the constitution!

I understand the desire to be honest, sincere, or attempt serious, intelligent debate with your new found online friends (provided they are American). Feel free to do all this in the form of personal hate mail, abusive phone calls, meetings at your local AL ANON or drug rehab center, or hand written blackmail letters.

If you wish to retain your fifteen minutes of fame write your own trip report, or plaigirise one from one of the other sites listed above.

If you want to find a decent, Russian woman who is not after your dollars, leave and leave now.
If not, stay.

 

[KenC]

What a trollish post!  Let's see, you have no respect for Russian women, American men or the forums on which they post their thoughts. No wonder you were banned.  Why don't you take your trouble making azz somewhere else?
KenC

[jb]

Well,,,, you do try one's patience, don't you?

Let's see here,,, you say you got cross-threaded with the moderator in the Cafe section, if memory serves that would be Boston Bubba.  IIRC, Bubba's sense of humor runs deep, but does not cross certain lines.  As I further recall, Bubba is also a conservative with an acute sense of patriotism and an immense love of country.  I'm further guessing this was not your first post expressing a somewhat European style left leaning anti-American sentiment.  When called on it, you probably laughed it off as tongue-in-cheek, then a few posts later berated your American hosts for not having a sense of humor.   Bubba doesn't usually react so decisively to a single post, rather his ire will build over time.  I suspect this episode was probably a *last straw* sort of thing after having received a few subtle hints laid on you in other threads.

I have likewise long wondered why it is that a certain class of Brits so love to bite the hand which feeds and protects them.

Since you posted this diatribe you call a satire here for our review and comment, let me be among the first to tell you that I think it sux.  If you posted such drivel here and I had the power to ban, you'd be history before you have a chance to pick the snot out of that long, arrogant, snooty British nose of yours.

You certainly selected the correct screen name, for you really have been "stepinnit*.

[stepinnit]

You rethuglican Yanks really don't get it do you?

It is precisely because I DO respect Russian women and abhore their abuse and mistreatment by ageing American lotharios and sex tourists that I posted that satire on RWG's childish and self-obessed 'rules.'

Nor, contrary to your misconceptions, do I dislike Americans or America. Indeed, I have the highest possible regard for your Constitution and the democratic institutions of your founding fathers. What I do detest is the arrogance and imperialism of people like you and the President you elected to rule over you, which attitudes are reflected in your bigoted and hypocritical fellow rethuglicans on RWG.

Thankfully, not ALL Americans think as you do, indeed, I am reliably informed that 50% of them think the exact opposite and do appreciate that there is a world outside their borders and still uphold the principles of free speech and freedom which the present incumbent of the White House has done so much to undermine in your country and wherever his imperialistic followers set jackboot.

I won't even dignify your asinine remark about 'biting the hand that feeds me' with a reply, other than to say that your arrogance is matched only by your ignorance.

By all means 'ban me.' Frankly, I would consider it a compliment coming from anyone remotely like you.

[Bruce]

I have to take a contrary view from JB and Ken C on this one if the banning was based on one post.  Here is why - the guy wrote a satirical post.  Sure it hits American men and RW hard, but we know the truth and we can take it.  It was done in jest and really made more fun of the other board than American men or RW.   It takes a pretty bright guy to come up with that sort of drivel.  Thats the kind of guy who has the wits about him to learn the ropes and hopefully help out his fellow Westerner. 

Now, BB is a really bright guy, so I suspect Stepininit was banned for continuous and or excessive  hostile, political or disruptive posts.  Perhaps Stepininit has no redeeming qualities.  I say give the guy a chance. 

So Stepininit - I for one welcome you aboard and hope you can contribute in a positive fashion.   

[Jooky]

This is the 'pedantic mod' who posted the thread that drew 'Step''s ridiculous satire. If you feel like reading the original, it's on RWG.

Those of you that know me (hi guys!) know that I am anything but pedantic and I am against the banning of members in practially all cases.

Just to clear up yet another completely misinformed antagonistic 'Step' post, this clown was not banned for the above post. He was banned for being a deliberate and admitted troll.

He admitted to being a humorist with no interest in Russian women aside from researching the mail order bride industry for one of his satires. Whether this is true or not, I don't know, but after constantly misrepresenting himself, antagonizing other members and in general behaving in the same manner that he criticizes others for he was banned.

The administration had contemplated doing so a while ago but was waiting for approval from the moderators (some of us are travelling).

Step, it's you who 'doesn't get it'.

The moderators at RWG do not at all condone mistreatment of Russian women. Neither are we all Americans and most of us do not proclaim our political affilations at all.

The good folk at the RWD know who we are far better than you do. I doubt you'll get much sympathy here.

It is YOU that I recall hurling insults at Russian women (such as IDid and only_i, who left the board entirely because of your behavior towards her) and showed disrespect by to Russian women by posting a woman's profile and copies of your letters which mocked her responses to you. I'm not talking about the scam woman either.

The decision to ban you was unanimous. Your manner of posting here in this thread should be a good indicator as to why. ;-)

And again, the banning had absolutely NOTHING to do with that post. Banning was already being carried out as our prolific poster 'Step' was writing that silly mess. ;-)

[Bruce]

Jooky, thanks for clearing up the situation.  Sorry to hear the guy is but another troll.  Too bad, he did give me a chuckle or two.

[Michelangelo]

WOW-- RWG sounds like a mess and a big waste of time.  I'm glad I've never been there 

[stepinnit]

WOW-- RWG sounds like a mess and a big waste of time.  I'm glad I've never been there 

Very wise...you're not missing much!

Thanks for the vote of confidence, Bruce. You are clearly one of the 50% of Americans whose brain has not either been abducted by aliens or reduced to mush by Fox News and several years of Bushwashing.

You're dead right. I was taking the piss out of the more pedantic and anally retentive leading lights on RWG, not the intelligent and genuine guys on there -- of which there are a few; some are even American! You are also correct in your deduction that I long ago saw through the bullsh1t about RW, whether it is propogated by agencies or viagra-addicted grandpas who are convinced that a wallet full of greenbacks and a K1 Visa will lure 25-year-old smokinhotkovas into their beds. They may do, if the grandpa is rich enough and Sexy Olga is desperate enough. But 9 times out of ten Olga will simply scam them (which they deserve) or file abuse charges once she's landed in the land of plenty (which they deserve even more), before climbing into bed with a slightly younger second-rate mutha.

Whether by intelligence, or luck, I struck gold in my own particular search so I am out of the loop and have nothing worthwhile to contribute here other than the advice of 'CAVEAT EMPTOR.' That applies to both Foreign men and RW. IME this entire 'scene' is a mostly very dirty barrel filled with life's rejects and losers. It takes a good deal of determination, courage, patience, and above all, commonsense, to find the very few nuggets that still remain amidst the dross. But that is NOT what most guys want to hear. They want to believe the fantasies they're sold which sites like RWG do far too little to explode in my view. Hence my final post on there. If only 1 guy in 100 gets it (assuming they don't delete it) it was worth while writing and posting it.

I'd just like to correct a couple of inaccuracies made by 'Jooky' - if I corrected them all I'd be here all day


'only-i' left RWG because of tossers like him criticising her admittedly off topic posts. As it happens I am in DAILY contact with her and know a great deal more about her in real life than 'Jooky' does. We were, and remain the best of friends. Only_i that is, not 'Jooky.'


I have no idea why 'idid' left but I doubt that it was because of anything I posted. If I recall, several of RWG's leading lights gave her a hard time, something which is fairly routine on there if you are not one of the 'chosen few.'

Finally, I have never 'insulted' RW, or any woman come to that. Don't take my word for it ask the women on RWG. What I have 'insulted' are the attitudes of many members on that site who seem to imagine that RW were made to serve their sexual and domestic needs in exchange for a free ride to the land of plenty. Naturally, that sticks in Jooky's craw. The truth hurts. Ask the ladies on Antidate what they think of the majority of men on RWG. Better still READ what they say about the men on RWG.

FWIW, my Russian lady will not go near RWG (or this board either). And she is not alone.
Perhaps some of you might want to consider why that is?

Step out...



Best wishes,

[stepinnit]

Addendum for 'Jooky'.
only_i has just asked me to tell you that she left RWG  because of the attitude of one 'JPJ' towards her as well as certain other male members. I use the words 'male members' advisedly.

[JPjr]

If JPJ refers JPjr, then it is wrong. I never coped a negative attitude towards Yulia, though I did tesae her a bit, but only in the cafe. In the cafe, your and her silly and flirty posts were looked on with humour and tolerence. You two filled so many Threads in the other areas of discussion with this same silly posts till some decided it was enough and began complaining. That is when you began the campaign of smearing and complaining, RWG as an entity with many heads. This does not even go into all the crap you posted as the knobbly kneed Stepinit. Everyone knows RWG has become the shill for EC and many can live with it because there is still much of value there and many nonbiased, experienced posters. I have taken a very objective view of RWG, but will admit to loseing my composure slightly, to some really rude and crude posters. 

[David1963]

Everyone knows RWG has become the shill for EC and many can live with it because there is still much of value there and many nonbiased, experienced posters.

I always here people say this but I never see anyone give specific examples.   ???

[JPjr]

I like you David, so I will reply to say. I am not going back and quote all the posts that have come into question about favoritism. You have shown your share of opinion for some over others. No problem their, but you have been rude and crude on several occasions, which I find unnecessary from a mod. Just my opinion and like yours must be tolerated, even if disagreed with. The home page was brought into discussion a few days back and it clearly staes, EC is the owner of RWG. EC admin. will not let someone go against the better interest of the Business.

[Admin]

Hey Folks,

I know there are a lot of cross-board members - and I sincerely appreciate the fact that some who are members of RWG also choose to visit and post here on occasion. But I really don't think it serves RWD to be used as an outlet for any complaints over how things are run at RWG.

We are working hard here at RWD to be the very best resource available anywhere - and I think we met that objective a while back and are now in the process of adding to the utility and value we offer our members. It is distracting and counter-productive to focus attention on RWG.

Let's get back to dealing with the theme of the board. OK?

Thanks,

- Dan

[Jooky]

Ok I admit I do you know your full situation with only_i, only what is reported to me.

I do feel you were rude and insulting to IDid and others on more than one occassion.

My first impression of you came when you posted some woman's profile that you were mocking in the scams section. I found that disrepectul when you admitted you had no real idea if she was indeed a scammer or not.

I find you to be a complete hypocrite.

many members on that site who seem to imagine that RW were made to serve their sexual and domestic needs in exchange for a free ride to the land of plenty. Naturally, that sticks in Jooky's craw

I really have no idea where you form your opinion of me or other moderators. The only discussion I recall having with you is over my blank letters to a scammer.

You're attempting to insult me in front of an audience that for the most part knows me, knows my story, and knows that I am nothing like what you describe. In brief, you are full of *snip*.

I don't know what 'many members' who fit that mold you are talking about. You either have an active delusional imagination or extremely poor reading comprehension or both.

I do know what the AntiDate members think, and so what? Have you read AntiDate? Do you know the women who post there? Your friend Yulka was banned from there for similar reasons to those that got you banned from the RWG.

Sorry Dan. I don't mean to disrupt things here at all. Just defending myself against false accusations.

That's all!

[KenC]

Hey Folks,

I know there are a lot of cross-board members - and I sincerely appreciate the fact that some who are members of RWG also choose to visit and post here on occasion. But I really don't think it serves RWD to be used as an outlet for any complaints over how things are run at RWG.

We are working hard here at RWD to be the very best resource available anywhere - and I think we met that objective a while back and are now in the process of adding to the utility and value we offer our members. It is distracting and counter-productive to focus attention on RWG.

Let's get back to dealing with the theme of the board. OK?
Thanks,

- Dan

But Dan,
The underlying theme of this thread is this troll's displeasure with the other forum.  Don't you see that?  And believe me, this guy is nothing but a TROLL.  Be a quick study and get him outta here fast because there is nothing to be gained by allowing him to infect this good forum like he did the other.
KenC

[Shadow]

Welcome stepinnit. I see that you have finally gotten that ban RWG has been discussing about for at least a month. If you decide to try the same kind of writing here I doubt that you will last that long.

I agree with Dan that we are doing our best to keep RWD on top as quality board, which is done by making sure the posters are valuable. As you see the tolerance for trolls is much lowr here, and it will remain that way.
Once again you are invited to contribute, in a useful way.

[Louie]

Dan, I agree with Ken on this one, IMO there is constructive criticism, and in this case it just seems like arrogant, ignorant viciousness, attacking people and there beliefs just for the sake of attacking!

[Admin]

But Dan,
The underlying theme of this thread is this trolls displeasure with the other forum.  Don't you see that?  And believe me, this guy is nothing but a TROLL.  Be a quick study and get him outta here fast because there is nothing to be gained by allowing him to infect this good forum like her did the other.
KenC

One of the hard lessons I have learned, and was recently reinforced by Patrick (former owner of GoodWife and Planet-Love), is that board members are sort of like roaming herds who migrate around from board to board over time. Sometimes, events at one board will stimulate a mass migration - as happened with RWG and which benefitted RWD on a couple of occasions.

Because I am not part of, or privy to, the management/moderation actions at RWG - and because I am loathe to ban people, unless there is almost overwhelming reason to do so - I am disinclined to ban step at this time. I am not entirely happy with his post here - but like Bruce, I find his satirical wit to have some humor and merit - and until it becomes disruptive, he will be allowed to post here.

I *may* choose to place step in Moderated status - so that I have the chance to see the posts before they appear on the live board. Still considering this option.

Thanks for the comments.

- Dan

[LatinSwede]

I love the midwest, and it will be a very long time beofre I hit the big 50 mark.  I can't speak for other AM's, but I've had a great deal of my life in Europe, combined with a culturally mixed background.  As a result, I ended up liking and loving European women since puberty.  Eastern Europe was like a lucky accident.  Ms Hometown USA just seemed to bland for me.

[Stirlitz]

While I have nothing personal against the subject, I am personally relieved to know that RWG will be now much cleaner and up to the point rather than continuous blah-blah. I hope Stepinerrsomething does not turn RWD into something like this.

[BC]

While I have nothing personal against the subject, I am personally relieved to know that RWG will be now much cleaner and up to the point rather than continuous blah-blah. I hope Stepinerrsomething does not turn RWD into something like this.

Based on past experiences, chances of that happening here are quite nill. It's not so much the the playingfield but the attitude of the players that really makes the game.  As you can see in the responses upthread there is quite a team spirit here.

[jb]

You rethuglican Yanks really don't get it do you?

Yes, Limey, we do kinda get it.

Nor, contrary to your misconceptions, do I dislike Americans or America. Indeed, I have the highest possible regard for your Constitution and the democratic institutions of your founding fathers. What I do detest is the arrogance and imperialism of people like you and the President you elected to rule over you, which attitudes are reflected in your bigoted and hypocritical fellow rethuglicans on RWG.

This is strange coming from a citizen of the most imperialistic nations on the planet.  BTW, American Presidents, unlike your British aristocracy, do not RULE us, they serve at our pleasure.  We can always boot the bastards out after 2, 4, or 6 years, you should try that with your queen and see how far it goes.

Thankfully, not ALL Americans think as you do, indeed, I am reliably informed that 50% of them think the exact opposite and do appreciate that there is a world outside their borders and still uphold the principles of free speech and freedom which the present incumbent of the White House has done so much to undermine in your country and wherever his imperialistic followers set jackboot.

Unfortunately for you, most Americans do think the same as I do because we know that there is little outside our borders that isn't emulative.  Regardless of which party we may vote for, we are all Americans first, democrats or republicans second. 

I do hope Dan bans you, you aren't worth our time or the virtual ink it takes to refute your drivel.

[Manny]

you should try that with your queen and see how far it goes.

Only difference there being that the Queen is popular, Dubya does not seem to be! Do you really want to turn this thread into a UK-US flame JB? I doubt it.

Incidentally, good day to everyone - first post here, for those who dont know me I am another semi migrant from RWG having a nose around here.

My only comment on Stepinnit is when you read some of his stuff, he can be witty, articulate and insightful. He can also be a little acidic and does not suffer fools gladly. I am sure the mods here will treat him fairly.

[jb]

Do you really want to turn this thread into a UK-US flame JB?

Go back and read the OP again, stepinnit started the thread with a vicious slap at Americans.  Just responding in kind.

He can also be a little acidic and does not suffer fools gladly.

That's a knife that cuts both ways.  This OP indicates that stepinnit automatically assumes he dealing with fools.  It is one of the most trollish posts I've seen in years, couple that with the information provided by Jooky about why he was banned on the RWG, for trollish behavior, and you might have some answers.

Manchester, welcome to the board.  There is a wealth of information available from this membership for anyone just getting started on this quest, however most of us do not view this board as a playground for the disaffected.  If a person asks reasonable, honest, and straight forward questions, most likely he'll be answered with serious and valuable information.  If a person of experience has something to offer to the collective wisdom of the board, he will be applauded.  Act the part of a troll, and be squashed.  The ROEs are spelled out with rather more words, but basically, them's the rules.