Has anybody used RussianScamCheck?

[JustPlaneCrazy]

Has anyone used this service?

They deliver one rose to your woman at the address you supply and take a digital picture if it is the real deal or report back to you that the address was bogus.

http://russianscamcheck.org/

[BillyB]

Has anyone used this service?

They deliver one rose to your woman at the address you supply and take a digital picture if it is the real deal or report back to you that the address was bogus.

http://russianscamcheck.org/

A few companies do that service of a photo and a flower. Russianscamcheck is new name to me and the address and phone number is out of Seattle WA. My guess is that they are legit and not going to run away with your money.

Damien from that company recently posted on this thread and seems to be a reasonable guy:
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=1645.0

[Rvrwind]

I have the Russian Scamcheck seal on my site & am cooperating with them & have done some work for Damien. I can honestly say that he strikes me as a straight up guy & delivers what he claims.
Although the service is new, they have many connections throughout the CIS to be able to serve their clients well. Damien is always open to suggestions & advice & will help you in any way he can.
I would say use them, you won't go wrong. JMHO

[andrewfi]

What's the difference 'tween them and any other expensive flower delivery service? After all, they use flower delivery services to deliver the flowers and take the pics - yes?

[Lada]

They deliver one rose to your woman at the address you supply and take a digital picture if it is the real deal or report back to you that the address was bogus.

http://russianscamcheck.org/

Don't you see how a woman might find your lack of trust in her insulting? Why not send something along with the roses, like candy or a little stuffed animal? Just tell her you are sending the flowers and wait to see if she thanks you for whatever else you sent. Not A 100% guarantee that she will mention both things, but it's a hell of a lot better than having her pic taken when she is not expecting it.

[JustPlaneCrazy]

Don't you see how a woman might find your lack of trust in her insulting? Why not send something along with the roses, like candy or a little stuffed animal? Just tell her you are sending the flowers and wait to see if she thanks you for whatever else you sent. Not A 100% guarantee that she will mention both things, but it's a hell of a lot better than having her pic taken when she is not expecting it.

The delivery company ask's permission to take the photo and they also act like a normal flower delivery company.  Your woman has no idea it is a check up on her so no one is hurt and you find out what you need to know.

[PeeWee]

The delivery company ask's permission to take the photo and they also act like a normal flower delivery company.  Your woman has no idea it is a check up on her so no one is hurt and you find out what you need to know.

that photo might be important. Seems like several of the RW that I have met in person strangely appeared older than they did in their various photos. There must be a point in their lives where they feel the need to invest money in quality photos and then ride the wave, so to speak, for the next 10  years.

Peewee

[andrewfi]

The delivery company ask's permission to take the photo and they also act like a normal flower delivery company.  Your woman has no idea it is a check up on her so no one is hurt and you find out what you need to know.

That's because they ARE a flower delivery company. Hence my point upthread. Any woman in an agency will know what the delivery of a single flower and taking a picture means. How stupid do you guys think these women are?

[Turboguy]

As WC Fields said "You can fool some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time".  For the most part I don't think that will fool to many of them.  Andrewfin, it is probably not a question of how stupid we think they are, it is more how stupid we can be sometimes.  Guess I am showing my age.  There are probably only a handful of people reading this that have any idea who WC Fields was.

[JustPlaneCrazy]

That's because they ARE a flower delivery company. Hence my point upthread. Any woman in an agency will know what the delivery of a single flower and taking a picture means. How stupid do you guys think these women are?

The women I correspond with belong to no agency....

[andrewfi]

Ok, apart from the difficulty that you must have in knowing that of a woman that you have not met, the point still stands.

It is not normal to take pictures of women when delivering flowers. I guess the truly low-wattage types might not think something odd about Boris the flower deliverer asking for ID before handing over a SINGLE flower, but when he asks to take her picture holding THE FLOWER, well, even the 15 watters are going to think something is odd, eh?

BTW, a really nice single rose is going to cost perhaps $2 at retail, a picture costs nothing and one would probably figure on $6 for the delivery, $10 for outer suburb deliveries. This is a really nice trick to get scared guys to up the ante.

[JustPlaneCrazy]

Ok, apart from the difficulty that you must have in knowing that of a woman that you have not met, the point still stands.

It is not normal to take pictures of women when delivering flowers. I guess the truly low-wattage types might not think something odd about Boris the flower deliverer asking for ID before handing over a SINGLE flower, but when he asks to take her picture holding THE FLOWER, well, even the 15 watters are going to think something is odd, eh?

What can it hurt?   You can always tell your woman that you requested the picture because you wanted to see her get her flower because you care so much for her.....

It can be easily overcome with your woman with a little finesse...

[PeeWee]

For the last 5 years I have not thought about the flower and photo. I would think that one flower might seem a bit cheap to her but a nice boquet of roses might serve your purpose better. That seems normal to me. If she has gotten flowers from foreign men before this may have already happened to her. If not then this is new to her and she may not make the connection. I'd give it a try. Short of actually flying there and you know how to do that, JPC, it is but a small investment that just may save you big.

The current interest of mine has sent me photos. She in every photo appears not to be the same woman. So I ask her how long ago each was taken and then asked her to send me the most recent. Two from New Years party. We are going to met up in about three weeks. Then I will know for sure.

I'd just go there. If she lives in the sticks then if nothing else you get to fly on another Tu154 or 134...or if  you are a lucky bastard one of your flights might be on an IL-62. Hell that would be worth it to me. I don't know what  your worry is you found a great one last time...just cause she pulled up short in the end she almost made it here. I still think that if you meet a lady via Elena's Models that you will have a decent shot of her being straight up.

BS, yo, Toddfather, I don't get to fly on any Russian aircraft this trip. BA all the way, Baby! First a 744 and then a Bus of some sort but I am flying business class so that will make the trip to Prague much more enjoyable.

Peewee

[andrewfi]

JPC ~ You might be right, but I doubt it. Sending a single flower is hardly displaying 'finesse' now is it?

You will look like a cheapskate for sending just one bloom for a start - that will go down like a bucket of cold vomit. How will she explain that to her friends! All she will be able to do is throw the thing away as soon as the florist leaves and never mention it to her friends, except in the context of 'how cheap are these foreign guys?'
Chances are that these women that you do not know yet are involved in the MOB business and will know the ropes. Things tend not to happen in isolation.
A woman who can think will think it odd that a man would send a single flower from thousands of miles away and yet insist upon a photograph.

If you must go down this path then at least be a proper man and send a respectable bouquet of flowers, give the woman a reason to WANT to have her picture taken (as if that guarantees anything anyway!)

But yes, she might be nieve and dim. OTOH the nievete could well be coming from the paranoid sender.

[JustPlaneCrazy]

JPC ~ You might be right, but I doubt it. Sending a single flower is hardly displaying 'finesse' now is it?

(as if that guarantees anything anyway!)

Then I'll send her a dozen......no, nothing has a guarantee but true scammers will never give there correct address, that is the point of the entire thing.

I must say, you sure are a negative individual........

[BillyB]

Crazy,

Stick with sending an odd number amount of roses. An even number is not good.

[JustPlaneCrazy]

Crazy,

Stick with sending an odd number amount of roses. An even number is not good.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that...thanks!

[PeeWee]

Then I'll send her a dozen......no, nothing has a guarantee but true scammers will never give there correct address, that is the point of the entire thing.

I must say, you sure are a negative individual........

LOL! I do agree with Andrew...seems he just said in more detail and yet better than what I also said prior. Have you talked to her on the phone yet? Or in an email? Ask her what her favorite flower is and color. My friend love yellow roses. Yellow is apparently the color of unfaithfulness to a RW but this one does not care about that she just wants the flower. I have sent 11 on the 9th of each month. Cost with delivery to her little village is $75.00 total. No photo included but it would seem to me that for the first time a photo can be explained.

I do agree with you, Andrew does seem like a negative lad, I get the same sense about him that you do, yet sometimes what he says does make good sense. Maybe it's just his delivery?

Peewee

[Turboguy]

To some extent wouldn't just sending her flowers prove something even without the photo.  At least you would find out if her address is real.

[andrewfi]

If you have not met there is no such thing as a 'genuine' address now is there?

If you consider being accurate and realistic as negative then so be it. Just bear in mind I already have what you want and it works. But if you mess things up, then you mess them up.

You are being scammed, or at least heavily over charged, by a firm because you are paranoid.
Assuming that your penfriend exists you were about to appear to be a real cheapskate.

Sorry for being so negative as to point these things out. At least you are now planning to modify and imporve your tactics in one regard. Had I joined the boys in the cheap seats, you would have been happy to have been given positive reinforcement and almost certainly unhappy to have lost your penfriend.

[Rvrwind]

BTW, a really nice single rose is going to cost perhaps $2 at retail

Gee, I just hate to contradict Andrew LMAO
Seriously though, the days of a good $2.00 rose are long gone. the average here in Tver for top quality, that is one that won't be dead by next mornin' is 120-150 rouble, 5-7 bucks. A 2 buck rose can be had but it'll  be dead by mornin'!!!

[JustPlaneCrazy]

If you have not met there is no such thing as a 'genuine' address now is there?

If you consider being accurate and realistic as negative then so be it. Just bear in mind I already have what you want and it works. But if you mess things up, then you mess them up.

You are being scammed, or at least heavily over charged, by a firm because you are paranoid.
Assuming that your penfriend exists you were about to appear to be a real cheapskate.

Sorry for being so negative as to point these things out. At least you are now planning to modify and imporve your tactics in one regard. Had I joined the boys in the cheap seats, you would have been happy to have been given positive reinforcement and almost certainly unhappy to have lost your penfriend.

I bow to your greatness, all seeing and all knowing

[Manny]

I bow to your greatness, all seeing and all knowing

I used to argue with Andrew on another forum often (the other forum has to remain nameless on here I gather, but it has a G in it! ) about his delivery style, but after you have stopped laughing, you have to admit he is quite correct! (or later on you will be forced to admit in hindsight that he was)

Or to quote a fellow poster here "Right on the money" 

[PeeWee]

I bow to your greatness, all seeing and all knowing

IPod, you know how to do this. You have as much if not more experience at this than many do. Post your profile on Elena's. Sit back and let the letters come in. Pick the ones that appeal to you and write to them. Sort out the gold diggers. And then go back to the Promised Land. I was thinking that if this up coming meeting in Prague does not bear fruit that I might try one of those tours next spring. Just to do it. 

The other thing I was thinkig aobut is that since I have 3 days in Prague without her being there I might just look check out a few of those Czech ladies or head up to London for a few days to see what England has to offer. I've been to London enough times to know that many of those pastey white British ladies have a lot to offer a pud like me.

Peewee

[andrewfi]

Gee, I just hate to contradict Andrew LMAO
Seriously though, the days of a good $2.00 rose are long gone. the average here in Tver for top quality, that is one that won't be dead by next mornin' is 120-150 rouble, 5-7 bucks. A 2 buck rose can be had but it'll  be dead by mornin'!!!

Sorry, I just went with local prices, prices must be lower here. That said, it is hard to make a single rose cost $35, evenat the prices you gave.

Before paying silly money to rip-off services, try something like Interflora:
http://www.interflora.ee/Product.aspx?id=14602
These guys are not cheap but they have a reputation.