Hello from New Jersey

[2tallbill]

You ARE out of touch, Billy

mamba.ru is in 9th place in Russia

It's got facebook and classmates listed as a dating site.

[rw_recruiter]

Where does one even find FSU women in the NYC area?  I certainly don't see many at the bars, concerts and music festivals I go to.

Try Brooklyn? Any of the rooftop bars in Manhattan? Pick any random woman taking pics in the city and there is a 20% percent chance she is Russian. Been that way for the last ten years.

[msmob]

If you tell someone they are wrong, make sure you don't supply a ranking list that proves them right.

BillyB

1/ I am in Russia .. I really DO know what I'm talking about .. ...   When you register on mamba.ru - does one's profile appear on the other sites ? .......

2/ you specifically said mamba.ru sas no.1 - it isn't ..  - 9th place is not the most popular - no matter what 'spin' you try to put on it ..

3/ If 2,3.4 were owned by the same group then SIX ( Odnoklassniki / OK.ru ) would be in your list  ...  Mail.ru which is 70 percent Kremlin and 30 percent Oligarch owned seem to have fingers in mamba.ru and OK.ru - at the very least ...  But if you are on OK.ru - which *I* think is more of a social media site - your profile is defo NOT on mamba.ru ))

You might like to apply your own sage advice ? ...

[BillyB]

I really DO know what I'm talking about .. ... 

No you don't. You provided a list and failed to look at the sites and failed to understand how it works with Mamba. The sites that are owned by Mamba.ru are identical except for the name. Mail.ru doesn't own a dating site, they use mamba's site on their website for people to use calling it a different name. If you signed up on one site, your profile appears on every site and you can use the same login and password on any of Mamba's site. They have more sites that aren't listed in your top 10.

[msmob]

No you don't. You provided a list and failed to look at the sites and failed to understand how it works with Mamba. The sites that are owned by Mamba.ru are identical except for the name. Mail.ru doesn't own a dating site, they use mamba's site on their website for people to use calling it a different name. If you signed up on one site, your profile appears on every site and you can use the same login and password on any of Mamba's site. They have more sites that aren't listed in your top 10.

Best you re-read your own words - before further compounding your daftness, BillyB

Mamba.ru -is but one site of a VERY large Kremlin controlled group of media companies ...

Once again - YOU - recommended mamba.ru as the 'most popular'- it is NOT anywhere near the most popular site -as my RU based info showed.

It's been waning for at least 3  years - according to single ladies who had / have accounts and don't bother to log in or read mail announcing 'interest'..

 

My experience is more than 3 years old, but when you logged in to mamba.ru - it did NOT  allow you access to other websites owned by the mamba group - you had to register .  That certainly applies to mail.ru, ok.ru today

Best you ask questions... 

[BillyB]

Moby, I can't help you if you don't help yourself. You think Mamba is ranked low on the top ten list when they are the parent company of the 2,3,4 sites and possibly the #1.


GM is a parent company but sales are far behind Chevrolet. Same cars and truck with a different name tag. Lower sales make GM less popular than Chevrolet? When sales are tallied, credit goes to GM. Based on what I'm reading from your list, credit goes to Mamba after tallying up all the users of their site.

[msmob]

Moby, I can't help you if you don't help yourself.

Once again - YOU told us it mamba.ru was the most popular site - it isn't ...  you learnt from someone who spends half his time in Russia, understands Russian FAR better than you do and you still think you 'know' the situation better ? )))

Then you suggested that a login from mamba.ru meant your profile appeared on other sites...   in the mail.ru group - I pointed out two specific instances of your being wrong

Having failed, you now try to apply an analogy between dating sites and cars ? !  


OK, in times gone by Ford owned Jaguar and the Mondeo platform formed the basis for the Jag, too - sharing many components ...  Sadly, owning a Mondeo would not permit me to buy a Jag for the same price....

I think you are bored...

[BillyB]

Once again - YOU told us it mamba.ru was the most popular site - it isn't

Take a look at the most popular auto makers below. Toyota includes Lexus, etc.., Volkswagon includes Audi, and Porsche, etc.., GM includes Chevy, Buick, and a whole slug of foreign automakers. Your list splits the different entities of a company apart and fail to say some of those sites are identical except for the name. You have not listed one company larger than Mamba. Count the users if you want.


http://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&q=biggest+car+company+in+the+world&oq=biggest+car+company+in+the+world&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l3j0i22i30k1.1275442.1282661.0.1282898.36.34.2.0.0.0.160.2636.26j8.34.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.36.2656...0i131k1j0i67k1j0i131i67k1j0i13k1.AjJLe_4M24U

[2tallbill]

That's interested I know I have a lot to learn about their culture and this entire process before I even begin pursing a potential partner.  Where does one even find FSU women in the NYC area?  I certainly don't see many at the bars, concerts and music festivals I go to.

If you met a cute gal from Ireland or Canada or Spain you wouldn't say
it would be cool to go out with you but I've got to learn more about your
culture first. There is no better or more effective cultural learning event
than romance.

So my advice is to learn as you go.

My wife Angel Eyes is not here today, so I risked death and went on Mamba.
I searched for a girl from 25-29 years old from New Jersey. They had a ton
of them but many aren't FSUW and probably have dubious reasons for being
on the site.

Having said that there are a lot of cute FSUW on the site that currently live
in NJ. If you do join Mamba, get a new email address and then make a new
FB page first then join Mamba and use FB to authenticate yourself. Then
make yourself a VIP member so you can do decent searches, then search
by Russian or Ukrainian language skills in NJ.

It would take many pages of explanation to tell you why to do everything the
way I just said and I am watching mini-me who is 2 years old and in the bath
tub.

It looks like Mamba has been slipping.


Mila 29 speaks Russian and Ukrainian and probably real



Alicia Wood looking for a man 31 - 80 years old speaks ONLY English Probably a scam

[danieln_2000]

Hey everyone!  My name is Greg.  I am 29 years old and I am an accountant living in New Jersey.  I love to travel and have always been much more attracted to foreign women.  It is kind of hard to meet any through traditional avenues.  I am brand new to all of this so any advice would definitely be appreciated!

Welcome Greg. You have found a good place. There are a number of people on this site who were very helpful answer questions for my first trip to the FSU. I have since made a number of trips. My suggestion is when you travel, have another purpose than just to meet women. Have it be something like (1) explore a new city while getting to know a (2) local woman. This way if that woman isn't right for you, or the several women you met isn't right for you, you still get something that makes your trip worthwhile. I have found that once you find a woman that you like (and she likes you), making plans to see each other a second time is very valuable. If she knows you are serious, you will probably get more attention from her.

[msmob]

I want to add one more thing about Mamba and their many other sites under different names they own Moby didn't know about. This could apply to other dating sites and marriage agencies owned by other companies too. Many of these sites reward people who are active a place at the front of the line. Some sites get a reputation for having lots of scammers, gold diggers, green card girls, pro daters, and hookers when in reality, most of the women there are sincere, marriage minded girls. Girls who have jobs, kids, and other responsibilities in life do not have the time to burn lots of hours on the internet. They don't have the luxury of writing us men at 1 AM-4 AM their time when us western men are awake and are more likely to communicate. Insincere women with little responsibilities have lots of time to write men and lure them it so with them being more active and online, they get to the front of the line. You will see a high percentage of the bad girls on the first few pages of profiles while many of the good girls get shuffled back to the middle end of the line. Good girls can get to the front of the line when they are online but that isn't often.

Moby keeps making specific points / questions your 'info' and


1/  mamba.ru is simply NOT as popular as you suggested - and I have been stating this for c.3 years

2/ mamba and other related sites are owned by a mega media group that is largely owned by the Kremlin and Oligarch mates of the Kremlin....

[BillyB]

1/  mamba.ru is simply NOT as popular as you suggested - and I have been stating this for c.3 years

Mamba has over 23 million members and it's just past midnight Moscow time and there are over 18,400 women online right now, not including the men.


You have opportunity to do your own research but you are too afraid to be wrong. Come back when you find a dating site in the FSU that's as big and as active as Mamba,

[msmob]

Mamba has over 23 million members

NO ..it hasn't ..Where  DO you get this guff ?

 

[BillyB]

NO ..it hasn't ..Where  DO you get this guff ?

Where did you get your guff? Afraid to Google "Mamba 23 million users"? Since you're too lazy, I'll help you out. You seem to be in denial of Mamba and their copy cat sites under different names give it a huge database of users. They've had up to a million users online at the same time during it's peak hours. They have millions of users using the site everyday. First link says Mamba is the largest dating site in the world. Quit debating about something you don't know anything about and go investigate it for yourself.


http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-dating-app-android/


http://heavy.com/tech/2014/10/top-best-dating-apps-iphone-android-free-paid/


http://vk.com/page-303429_53581938


http://download.cnet.com/Mamba-Dating-meet-new-people-date-chat/3000-12941_4-75230234.html


http://www.visahunter.com/articles/the-best-online-dating-sites-in-russia/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamba_(website)

[msmob]

Where did you get your guff? Afraid to Google

I don't NEED to 'Google' .. you conveniently 'forgot' your lesson of only a week ago, when I posted the rankings in Russia and mamba.ru was...

NINTH

You then proceeded to pint out other 'member' sites - and forgot OK.ru - which is more of a Facebook for old classmates

Mamba is but part of a mega media group  in Russia that owns TV stns, internet mail social media sites AND dating sites.

MY info was from Russia, in Russian and I KEEP telling members that Russian ladies regard mamba.ru as a poor site to find a long term relationship .... but you carry on telling someone who lives half the year IN Russia, that  he knows less than you do ))

[BillyB]

I don't NEED to 'Google' .. you conveniently 'forgot' your lesson of only a week ago, when I posted the rankings in Russia and mamba.ru was...

NINTH

You forgot Mamba also owned the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th spots which are identical to the Mamba site, just with a different name. They also have many spots outside the top 10. Add them together and they are by far the number 1 site. On the form for the K-1, my government asked how did we find each other. My wife used Love.mail.ru and I used Singles.ru which is not in the top ten of your list. That's when I learned these sites are Mamba but under different names. 

MY info was from Russia, in Russian and I KEEP telling members that Russian ladies regard mamba.ru as a poor site to find a long term relationship .... but you carry on telling someone who lives half the year IN Russia, that  he knows less than you do ))

I've talked to women on that site that say there are a sex seeking men there. I'm not disputing you on that. Our own Aloe said she had more guys looking for sex than serious relationships but in the end, what is said and what is happening are two different stories. TENS of thousands and sometimes HUNDREDS of thousands of FSU women are online at any given time. It's a very active and large dating site. They still have faith a decent guy can be found there. My wife found me there.

[msmob]

You forgot Mamba also owned the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th spots which are identical to the Mamba site, just with a different name. They also have many spots outside the top 10. Add them together and they are by far the number 1 site. On the form for the K-1, my government asked how did we find each other. My wife used Love.mail.ru and I used Singles.ru which is not in the top ten of your list. That's when I learned these sites are Mamba but under different names. 

Sighs...

Still 'spinning like a top' rather than simply admitting .... "Moby, spotted my howler"

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22108.msg466932#msg466932


BillyB .. said "Mamba.ru is a great place to find women." 

But as my link proves .. it isn't and if you bothered to translate - you'd have read:

 "During 2016, this portal occupied the most popular place in the rankings by the number of visitors. Although, it is worth acknowledging the fact that fewer people are using Mamba - their are quite a lot  more modern and free sites.

Therefore, their popularity is steadily declining."





1/ The mega media organisation that owns many of the sites you mention DOES not mean registering for one site means you'll appear on another.

2/ You mention a specific site, that I keep telling the board - based on local ladies comments- that it's popularity is waning

I've talked to women on that site that say there are a sex seeking men there. I'm not disputing you on that. Our own Aloe said she had more guys looking for sex than serious relationships but in the end, what is said and what is happening are two different stories. TENS of thousands and sometimes HUNDREDS of thousands of FSU women are online at any given time. It's a very active and large dating site. They still have faith a decent guy can be found there. My wife found me there.

NO.. she didn't - she found you on another site ... the dating part of mail.ru... which is listed higher than mamba.ru

[BillyB]

"During 2016, this portal occupied the most popular place in the rankings by the number of visitors. Although, it is worth acknowledging the fact that fewer people are using Mamba - their are quite a lot  more modern and free sites.

Therefore, their popularity is steadily declining."

There are ups and downs with any company and always challengers rising but Mamba quadrupled their members since 2006. It continues to enjoy the most popular place in the rankings.

1/ The mega media organisation that owns many of the sites you mention DOES not mean registering for one site means you'll appear on another.

 Why state something that is false when it only takes a few minutes to investigate it for yourself? Sign up for singles.ru and you'll immediately find yourself on mamba and love.mail.ru and other sister sites as a member that. Your profile will be listed even though you didn't sign up on those sister sites. You can log into any of those sites with the same user name and password. It's hard to debate you when you make stuff up instead of using facts that are easily obtained.

[msmob]

There are ups and downs with any company and always challengers rising but Mamba quadrupled their members since 2006. It continues to enjoy the most popular place in the rankings.

Why repeat nonsense ?

1/ YOU made a rod for your own back by SPECIFICALLY mentioning mamba.ru... when I pointed out it was one the wane 'all' sites run by the main holding company became 'mamba' ... 

 Why state something that is false when it only takes a few minutes to investigate it for yourself? Sign up for singles.ru and you'll immediately find yourself on mamba and love.mail.ru and other sister sites as a member that. Your profile will be listed even though you didn't sign up on those sister sites. You can log into any of those sites with the same user name and password. It's hard to debate you when you make stuff up instead of using facts that are easily obtained.

'False' 

2/ Unlike you - I don't feel the need to go on dating sites when married - but I am a member of mail.ru , vk.com and ok.ru and my logins DO NOT grant me access to the dating sites ... I have to register ..... 

3 /You state that you have been married more than 5 years and I was using sites such as singles.ru and mamba.ru more recently ...  three years ago ..and I COULD see the same images, but was taken to a new registration if the user was on another site within the group ...

4/ My opinion on mamba.ru is based on local ladies recent experience and my partner's up to three years ago ...   However, it appears to backed up by the 9th place ranking and the review .... "newer... better sites .."

5/ The only possible discrepancy could be that the ladies I know - personally  - as opposed to being 'interviewed' for your 'research' online - while bored - is that I am talking - face to face  - to women in their thirties and forties as opposed to kids my daughters' age...