Hello everyone

[rw_recruiter]

I just stumbled across this alternate forum and decided to register. I am leaving for Odessa, Ukraine in a little over a week to visit a beautiful young woman I met on a dating site. I have begin packing and buying gifts and am excited about my first trip overseas. Should be an adventure.

[BillyB]

Welcome to the forum. There is a trip report section here if you want to write about your adventures.

[rw_recruiter]

Thanks Billy. I may do so when I arrive. I will be there some time.

[msmob]

rw, Welcome!-  forgive me  - but THIS forum is more about actual dating / visiting the FSU...    it is not an 'alternative' ... The place you mention is now run to promote a certain political viewpoint...by guys who don't even GO to Russia / Ukraine...

I'm seriously worried that you are going to be used as a gravy train in Odesa

Stay in touch - as if you feel you are being taken for  ride... you probably are..(

[rw_recruiter]

rw, Welcome!-  forgive me  - but THIS forum is more about actual dating / visiting the FSU...    it is not an 'alternative' ... The place you mention is now run to promote a certain political viewpoint...by guys who don't even GO to Russia / Ukraine...

Thanks. Yes, I started to get that impression about the other place as well. Not much talk about visiting or dating there. More politics.

It can't hurt to visit and see a new place at the very worst. I will take pictures for those who are too afraid to fly over   

[BillyB]

It can't hurt to visit and see a new place at the very worst.

It's hard to enjoy a trip after you get used. Have a backup plan. Easy to meet and date women. Do lots of reading here before you go. We give good advice how to get dates and we'll save what's left of your money after dealing with AnastasiaDate. Remember the ole saying "A fool and his money will soon part". They look for fools. Don't be a fool.

[rw_recruiter]

How is some 21 year old bimbo going to use me? Good grief man, you make it seem like I am from Idaho or something. If it does not work I walk my happy ass into the nearest club or bar and talk a good line of s##t.

[msmob]

How is some 21 year old bimbo going to use me? Good grief man, you make it seem like I am from Idaho or something. If it does not work I walk my happy ass into the nearest club or bar and talk a good line of shit.

Rw does this 'bimbo' speak English ?   

AD mules get taken to the 'best restaurants', clubs, etc and from interpreter to ( possibly even your bimbo ) it's all about kickbacks

[rw_recruiter]

Her written English is halfway decent. How much can a good restaurant run me? Cannot be more than a nice place in NYC or Miami, right?

[msmob]

Her written English is halfway decent. How much can a good restaurant run me? Cannot be more than a nice place in NYC or Miami, right?

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You are being defensive, now ...  !  Just bear in mind those who have gone before you ... We are suggesting you'll be asked to pay over the odds for all related  services ((

We are on your side ...we have seen it ALL before ..We aren't on your case

[rw_recruiter]

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You are being defensive, now ...  !  Just bear in mind those who have gone before you ... We are suggesting you'll be asked to pay over the odds for all related  services ((

Not at all man.

I am just saying that I would take a woman out here and spend the same money if not more. I am not going to take the poor girl to Mickey Dees when I arrive. I can imagine a nice restaurant is a drop in the bucket when it comes to this game.

[msmob]

Not at all man.

I am just saying that I would take a woman out here and spend the same money if not more. I am not going to take the poor girl to Mickey Dees when I arrive. I can imagine a nice restaurant is a drop in the bucket when it comes to this game.

Understood ...  how to put it ..  there'll be nicer restaurant that don't give kickbacks

[wallm]

How is some 21 year old bimbo going to use me? Good grief man, you make it seem like I am from Idaho or something. If it does not work I walk my happy ass into the nearest club or bar and talk a good line of shit.

Hey, I resent that. What is wrong with Idaho? I was in Boise just yesterday. Nice place and people.
This has a train wreck written all over it. Do write a trip report. Somehow I doubt there will be one.
Good luck.

[mhr7]

How is some 21 year old bimbo going to use me? Good grief man, you make it seem like I am from Idaho or something. If it does not work I walk my happy ass into the nearest club or bar and talk a good line of s##t.

Odessa+ADate+26 year age difference = one of the biggest wastes of money and time on the planet. She already got you to spend money to communicate with her online at a ridiculous price, consider yourself used.

Honestly, listen to people here. Odessa is the WORST place you could go to find a wife. Thousands of men have tried, failed and felt like idiots after a visit there. You are nothing but easy money to them.

[rw_recruiter]

Hey, I resent that. What is wrong with Idaho? I was in Boise just yesterday. Nice place and people.

Idaho is beautiful. But as you say, nice people unlike the scammer cesspools of Miami and NYC. That was my point. Easier to scam a farmer from Idaho than a used car salesman from NY, da?

Honestly, listen to people here. Odessa is the WORST place you could go to find a wife. Thousands of men have tried, failed and felt like idiots after a visit there. You are nothing but easy money to them.

What would you suggest I do? My ticket is bought. Apartments rented. I leave in 1 week, it's on.

[Nightwish]

Idaho is beautiful. But as you say, nice people unlike the scammer cesspools of Miami and NYC. That was my point. Easier to scam a farmer from Idaho than a used car salesman from NY, da?

What would you suggest I do? My ticket is bought. Apartments rented. I leave in 1 week, it's on.

make a quick assessment if she is the real deal.. if not (which we all suspect here, but we can be wrong).. get on Tinder or mamba and hook up with locals, so easy to get people interested in a date, and don't make a big deal about it.. your there. why not date the locals.. have a tea with them, if interest arises you keep dating them..

one thing I would avoid, and especially in Odessa, is trying to picking up women in bars.
Its the town and the type of girls that frequent the places, not really the serious kind I would say, or they are few and far apart.. hard to separate them from the "not so serious".. that is my experience.. now I didn't look for young bimbos when I was there, so of course the scene will vary depending on what you look for..

everything else its like dating at home, except more women will be interested in having a coffee or tea with you just for the sake of it.. and because you are a foreigner of course..

[rw_recruiter]

Good info Nightwish, and yes, it is like dating anywhere else in the world. Just a slight language barrier is all.

[Boethius]

Except for the fact that beautiful 21 year olds don't date men more than twice their age (unless they're gold diggers).

[Nightwish]

You have obviously been out of the dating loop for some time.

actually.. no rw
you have been sold a dream.. the dream that that site is feeding men on a daily basis and making millions in the process..
and western men fall for it over and over again

Sure there are a few..there is always a few, always an exception to the rule, and that is about as many as there are golf balls on the moon.
your twice her age, your a grown man, she is still a child in many senses.. she hasn't lived, has no experience, and if you tell yourself something else, you are delusional and have bought in to the dream sold by the site..  but we have many been there.. and we have many walked away with a bruised ego..

[rw_recruiter]

Guys, I date Brazilians in their twenties locally. Just because someone else cannot pull it off does not mean I can't. Yes, it's not kissy face puppy love, those days are over, but it is not an issue to date a younger woman. Sorry to break the news.

[Boethius]

And yet, you are looking abroad, in a dirt poor country.

[Nightwish]

you date russians locally, and not just one.. many... now you date young hot brazilians locally.. and yet you sign up on Anastasia scamsite - pays for it, and its not cheap there..  and looks for a woman abroad.. knowing all the issues with language barriers and visa issues..

now.. what is wrong with this picture...anyone? 

[rw_recruiter]

Hahahahhhahaha, where have you been? You think these girls live in the favelas? They can date wealthy men if they want. You are out of touch. They fly all over the world on vacations these days.

[Boethius]

And yet, you are going to Ukraine, a dirt poor country, to find a woman.  You're not sticking to one of the many hot Brazilians who you date all the time.

[rw_recruiter]

I am tired of the Brazilians and their attitudes. Time for a change is all. No harm in switching it up.