Agency Girls-Entrepreneurs or Scammers?

[JayH]

Thanks for sharing.

On agency girls,  they can actually make 500 to 1500 usd.or more.it's not a bad gig, most of the time their local boyfriends dont mind.

  That's just in general, don't take that to reflect on the girl you are seeing,  there can be a million variables.

Curious what's her regular job?


  I know quite a few women still working for the local affiliate agencies of Adate.Nothings changed for a long long  time.

On boyfriends and how not much changes ---  some years ago I arranged for another forum member here to meet with a girl I knew as he had his long term plan in a city you know well !! demolished in the first few days there. They had a common interest in dogs -- she had(& has) 2 large malamutes and I thought she may be able to help him if he needed it.( I was not trying to pair him up-- it was more to make a contact if he needed it -- and to explain the agency/website business to him first hand)
She and most of her friends were on the notorious sites at that time -- and quite happy to arrange meeting with "foreign "guys.
At every stage she had a local boyfriend -in every sense of the word.  A few years ago she married and more recently had a baby.
She is happily married as far as I can tell --that is of the very happy type marriage.

The punchline --she is on dating sites today !! 

[Trenchcoat]

On boyfriends and how not much changes ---  some years ago I arranged for another forum member here to meet with a girl I knew as he had his long term plan in a city you know well !! demolished in the first few days there. They had a common interest in dogs -- she had(& has) 2 large malamutes and I thought she may be able to help him if he needed it.( I was not trying to pair him up-- it was more to make a contact if he needed it -- and to explain the agency/website business to him first hand)
She and most of her friends were on the notorious sites at that time -- and quite happy to arrange meeting with "foreign "guys.
At every stage she had a local boyfriend -in every sense of the word.  A few years ago she married and more recently had a baby.
She is happily married as far as I can tell --that is of the very happy type marriage.

The punchline --she is on dating sites today !!

Nasty b*tch, no conscience, she's getting in the way of guys that want to find what she has and is wasting their chances in life. Very selfish if you ask me. Sure there may be the earning a living aspect but seeing as she is now married her man should be doing that. No excuse for it really.

[Boethius]

What about all the men who waste girls' time?  That's the majority. Most never make a trip.

She is in a poor country and needs to make a living.

[JayH]

What about all the men who waste girls' time?  That's the majority. Most never make a trip.

She is in a poor country and needs to make a living.

The rationale is that men volunteer to pay . While that is true enough  --it falls a long way short of the whole story !

Another point -girls often have no idea what it is costing a guy to be on site-- and use it's functions. Some agencies- go to a lot of trouble to avoid paying girls with all sorts of bs stories being told to them.In particular--they do not want girls knowing what guys are paying.
That is particularly so in girls early days of signing up. Agencies can arrange photos-- and then "charge" a girl at inflated price so she has to "work" off the debt.  Going back a few years now-agencies even supplied the computers for girls  who could not afford their own.
Even when there are clear cut agreements in place to pay-- girls can still have a problem getting paid - and particularly the agreed amounts. Girls who are good earners are incentified to stay and or do more time.Sites have prizes from basics to desired iphones and even cars.
The use of a girls profile on other sites often happens -- and she may will be unaware of if it .
There is lots more to all of this -- needless to say TC remains clueless.

[BillyB]

She is in a poor country and needs to make a living.

There are girls in the FSU that are willing to deceive men by pretending they are considering the man for marriage wasting his time dating him when in fact the girls are just doing their job. There are men who promise women marriage deceiving them just so it's easier to take them to bed and keep them on the side as one of their mistresses. Neither one of those groups of people are marriage material. There are women with integrity that prefer to go to bed a little hungrier and wear cheaper clothes over deceiving people to get ahead in life. If a guy wants a wife, that is who he should be looking for.

[Jumper]

There are those that intentionally play a game of it to profit and do deceive. Basically emotional prostitution.

There are also  a lot more variables than I'll go into,
 but let's just say there are any number of women  being paid well by the agency, that have never,and likely will never,  meet a foreign man.
 That's not because they are deceiving anyone, it's not that they wouldn't meet a guy who is writing or chatting with them.they would.
It's the odds.

Very few understand who  the bulk of men contacting these women really are ,nor is it a subject that matters to a guy who is sincerely looking.

All he needs to know is the agencies are a rough go for him and to steer clear unless he wants in the matrix


The bulk of men writing and chatting with agency girls  are :
1.already married and it's just fun and games, no intention to meet anyone.
2. Middle Eastern, or other  cultures,  that find it interesting to chat,although zero plan to meet or marry a rw as it isn't generally accepted in their culture.just a fun day dream.

3.other keyboard romeos that have a million reasons to play on the net, but never plan to meet in real life.

So the great disservice most of the girls that are paid to work do, is provide entertainment for basically 90 percent men who pay the agency for exactly that .

If you are in the roughly 10 percent that might be slightly serious, understand that the agency business model isn't profiting much from you, they are set up to , but you simply are no longer the main income,and havnt been for a decade.

[BillyB]

There are also  a lot more variables than I'll go into,
 but let's just say there are any number of women  being paid well by the agency, that have never,and likely will never,  meet a foreign man.
 That's not because they are deceiving anyone, it's not that they wouldn't meet a guy who is writing or chatting with them.they would.
It's the odds.

Some agency owner here once said 20% of the women get 80% of all the attention. The good looking girls get tons of men writing them. Almost all guys who walk into an agency looking for dates almost always pick the same beautiful women.

[CaptB]

What Billy says is true.......in my experience. Only a handful of agency women get all of the attention from men. I went to Russia with a friend the first time. He had been to Russia 3 times....this was his 4th. I was 49.......he was 39. I told him he was at a disadvantage. He said "why"? I said....."because you have never been married before". "you get to make all of the normal mistakes in a relationship.....and....ad culture and language differences into the mix. He had chosen a girl....and did decided to date "others".....but it was apparent that he had made his choice. "I" thought she was the wrong choice....so did his interpreter....and the employees of the agency. I counted at least three other women who were beautiful, intelligent.....and most important.....really liked "him". They were great gals .......with great personalities.....and very attractive.
I gave him my opinion of his choice. But he was determined. They married.....were divorced a few years later. He has never shown an interest in trying again. Too bad.....he is a really great guy. As a "terror of this forum" once said to me......many years ago......this endeavor (FSUW & WM).....is the "graduate course".....not the bachelors degree...in relationships. Seeking a partner in your own culture is hard enough......adding a foreign culture & language.....does not make it easier.


I made the same mistake as my friend. I dated a woman for two years....in Tver Russia. But eventually......something felt wrong. I broke it off. I was heartbroken in the beginning.....but within a month I knew I had made the right decision. When I decided to move on.....I was elated.....and hopefully. Not an easy thing to do....but thank god I had the courage to realize......something was missing in our relationship.


I wish my friend.....would give it another shot.....he is a really great guy. Sometimes that "divorce experience" can really help certain folks....the next time around. I learned from my first marriage........I saw things more clearly......the next time around.


Capt B

[msmob]

The Agency Dating Model is dead - what with all the direct dating sites ..Ladies have their own internet connections

[2tallbill]

As a "terror of this forum" once said to me......many years ago......this endeavor (FSUW & WM).....is the "graduate course".....not the bachelors degree...in relationships. Seeking a partner in your own culture is hard enough......adding a foreign culture & language.....does not make it easier.

Capt B

Somebody, I forget who said "FSUW aren't for entry level daters" and it's very true.
So I added it to my signature. The guys who've had no success in the west are going
to have trouble in the East, conversely the guys with decent social skills can make it
anywhere.

I have a nephew who has autism. He is very high functioning and has a masters degree.
My sister set him up a profile and wanted him to look for a Russian bride like I did. She
even wrote a couple of letters for him. He was furious when he found out and he complained
to me so I called her and I told her it would be less risky for him to try to find the boiling
temperature for nitroglycerin. He could set up a pot on the stove, with nitroglycerin in it
and put a cooking thermometer in the pot and slowing add heat. Pretty simple really
when you think about it. There is a chance that it will explode and kill everyone, so
tell him to be careful.

He's had little or no practical dating and FSUW are definitely deep end of the pool
type girls, the boys with floaty's on their arms shouldn't swim at that end of the
pool.

Learn to swim without floaties before spending much time at the deep end of the pool.


Since at the time he was at the university, I told him to join the local international
club instead and see if he could strike something up with any of the girls.

[jone]

'Floaties' has a completely different meaning in Southern California pools.

[Anotherkiwi]

'Floaties' has a completely different meaning in Southern California pools.

Is that what you call dead bodies?

[jone]

No.  It has to do with infants swimming without diapers. 

[Anotherkiwi]

No.  It has to do with infants swimming without diapers.

I'm sorry I asked!