How much to read into what a girl writes?

[Trenchcoat]

So I was wondering how far should you read into what a girl writes? How far did you guys that are successful read into what a girl wrote? I don't mean requests for money here or anything obvious as a red flag but more subtle everyday stuff that she writes. For example the last girl I was with told me fairly early on in our messages that, 'she has a degree in Business Management but works in retail (shop assistant) which is not nice for her' I can imagine, but should I take this as she is after finding a guy to take her to country where her opportunities are better (i.e use a guy as a mule to get her to where her ambition wants her to be) and hence should discard her at this point or is it of little consequence? Just general discussion. She did also state she wanted children in one of her messages but they no doubt know many men want that.

[wallm]

 In ukraine many of them work in jobs that are unrelated to their education. I had met with one who went to medical school but chose to work as Nanny for a wealthy family as the money was much higher than a physician would make. I didnt think she was telling me this in the hopes of going to the US. You have to learn to not be suspicious of everything.

[BillyB]

I don't read women's profiles before writing them. Takes too much time. I wrote them based off their photo. If they engaged in correspondence with me, I would go back and read their profile and have trust what they are writing me is true until they prove it isn't. Actions speak louder than words but won't get to see action until a visit to them. After letters, I'd move onto phone calls and call often. If a woman didn't give me her number, or sound thrilled by the sound of my voice then I assume I don't mean much to her.


While writing women overseas, I continued to date heavily at home. Some people thought that was morally wrong so I was labelled immoral. People make their own rules up when it comes to dating. Some think I'm cheating, others think I'm smart. Some date one at a time and others multiple people at a time. One reason I don't get upset if a woman I was communicating with or dating turns out to be the wrong girl is because there are other girls I can get together with and not miss a beat. If you focus on one woman and invest a lot of time on her without being in an exclusive relationship, you're to blame for wasting time on a person who is not committed to you.

[Nightwish]

So I was wondering how far should you read into what a girl writes? How far did you guys that are successful read into what a girl wrote? I don't mean requests for money here or anything obvious as a red flag but more subtle everyday stuff that she writes. For example the last girl I was with told me fairly early on in our messages that, 'she has a degree in Business Management but works in retail (shop assistant) which is not nice for her' I can imagine, but should I take this as she is after finding a guy to take her to country where her opportunities are better (i.e use a guy as a mule to get her to where her ambition wants her to be) and hence should discard her at this point or is it of little consequence? Just general discussion. She did also state she wanted children in one of her messages but they no doubt know many men want that.

for f*cks sake Trench, just STOP this.. you will never be successful with this mindset.

Go to Philippines and get yourself a little housemaid/sexslave and you will be happy, thats what you want out of this anyway..  and she will be happy just getting out of that *dirt poor country* and she will give you boom boom whenever you want and never complain.

She is also very subservient and will look to her husband for everything.. but in these countries you are now looking, just do the rest of mankind a favor and stop looking there..

[BdHvA]

What a woman expresses in words depends entirely on her education and that of the recipient.

Yes there might be clues, but I doubt that the English level of females in the former Soviet Union will provide many recipients with clear insights. Off course if some are too lazy to read the actual profiles and depend on images, you get what you buy.

This fixation with a having a woman dependent on a man (mule) is an invitation to a disaster.
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[Jumper]

TC, I never  put much into any given single comment.
You have to remember English is a second language and they often use a word incorrectly which can change the whole meaning, or use some software or website translation of a phrase or a word which is often not what they intended as well.
So ask for clarification if something caught your attention, or bring up the subject in a general way and see where the conversation leads to learn how she feels.
  Any given single comment , means little to nothing so early on..

A pattern of comments is an indication  of a personality trait ,maturity, or life outlook.


As far as wanting children,  there are   rw that do not,  but they would be the the minority.a small minority.

 The cultural pressure for a woman having a husband and child is tremendous there still,even with changing times this mentality is still very persistent.

 I see it even in rw that have been here in the west many years, what and how  they speak to their children,etc. It's not over the top ,but it is a strong lingering thing with many.That's not a bad thing, although personally I feel it's pushed to early.

My mil was asking about grandkids before we had ordered dinner on our first date. Ok I'm exaggerating as she wasn't there, but if she had been, she would have wanted to ask *when and how many*
 
I'm sure after 3 years of marriage she had almost given up.lol

[Jumper]

I'll add that a basic understanding of Russian can often really help you understand what she meant,(in english)instead of what she said.

Known phrases, phrasing, common words used to imply something etc.
A lot of that simply doesn't translate well and someone doing a *literal * word for word translation will have some very common mistakes that if you are familiar you can catch what was meant.
  That works both ways of course snd I'd strongly advise you to stick with those with a decent grasp of English.

[msmob]

I don't read women's profiles before writing them.

Hmm, shouldn't that be DIDN'T read  ... 

[Jumper]

Hmm, shouldn't that be DIDN'T read  ...

Lol you know billy still writes some just to sort out good ones for the single guys  here.
Philanthropy that  would seem a tad hard to explain to his misses that was away, but I'm actually more interested in whether any if the guys actually wrote any of those women he posted, or the contacts you posted.

[msmob]

Lol you know billy still writes some just to sort out good ones for the single guys  here.

SURE, he does ... .     and I believe him ..... 

I'm actually more interested in whether any if the guys actually wrote any of those women he posted, or the contacts you posted.

I promised that any contact from guys to the two ladies I posted were lookin' would remain in confidence ! ))





 

[BillyB]

Hmm, shouldn't that be DIDN'T read  ...

Let me give you an example. If I say "I didn't believe in God", people may interpret that was my view in the past but today I changed my views. If I say "I don't believe in God", people will interpret that is my view today and it could've been the same view in the past.


I don't read women's profiles before writing them is my policy today as it hasn't changed and was so when I located decent girls for guys here to write to.


Mr. Grammar police officer, I know two languages, English and Bad English so when I'm writing English, I'm never wrong.

I'm actually more interested in whether any if the guys actually wrote any of those women he posted, or the contacts you posted.

I'm wondering if anybody wrote the transvestites and hermaphrodites before they got deleted due to them being offensive to women? They exist in the FSU and are on dating sites looking for love.

[ChickMagnet]

Hey Trench,

You should doubt, probably disbelieve most of you what read from the responses. Or, you could be like Ronald Reagan and trust, but verify. I'm serious. How do you know you're not talking to some fat dude? My first two contacts, I found the letters verbatim on a scam website. I knew it was a hoax and decided to mess with the person a while. The fact is, you don't know if anything is true or not. But, you must use that knowledge to come to a conclusion later. First, don't send money. My wife today never once asked for money and after 12 years of marriage she still doesn't ask. She trusts me to give to her and the timing is irrelevant.

Are you using a translation service or is she writing to you directly. One poster already stated that if she speaks some English she may be using wrong words and conveying wrong meanings due to her lack of English. My wife still does that today in the U.S. If I had this to do over again, although I would have to use an age range from 40-50.

1. I will find a reputable service for finding an FSUW. I'm not up to date on those now. Find one that pools all the smaller ones.

2. Begin to write and feel it out.
3. Use Viber to talk with her on the phone. If translation is an issue, pay up hire someone to help and call her.

3. Visit. Yes visit. I visited my wife less than 3 months after writing her, we talked on the phone several times via an interpreter, I arrived 7 Jan and proposed to her before I left. We got married in July in her town. So visiting her in person is the main goal. But have a backup plan in case she doesn't show.

P.S. I would be remiss in saying the original OWW (me) is still married and he had everyone 13 years ago against him. I knew I was right then and all these years later I'm still right. So don't anyone let strong opinions against your drive curtail your endeavor. Make it happen!

[2tallbill]

So I was wondering how far should you read into what a girl writes? How far did you guys that are successful read into what a girl wrote? I don't mean requests for money here or anything obvious as a red flag but more subtle everyday stuff that she writes. For example the last girl I was with told me fairly early on in our messages that, 'she has a degree in Business Management but works in retail (shop assistant) which is not nice for her' I can imagine, but should I take this as she is after finding a guy to take her to country where her opportunities are better (i.e use a guy as a mule to get her to where her ambition wants her to be) and hence should discard her at this point or is it of little consequence? Just general discussion. She did also state she wanted children in one of her messages but they no doubt know many men want that.

I am not trying to insult you, but you are pretty bad at figuring out what the
native male English members of the forum write, much less what a less than
fluent Slavic young woman writes.

I believe I am pretty good at decoding what the girls said in their letters, but
moving on to Skype enabled me to also read their faces every time they said
something.

I am in sales and when I met a lady, I actively listened and watched any girl
that I met with. I would use humor and fun to get her to drop her guard.
I would dump any girl that wouldn't agree to meet on Skype or other
messenger or for at least a hundred other reasons.

I believe this is a numbers game and that you have to go through a lot of
girls to find an absolute gem, which is what I wanted.

Udachi!

Bill