The Struggle For Ukraine

[olgac]

I just stopped buy to say I am really pissed off by Trump being again buddy-buddy with Putin. I had seen this coming and this is why I disliked Trump.

Sorry I have been absent from discussions have been dealing with my dad's lung cancer diagnosis

[krimster2]

bummer...about yur papa....
does he live in Reno? I wasn't too impressed with health care there
but it'd be a big hassle with insurance, etc moving him someplace else

i take it yur the only family he has
puts a heavy burden on you

4 years ago, I almost lost my wife
felt like my world ended
I got through it
yur "Russian" you are "stahlnaya"
you will come out the other side

you probably need to check out hospice care
does yur papa have friends there, any russians?
the only thing you can do, is be his daughter, and make him comfortable as possible and have something good for him to focus on

[olgac]

Thank You!
My dad lives in SF Bay area so pretty easy to visit.
He is now getting treatment at Standford Hospital and has very good oncologist and pulmonologist. Thank You!
Also lots of Russian friends in the area and Indian too, since my dad was a software engineer he likes Indians
the prognosis isn't very good but he is still undergoing treatment

[krimster2]

oh Stanford Hospital is the BEST ONE in the bay area!!!!
it sucks that they no longer have "computer literacy" book stores in the Bay Area, I spent so much time in there

but...
stanford has the "student book store" worth going to, to see a LOT of technical books in one place
parking is a big hassle
I used to park in the stanford shopping center and walk over, it's a short hike down El Camino Real to the University

if yur dad goes into hospice, there might be some local russians to help from chabad, if he's interested
I know how "touchy" that subject can be, especially for older soviet era russki ludie

how will you handle the distance issue?

[ML]

Won't Russians be sheeeeeting their pants if USA and Ukraine sign the mining deal ?

Worst case scenario for Russia then . . . USA says to Russia . . . Get the fock out of eastern Ukraine so we can mine, elsewise we will furnish Ukraine with all the long range weapons to take battle to Russian territory and destroy more of your capital assets.

[olgac]

if yur dad goes into hospice, there might be some local russians to help from chabad, if he's interested
I know how "touchy" that subject can be, especially for older soviet era russki ludie
how will you handle the distance issue?

Thank You so much!
My dad has always been very outgoing and has a lot of friends in the area.
re: distance issue I have been going there and staying in his house in SF Bay Area
but I had to go back for a while because my husband had Cataract surgeries.
My dad is still resistant to hiring caretakers
I am also a trust executor for him and have a power of attorney financial and medical.
My dad last few months has been also diagnosed with alzheimers and is for sure not himself

[krimster2]

Olga, for his own safety, yur father has no choice, especially if he lives alone
sucks for old people, and for you when they get combative

when it's my turn, the only thing I'm lookin forward to is the DRUGS!!!
i'd ask em to just drop the vials off, I got my own rig
the feeling of anticipating 10 mg of morphine
and then when it kicks in
yur eyes roll back in yur head, and you see what appears to be the devil laughing at you
it's the most BEAUTIFUL thing you've ever seen...and you're just so awestruck with wonder you can barely breathe

ML
"Won't Russians be sheeeeeting their pants if USA and Ukraine sign the mining deal ?"

Putin and Trump have talked for hours like high school sweethearts
you think Putin didn't give his approval?  of course, he did, so there's yur answer

the "minerals deal" is Trump's usual "media distraction"
they focus on this, which is meaningless, and ignore what's significant, Trump's betrayal of Ukraine and support of Putin

it's so PRECIOUS seeing you try to come up with some spin to make Trump "look good"
NO, Russians are dancing in the streets, cuz sanctions are gonna be overwith soon
and so will the "meat assaults" in Ukraine
go check out Russian TV on Utube and see for yurself, search only for content uploaded in the last 24 hrs
Trump just handed VICTORY to Putin, which is EXACTLY what Putin is gonna claim
HE WON

callin out across Russki Mir
it's changin to a brand new beat
summer's coming and there'll be
dancing
in the street

the'll be dancin in Novosibirsk
down in Volgagrad to

instead of a dumb question, a smart question to ask, if Trump and Putin have agreed to split Ukraine
can this same deal be extended to Iran, where it would be MUCH more lucrative
watch Iran....

you are yet another whiteboy, who needs to have a Jewish advisor to explain stuff to ya in a simplified way
otherwise ya'll run off and fixate on "crazy stuff"

just look at what ya'll have done to yur own country, now ya wanna phuque up Ukraine

I speak "redneck" with native proficiency
and I specialize in consulting with gentiles on anything and everything, I am a professional "fixer" like Ray Donovan

so if ya need "somethin"
like a "Russ Buster" I'm yur MALCHICK

WTF do you Anglo Saxons know about Russians?
"my people" have spent centuries outwitting slavs
not only do WE know Russians BETTER than you
we know Russians better than you can EVEN IMAGINE
my grandparents were Ukrainian Jews
and they learned about Russians "the hard way"
my learning began with them and took me all the way to work in Russia for Russian oligarchs where I made a pile of money
so...I know a thing or two....
i'm not "the usual bear"
Russians were "my oyster"
like Trump, all my money came from Russians
so many in my position fell out of windows or had accidents with firearms
it was close...
they ALMOST got me
was it luck that saved me, or something else
I will never know

a man's fate, is a man's fate
all of life is but a dream

[Trenchcoat]

What about UK/EU support for Ukraine? Neither are particularly fans of Trump and the EU in particular should have concerns about its border near Russia & Belarus. Russia is now running low on Armaments and it's economy up against it. Ukraine really only now probably needs a slow but steady supply of Armaments to stay in the game. To date Ukraine has been destroying new Russian Armaments at the front quicker than Russia can make them.

I just don't see that the EU are going to be happy or even willing to go along with the peace deal put forward by Trump & Putin. Neither I think will Ukraine, the peace deal is likely to propose a loss of land that Zelensky is likely to be against. For Zelensky also there are bad outcomes to signing a bad peace deal after a lot of Ukrainian lives lost and many who are now living in misery because of the war. I just see Trump/Putin not being able to jump the hurdle with their peace deal to anyone other than themselves.

[krimster2]

a rumor is out there, that the EU has offered to replace all of USA money with Euro money
the minerals treaty is NOT the truce
the truce STILL has to negotiated
but thanks to Europe, if the rumor's true, Zelensky has a MUCH stronger negotiating hand
cuz, thanks to Trump, it was severely weakened
supporting Putin, is why Putin pays Elon and Trump
among the many things they do, they tell lies for Putin, in exchange for ????(that's private and confidential, unlike yur social security and tax records that Elon's lookin at)

remember the leaked coversation from Mitt Romney, when he "joked" about Trump being on Putin's payroll
well...
that JOKE is on EVERY MAGA Voter

cuz Putin's interests and yurs are pretty much the opposite of each other
MAGA voters are like the scarecrow from "Wizard of Ozz" "If only I had a brain"

I freakin love them flyin Monkeys
cry "HAVOC" and let slip the monkeys of war

[Trenchcoat]

Apparently the EU looks like they are stepping up plans to fund Ukraine in the war further:

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-war-in-ukraine-military-aid-package-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy/

Looking like about £20bn at the moment plus yearly funding from the UK of £3bn etc. So good news I think. It's not as much as Ukraine has previously had but that money is probably still supplying Ukraine with Armaments. The slow down in supply of Russian Armaments will also help and I reckon that will probably be enough for Ukraine to last the year out and possibly into next year ax the war slows in pace.

Essentially, Ukraine just has to hold on in it's front line positions until Russia's economy crumbles and Russia has then no other choice but to give up it's war, no peace negotiation needed.

[krimster2]

once the media gets past "the BS minerals deal DISTRACTION" they'll focus on the terms of the treaty DICTATED by Putin/Trump/Musk
without Europe,  Putin/Trump/Musk were counting on Trump's abandonment of Ukraine leaving it no choice but to "give in" and negotiating the Truce would be EASY
now with Europe, it's NOT gonna be easy for Putin/Trump/Musk, although Ukraine will still feel the loss of US intelligence support

Russia's intenal economic situation is desperate
if the war's not over this year, and sanctions lifted. Russia's economy will be in a state of "emergency"
Putin is locked in a battle of "Mutually Assured Destruction" MAD
whom the gods would destory, they first make MAD

what a poker game
with Europe, NOW (this week's assesment, instead of last week's) Zelensky's hand is actually better than Putin's with Trump (so far)
Europe gives Ukraine $100 billion (assume this is true)
but Trump just gives Putin "his loyalty" which Putin has to purchase
a very unequal "deal"
and there will be NO restrictions on using this aid within Russia
if the EU is "stepping up" then Zelensky and Europe have outmaneuvered Trump/Musk/Putin

I don't think Trump's Tarriffs will dissuade the EU from Ukrainian support
by eliminating all Ukrainian aid, Trump has taken himself out of the war and that reduces his FUTURE negotiating power, becuz he has nothing left to TAKE from Zelensky
and Trump doesn't give anybody anything, he only takes
so Trump is actually rather useless at this point, unless next week, there's ANOTHER CHANGE in tactics

IMHO, let them fight
if europe and Ukraine fight Putin = then Trump is gonna be VERY UNHAPPY not being the center of attention...and watching Putin's bribes drifting away

Trump and Elon are lying as usual
they DO NOT care about ANYONE dying in Ukraine, or America either
they DO care what they can get from Putin for supporting him
they're opportunists and exploiters who take things others make and then they put their names on it
THEY didn't BUILD ANYTHING...others did
and it's WHY each of them has built a HUGE propaganda media empire to spread their lies about their greatness, that are gobbled up by non-critical, non-thinking people

Steve Bannon and Elon Musk giving Nazi salutes....
and ya'll still "can't figure out what's going on"
well then...if you can come in and work this Saturday, that would be great....


now Putin will want Trump to "lean" on europeans with tarriff threats for supporting Ukraine
this summer in America, you'll hear screaming and bull whips cracking on young folks protesting the King, like at Peterloo

then it will be my turn to offer myself as a sacrificial lamb to The Fox News Military Commander's anti-riot squad sans protection, so the media captures the blood
while Kash Patel's eyes will be twitching, cuz now he knows....

DON'T WORRY
BE HAPPY
even though "THE END IS NEAR" is becoming truer every day

well, my friends, good day to you all, and may God bless you
Krimster II, acting Bishop The Church of Chersonnese, ST Mary's of The Chorny Moira who liberated and brought Christianity to the Sea Monkeys in the Black Sea
Slava Moira Makacque

it looks like two weeks from now, Europe is gonna make the $100 billion "official"
Truce? what Truce?
Trump and Putin will be FURIOUS

the first practical commercial quantum computer will be made of glass
a century from now, there will be quantum computers you can wear on yur wrist and in yur brain pacemaker

one of the capabilities of quantum computers will be a limited form of 'time travel' making time run backwards with negative entropy

negative entropy and powder milk biscuits
pow-der milk pow-der milk


PS
my personal belief is we need a few more weeks (official $100 billion EU announcement) to see if there will even be a truce
Trump tried to throw the game to Putin, by cutting Ukraine's aid
but the EU may counter that

so Putin will not get Ukraine at a bargain thanks to Trump cutting off aid
because of the EU's $100 billion support
so he loses the advantage of a quick and dirty deal from a desperate Ukraine
in reality, Russia is just as desperate as Ukraine
Europe will force Putin to do something he doesn't want to do
negotiate in "good faith" instead of just taking everything
to Zelensky Trump is now a useless distraction and serves no purpose and can be completely ignored
and if Trump/Musk can't get things for Putin, then they're worthless to him as well

everyone will betray everyone
they are all men with no honor, just greedy pricks who after they phuqued everybody else, will phuque each other
if Zelensky, "Dr Z, to his friends, is a smart jew, he'll play Putin/Trump/Musk to divide them from each other
the way US media tried to get Trump to attack Musk

I would SO MUCH like to be working for Dr Z pro bono, as a "strategos"
but he never calls...
Dr Z, i'm also REALLY GOOD at knowing how to phuque things up in Russia "BIG TIME"...in case ya didn't know

paka for now

[krimster2]

a photo and headlines you will NEVER SEE in US media from the UK

"Now That's a Leader - Zelensky Puts Trump to Shame"

in the USA, if yur a celebrity, you can get away with "some stuff"
like Jane Fonda raising her fist, and saying, "Being Woke is about caring for OTHER PEOPLE"  such radical ideas....
but NOBODYS like me, have to struggle with censorship in the USA over fear of antagonizing fascists, that management doesn't approve of

just like the Ukrainian people fighting Russian oligarchs
the American people are gonna fight to
and I hope to join them when they do

I feel it...slowly coming...you'll see more signs of this a month from now, cuz it's BUILDING
IT'S OUR MAIDAN!!!
IT'S COMING!!!!

PS I am not at all upset by "hanoi Jane"
she had the right idea, but becuz she was young, she just did it the wrong way
"phuque the army" was classic, everyone I knew in uniform wrote this on their hand at one time or another, INCLUDING ME!

fas-cism comes and fas-cism goes
Daylight come and me wan' go home

it's ever so much back in fashion now
soon there will be Trump uniforms

I hope Trump doesn't find his Leni Riefenstahl
cuz right now American Fascism is pretty dumb lookin - country bumpkin CPAC Hillbilly fascism (they know how to appeal to their demographic)
what it needs is Nuremberg's white Franken Stadium against a dark night sky with searchlights with ranks of party memebers facing the GREAT LEADER
black uniforms with silver skulls all saluting Trump like Musk and Bannon, ALL FAIL TRUMP!!!!
Germans knew WTF they were doin
Hitler began as an Artist
and understood how to make a picture he could sell on the strasse for 20 Marks
that's all the skill he needed to sell his vision to the masses
becuz masses of people are stoopid and gullible
and are more receptive to images than words


PS Uno
it's essential to Trump that he is to be the CENTER of negotiation for Putin, so he has to project his "importance"...even though now he is becoming irrelevant
so if and when the war ends, Trump can take the credit, this is ALL he cares about

"President Donald Trump's press secretary Karoline Leavitt recently announced that the president is "very confident" that he may soon bring an end to the Russia-Ukraine conflict."

stratfied layers of BS that are all bout Trump


PS deux
The current value of Ukraine’s strategic metal and mineral exports from existing production was lss than $100mn in 2024
there aren't $trillions like Trump's claiming
and that $100 million, doesn't include extraction costs, the profits are really small
Trump wants half of that to go into his New York registered corporation for his sons

why does Trump want this New York Corp minerals deal?
because he just legalized foreign bribery
so it'll be TOTALLY legal to drop cash on Trump's sons in Ukraine (but not legal in America)
also, Odessa is part of the deal
you control Odessa, you control Ukraine's transport/imports/exports
perfect place for corruption to pay Trumps, and is perfectly legal NOW

sheet...my father sold me to Israelis, cuz I was a "trouble maker" and all around "pain in the ass" and my family was glad to be rid of me
and like Herod, it's still better to be a cat in my family than it is to be a human
the cats at least will care about ya, cuz ya feed 'em
humans...not so much....
all the world...will betray thee
you will die ALONE and UNKNOWN
ignored by yur own "flesh and blood"

and this is what reminds me that nothing really matters
out of student loans, or treehouse homes, I always picked the latter
my name's "Blurry Face" and I...care what you think,
cuz I live...in a yellow submarine AH-HAH!
we all live in a fascist dick-tater-ship
a fascist dick-tater-ship
a fascist dick-tater-ship
yee-haw!!!

PS tois
once more, thanks to the UK

http://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-video-trump-kissing-elon-973979

whoever did this...thank you

[krimster2]

when a Ukrainian cartoon makes more sense than anything you see on American media about the "TRUCE"

http://x.com/i/status/1893725294227316794

Trump/Musk now has Brownshirts going to townhalls to harass and detain people
Weimar is "so over", now it's the Thousand Hour Reich

[olgac]

when a Ukrainian cartoon makes more sense than anything you see on American media about the "TRUCE"

http://x.com/i/status/1893725294227316794

Yes a very good summary

[krimster2]

the Trump cult, is another Jim Jones suicide Cult
and in America
your town will be Jonestown
MAGA republicans "love America"
they just hate Americans 'not like them'
and that's what's led them to "all fail Trump"
to them, he's "The Great White Hope"
but in reality he's "The Great White Dope"

every Trump win ends in a fail
his whole plan is to GRIFT and LIE
and the DOPE ya'll sold yur soul to, doesn't give a phuque about you

you wanted some Trump to make ya high
but you OD'd and now yur gonna die

RIP

Trump Steaks, Trump Rump
Mar a Lago Trump Dump

A recent UN resolution condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine was itself condemned by just 3 nations
1. North Korea
2. Russia
3. United States

under Trump, the USA is now a rogue state, becuz Trump is Putin's Partner in Crime, thief-in-law, he IS and always WAS this
which the US media ignores, to gush about the BS Minerals Deal
completely ignoring what's important
to focus on the distraction
just like Trump planned on

the biggest problem with oligarchy is that it’s an extremely unstable form of government Average people, realizing they’re being robbed blind, rise up and demand change, sometimes causing oligarchy to flip back to democracy (as happened here in the 1930s in the USA with New Deal Democrats after the oligarchy crashed the economy)
ya'll really need to read Steinbecks's "Grapes of Wrath"
the hollywood film, starring Henry Fonda was brilliant, his role was very effective
no one would make that movie today, cuz the oligarchs who own the media HATE socialism, becuz it's a threat to THEIR ownership of America

the backlash from "average people"  is a-comin round the mountain
it's like a giant wave
it starts as a ripple
and grows


once more the UK spells it out for the Yanks

http://x.com/i/status/1893824175082483842


what the American people do "about Trump" in the next 2 years will determine the fate of the country for generations to come
in war
it's not about who's right
its about who's left

In every part of the government that involves the use of force — the military, the investigation and prosecution of crimes, the authority to arrest, the capacity to hold individuals in jail — Trump is putting into power people who are more loyal to him than they are to the United States.

He has purged (or is in the process of purging) at the highest levels of the Department of Defense, the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, the Inspectors General, and the FBI, anyone who is not personally loyal to him.

Trump is rapidly gaining a personal monopoly on the use of force. This is his most fundamental goal. This is the essence of tyranny.

On Friday, he fired Air Force General CQ Brown Jr. as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff — the nation’s highest-ranking military officer, as well as the principal military adviser to the president, secretary of defense, and National Security Council.

Trump will use the military to stop the people from dissenting just like Putin
he already has brownshirts

I know what yur thinkin....
"oh yeah, whaddabout Hillary's emails"
you know - the ones Russian hackers stole, and that Oleg Deripaska bribed the FBI to release a "public report about a bogus FBI  investigation" right before the election
aka "The Russian Hoax"

lies are truth
war is peace
Orwell told the future, but MAGA voters are illiterate and don't read very much

Trump, rather than being a brilliant politician or businessman, is actually the world's most successful conmen — and our media’s greatest failure is to acknowledge or even tangentially reference this fact.

an old saying, "you can't cheat an honest man"
Trump cheated EVERY MAGA voter, so what does that tell you?
that they're dishonest to

If you recognize that Trump is all about accruing power and money at others’ expense, then you also can see that he will inevitably let down those who counted on him to make their lives better.
In reality —  and in stark contrast to Joe Biden’s strongly pro-worker agenda — Trump’s actions will hurt ordinary Americans. The downtrodden will be even more trodden upon.
and once they realize this - they'll stand up, but then they'll be confronted by brown shirts and storm troopers
and this is the next stage that's coming

Ultimately this will come down to our own courage and resolve: To engage in peaceful civil disobedience. To organize and mobilize others. To fight against hate and bigotry. To fight for justice and democracy.

Remember this: Tyranny cannot prevail over people who refuse to succumb to it.


PS
also WHY does China release a new virus, EVERYTIME Trump is president
now we have JFK JR as a vaccine czar? yur kiddin me!!!

[krimster2]

Trump is now COMPLETELY outmaneuvered by Europe, as far as the "Peace Process" is concerned
his sell-out to Putin
IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN AFTER ALL!!!!
Trump just lost a seat at the negotiating table, because of his CON
NOW HTF is he gonna get Putin to PAY HIM?
oi 'tis a fine mess he's in me lads, cuz he didn't think of one leetle detail


http://www.politico.eu/article/critical-minerals-rare-earths-deal-eu-not-donald-trump/

PS
Europe will release the balance of frozen russian assets to Ukraine, NOW
and just THAT will be enuff to keep Ukraine resisting Putin for 1-2 years
enough to collapse Russia's economy

not one of Russia's treaty stipulations are acceptable
Ukraine has no choice, but to fight
because if it SURRENDERS it will be destroyed, and Trump will let it happen, to get the Putin Bonus check

what happens though, if Trump cancels sanctions ANYWAY, just for Trump money
bummer about Don Jr and Barron Trump not getting gigs in Ukraine, as overlords of the Ukrainian people
that they so RICHLY earned

half of Russia's Ammo comes from North Korea
likely arrives in Vladivostok and is stored in warehouses
hope there aren't any accidents

talk to fisherman in the caspian about boats coming from Iran with drones
same deal
this can all be done with pretty small teams

allow me to refer you to "The Cockleshell Heroes"
legendary British SOS commandos who challenged the german merchant fleet in France guarded by the SS
with kayaks and limpet mines
and they WON!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cockleshell_Heroes

[ML]

Apparently Trump could not beat the Jew boy.

He should have sent Jared to negotiate.

[krimster2]

jared is a "weenie" my nickname for him is "the poodle"
he's a joke
wearing an Armani suit to a combat zone in Iraq in 2017 with a vest over it, while every other person is in fatigues, even reporters
shows how out of touch he is, and that his background really isn't quite suitable for this (plus made him an identifiable target)
it's easy to be a billionaire when yur father is one
this is what Trump thinks a meritocracy is, a billionaire who inherited his wealth like him

Trump took himself out of the picture, when he miscalculated europe
only one jew that I know of, could bring back something after "it died"
and I doubt he'd want ANYTHING to do with Trump
especially, after the Chinese Bible scam
and crypto currency, he was REALLY AGAINST money scams, like the temple Shekel one

[ML]

Oooooooops

Editor's note: The story has been updated with a statement from European Commission spokesperson Thomas Regnier, in which he denied that there is a separate EU proposal for Ukraine on rare earths.

European Commission spokesperson Thomas Regnier denied on Feb. 25 that the EU had allegedly offered Ukraine its own deal on minerals.

"There is no proposal," Regnier said, adding that since 2021, the EU has had a partnership on critical raw materials with Ukraine, formalized through the Memorandum of Understanding.

The day prior, AFP reported that the EU has offered Ukraine its own deal on the country's natural resources, describing it as "mutually beneficial" and a "win-win partnership."

The European Commissioner for industrial strategy, Stephane Sejourne allegedly said he'd offered Kyiv an alternative to that proposed by the U.S. while on a visit to Ukraine to mark the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion.

Regnier confirmed that during his visit to Kyiv, Sejourne met with his Ukrainian counterparts. According to Regnier, Sejourne "reaffirmed the EU's commitment to implement the Memorandum of Understanding," but did not present any new proposals.

[krimster2]

what you wrote is NOT TRUE
Europe's proposal on minerals was made yesterday
it's a 'proposal'
not a signed deal
and it's separate from supporting ukraine, and there is NO quid-pro-quo
europe will give a much better deal to Ukraine than miserly Trump
Trump is now completely irelevant to the war in Ukraine
he's not gonna get attention, he's not gonna get money from Putin for solving his ukrainian problem
so he's gonna walk away from it soon
and tell the media to stop talking about Ukraine
cuz he can't get anything from it now, after he phuqed it up

now he can focus on phuqueing up America

[ML]

Editor's note: This is a developing story.

Ukraine has reached an agreement with the U.S. on a minerals deal, Olha Stefanishyna, Ukraine’s deputy prime minister and justice minister, told the Financial Times on Feb. 25.

President Volodymyr Zelensky's office confirmed to the Kyiv Independent that an agreement has been reached.

The Financial Times reported that Ukraine has secured more favorable terms during the negotiations and is framing the deal as a way to strengthen ties with the U.S. Ukraine's Cabinet of Ministers is expected to recommend on Feb. 26 that the deal be signed, sources familiar with the discussions told Bloomberg.

Zelensky will likely head to Washington for a signing ceremony in the coming weeks, according to the Financial Times. The signing could come as early as Feb. 28, a senior Ukrainian official reportedly told AFP.

The final version of the agreement, dated Feb. 24, establishes a fund to which Ukraine will contribute 50% of proceeds from the "future monetization" of state-owned mineral resources, including oil, gas, and related logistics. The fund will invest in projects within Ukraine.

The deal excludes resources that already contribute to Ukraine's state budget, meaning it will not cover operations by Naftogaz and Ukrnafta, the country's largest oil and gas producers.

The agreement does not include security guarantees from the U.S., which Kyiv had initially insisted on.

The latest draft of the agreement drops earlier U.S. demands for a $500 billion claim over Ukraine’s natural resources, which had been a major sticking point, according to the Ukrainian media outlet Economic Pravda, which has seen the agreement.

Under the revised terms, the fund will receive 50% of revenues from Ukraine’s resource-related infrastructure, including ports. Joint ownership will be determined based on actual financial contributions, and while management will be shared, the U.S. will have decision-making authority under its own laws.

The questions of the U.S. stake in the fund and the terms of “joint ownership” will be addressed in follow-up agreements, according to the Financial Times.

Zelensky had previously rejected the U.S. proposal, citing the lack of security guarantees and objecting to the 1:2 repayment structure, which would have required Ukraine to return two dollars for every one received in aid.

The Trump administration has increased pressure on Ukraine to finalize the deal in the past weeks, with Trump publicly attacking Zelensky, calling him a "dictator without elections" and urging him to "move fast, or he won’t have a country left."

Trump has framed the agreement as a way to strengthen Ukraine’s economy while ensuring the U.S. "recoups the tens of billions of dollars and military equipment sent to Ukraine."

[ML]

what you wrote is NOT TRUE

I didn't wrote (write) anything.
I only copy and paste from news stories.

[ML]

The final version of the agreement, dated Feb. 24, establishes a fund to which Ukraine will contribute 50% of proceeds from the "future monetization" of state-owned mineral resources, including oil, gas, and related logistics. The fund will invest in projects within Ukraine.

WTF does this mean ???

[ML]

From ChatGPT

As of February 2025, the United States has provided approximately $183 billion in aid to Ukraine since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022. This assistance encompasses military support, economic aid, and humanitarian efforts.

Breakdown of U.S. Aid to Ukraine:

Military Assistance: Around $65.9 billion has been allocated for military support, supplying Ukraine with advanced weaponry, ammunition, and training.

Economic and Humanitarian Aid: The remaining funds have been directed towards economic stabilization, infrastructure rebuilding, and humanitarian relief efforts to address the needs of displaced populations and war-affected communities.

Additionally, a portion of the allocated funds supports U.S. military operations and bolstering defenses in Europe related to the conflict.

WTF . . . Someone is counting money we use to help defend western Europe as money for Ukraine !!!!

[krimster2]

Trump's PEACE PLAN just assumed Ukraine would surrender when he cut off their weapons and took their money, their minerals and their main port,  and Putin could take his share of Ukraine
and Trump will get $$$ from Putin to 
THAT IS TRUMP'S PEACE PLAN, that after "stealing Ukraine blind" they'd have no choice but to surrender
and Trump would get The Nobel Peace Prize, a huge fortune from Putin, and a 'bizness' for Barron Trump, who will be a Ukrainian Barron

for Trump, it's a WIN WIN
for everbody else...a "lose"
which is what happens when ya do business with Trump
ask people who were conned by Trump Universirty or BayRock Realty, remember Felix Sater http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sater
or the cancer charity for kids that the Trumps stole from in new york, and as a result aren't allowed to run a charity in New York any more
you can NEVER trust Trump even about kids dying from cancer, without him scamming them
Ukraine...hahaha

a New York State registered Corp as a hedge fund to ONLY develop new projects in Ukraine
NOTHING at all to do with the war, has no bearing on it at all
I'm assuming the "logistics" is about taking control of Odessa
and that's gonna be quite lucrative for Barron Trump, who is undoubtedly a 19 yr old business genuis just like his father doncha know
Zelensky signs this deal, as part of the "you can only flatter Trump when you talk to him" mantra
later, when Trump is out of power, he can rip up the treaty
and he can always block the hedge fund from "doing stuff" with red tape
and these "projects" whatever they be, all take years....


Trump's handling the Ukrainian negotiations almost as well as he handled Covid
it's ALWAYS all about Trump

and you all WILL NEVER LEARN
you are incapable for seeing Trump for what he actually is, a lying conman
because he sometimes says lies you believe and agree with
Trump NEEDS to have wins, especially with $$$, cuz he's gonna cut Elon's taxes later this year
and that'll be part of selling it on Fox

but his plan for Ukraine is gonna work as well as his Jan 6 plan worked
after a few months...Trump will talk less and less about Ukraine
all his other campaign promises are just as much BS as ending the war "in a day"
how absurd is that claim now
eggs are $6 a dozen
Trump's tarriffs are inflationary for the poor and middle class
Trump and the oligarchs don't care
becuz tarriffs are gonna be used to offset their taxes

does ANYONE think we're gonna be better off 4 years from now, cuz of Trump?
NO? then why the hell did you vote for him?
was it really so important screwing over marginalized people that you had to screw yurself over as well?

later...yur gonna see that there is a reson for Trump's madness that YOU have NO IDEA about...
becuase as Trump does in Ukraine, he's gonna do in America
by letting oligarchs privitize the American government to themselves
and sell services to "tax payers"
and if ya don't pay, yur not served...
all whp pay, shall be marked by trump

you've all been told about this, warned about it SO MANY TIMES
yet when it actually comes...yur surprised and schocked

mexicans and trans people aren't the ones phuqueing up America
it's the oligarchs like the ones who caused ALL the financial debacles in the USA
just like in Russia
just like I told ya home boy

and just like Karl Marx told ya almost 2 centuries ago
the fact that Marx is such an icon, should tell ya 'something' about him
if I was a slave, i'd ask myself "why massa no want me to read"
and i'd teach myself
and that would be the first step to breaking the chains

PS
http://www.the-sun.com/news/13627483/trump-us-gold-cards-immigration/

Trump is gonna sell Gold Cards to Putin's Russian oligarchs, the ones who support Puti's war, cuz it's THEIR war to, they are the VICTORS to whom the spoils will ALL belong to
except for the portion that goes to Trump

thanks once more to UK journalists who still do jornalism

all the misery of the poor,  created by poverty is what primarily creates crime
and this misery is caused by plutocrats
as documented by Dickens as well as Marx

you wanna blame workers for stealin bread
and not the mill owners who shorten their wages

two centuries ago, whole families worked 80 hour weeks in the mills in Rochdale, near Birmingham
children routinely died from work related injuries, there was NO health care for workers
the whole family lived in a single room the mill owned
and they were paid in a couple of tokens per week tokens only redeemable at the mill store for goods sold at inflated prices

this is the exploitive world the oligarchs want us to return to
and it's WHAT you voted for
to "stick it" to queer trannys

and it's WHY I call you "mean names" and hurt yur fee fees
but I don't DO THIS out of anger
no...I do it out of love
as the "good book" sez, The Lord chastiseth whom he loveth"
and that which is "Done Out of Love"
is "Beyond Good or Evil" according to 'ole Fred Nietzsche, who was the original author of "Superman"

were you never told to love they enemy equally
are not yur enemies just those who are different from you, yet are not opposed to you, nor do they oppress you
so why must you oppress them?
why not live, and let live

why did you need to empower America's Hitler...eh...why?

America's "Culture war" is ALL FAKE
so you ignore the 'real struggle'
which is ALWAYS between the RICH and POOR
and THE ONLY REASON you don't know this
is because you are deliberately kept in ignorance of it by the rich
cuz they control how yur educated and programmed

PS
for the angel said, "should any man worship the beast, he shall suffer the wrath of god"

as an atheist, I gotta tell ya, I do none the less, give credence to biblical prophecy
for reasons not related to religion

kinda like the way, Mario Puzo's "God Father" gives credence and understanding to the mafiya
fiction and myths often reflect reality



the semantic similarity between Hitler and Trump



it rhymes

latinos and LGBQT+ are the Joos

the oppressed are also yur brothers
but you are not yur brother's keeper
and you help not the poor, the sick nor welcome the stranger among you
yet...you claim to be godly men

but you lie...just like Trump

PS
The evil menace of Jews....
in 1939 Jews made up 1% of Germany's population
Jews were only "emancipated", i.e. allowed civil rights to property and education in the mid 19th century Germany
yet a few generations later, they dominated finance, and science in Germany and every other thing that required education and intelligence
and rather than use that resource to Germany's advantage, Imagine if the Jews gave the bomb to hitler
or Hitler added the equivalent of the Israeli army to his own
instead Hitler destroyed it
and all the things that Hiler destroyed, directly led to his own destruction on April 30, 1945
but he took miliions and millions of Germans with him

you Trump voters need to reflect on this a wee bit, doncha think?
if Trump leads ya'll to hell
ya'll gonna be the ones suffering and NOT Trump


look who is back in fashion
the future is now retro 1930s
hitler and trump share the same charisma